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00:00:00people of the uk and ireland if you are coming to see me on tour this october i want to hear from
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00:00:23your life chriswilliamson.live slash stories i'm seeing pouches everywhere what's your opinion on
00:00:29nicotine in pouches same look i consume caffeine every day i love caffeine nicotine is sort of
00:00:34similar although caffeine is safer obviously it can even improve health nicotine will definitely
00:00:42make you feel alert and calm unlike other stimulants which is a very unique state that's great for
00:00:47learning right sets you up for learning doesn't let you learn but it so excuse me doesn't make you
00:00:52learn but it lets you learn raises blood pressure highly addictive and and here's the thing people
00:00:59don't realize if you take three to six milligram pouches multiple times per day it's not going to
00:01:05have a cognitive enhancing effect it's just rescuing the deficit from nicotine withdrawal like if you
00:01:11don't drink caffeine for two days you're not going to feel good you drink caffeine you'll feel good
00:01:17it's bringing you back to baseline okay so if you want nicotine to be a performance aid you use
00:01:23it occasionally meaning you know three to six milligrams once or twice total
00:01:29twice per week maximum yeah but how many people do you know that did not develop a dependency
00:01:35or just not do it very often and then it does something i mean this is how i feel about a lot of
00:01:40energy drinks i love them but i'll take them when i really want to dial in really want to like
00:01:44i i slept last night but not quite as much as i would have liked i'm a time shifted and so on
00:01:48um so this morning i drank one of yours and one of uh derek's yep um that's a lot the old twin turbo
00:01:55yeah yeah very good the twin turbo and and that's a lot but you know i thought we had a pretty good
00:01:59workout yeah you performed well well the previous uh mode of delivery was smoking and then we moved on
00:02:05to vaping pretty quickly and vaping became massive like talk about the history of this humans have found
00:02:09a way to get their nicotine smoking causes cancer okay not good dipping snuffing and not good cancers
00:02:18okay oral nicotine oh vaping turns out it's not good for us really not good the chemicals associated
00:02:24with it probably a bit safer than smoking but this is really wild the behavioral data say because you can
00:02:31do it anywhere pretty much people are doing far more of it they're taking in far more nicotine and
00:02:36they're coming now having issues lung issues and issues related to nicotine so smoking was less
00:02:41healthy and maybe more dangerous per puff but because the number of puffs that you're consuming
00:02:46from vaping because you can do it in more places and it's more tasty and there's less fatigue from
00:02:50it yeah means that maybe the healthier delivery mechanism of vaping versus smoking is more than
00:02:56offset to the point where it's more dangerous right wow in the same way that you know cannabis you don't
00:03:01say it's good or bad yes it nukes rem sleep but that's very very bad um it can cause psychosis and
00:03:08certain males have a predisposition of psychosis but you'd say um smoking cannabis people are able to
00:03:15put themselves into a plane of high that is not freaking them out they can take one toke i did bong you
00:03:23know when i was in college everyone just like did bong reps i was like you know and then but you knew
00:03:28if you could do half a one or one or you you wouldn't go like four and then wait and see what happens
00:03:34um some people did that that didn't work out so well but with an edible the problem is people can
00:03:38ingest you know 100 150 milligrams of thc like that and then they're freaking out in some cases it can
00:03:43trigger a psychotic episode that lasts a long time or doesn't reverse and so it's the ease of ingestion so
00:03:48that's the vaping thing the the oral nicotines but they're here to stay humans have since the
00:03:55discovery of nicotine have found a way to get their nicotine same with caffeine they've just
00:03:59found a way to they're not going to quit but a lot of young people using nicotine they should just be
00:04:04aware of how addictive it is and the fact that raises blood pressure and i think that you know
00:04:09usually you can scare guys out of it a little bit by just saying oh it's vasoconstriction and you
00:04:13know that can have some sexual side effects but nowadays people are using pharmacology to combat
00:04:18pharmacology you know and thanks to mike eisenberg and other people you know like i've said you know
00:04:23the the low dose tadalafil for um for prostate health but then people go well if you take a little
00:04:28bit more than it then it's a you know it's like a sex drug and like that kind of thing it's you know
00:04:33anyway that it was developed as a prostate drug but it's a vasodilator does it does that combat the
00:04:38vasoconstriction of nicotine yeah in theory uh but you now you're you're doing like sort of a push pull
00:04:46bad language you're now doing a push pull between you know one one set of effects and another set of
00:04:52effects and you know i i would say this is just by observation um you know people in their teens
00:04:59twenties thirties even early forties you really want to get away with it using as little pharmacology as
00:05:05necessary this is why right for you know during my manopause monk mode era i did a thousand what
00:05:10that manopause monk i went monk mode which is you were in manopause yeah that's too young from
00:05:14manopause manopause no manopause is end of twenties listen uh i go i told you gotta return to that
00:05:20manopause is manopause manopause your androgens dropped at the end of your twenties it's a colloquial
00:05:27bro science term that i use to describe when guys stop behaving the way that they did in their adult
00:05:32infant i have so many thoughts about that hat and none of them good please take that off
00:05:37um so uh a lot of the time like when i when i was doing my period of personal development becoming a
00:05:44proper human i did a thousand days without alcohol and 500 days without caffeine because i wanted to
00:05:49prove to myself i don't need to use any of these things i don't need to buttress my life with this i
00:05:54wanted to have that in the back of my mind if there was ever a period because i knew for the rest of my
00:05:58life that was going to be like around parties i was going to be around like caffeine that's like my
00:06:02thing right and now i have a company that does it something that's kind of interesting so we've
00:06:06been doing these which are these pouches and those i think by the end of next year we could do more
00:06:11volume in pouches more revenue in pouches than in cans because of how many people want to dial back
00:06:17their nicotine so many people feel like i'm not in control of my nicotine usage and the delivery
00:06:24mechanism has been locked in and and these are and it's easy to take and and we'll talk about the
00:06:28canister by the way if you write a 600 page book uh what happens is you stare at things up close
00:06:34your eyeball lengthens and you become myopic you've worsened your eyesight because you wrote the book
00:06:39you literally literally damaged your own but at the end of this year right after this book promotion
00:06:43tour is done i'm going to spend a lot of time staring at horizons and hiking in the mountains and um
00:06:50and i might even go hunting this year so yeah that's why i'm wearing these i mean look at it
00:06:53this is crazy this prescription you tried to you made me put them on yeah you're blind they're like
00:06:57bottle glasses um so yeah when you stare at things too close you become nearsighted so kids adults be
00:07:05careful don't get some long view vision each day my vision at a distance is great but up close is lousy
00:07:10so the other thing about this that um and these canisters is it's interesting you know that um i'm not
00:07:16trying to diverge topics here but you know like we'll get to peptides i'm sure but you know the
00:07:20pens that the glps use that pen with needle you know has basically gotten people over their needle
00:07:26phobia it turns out it was the plunger people were afraid of i don't like needles do i have to inject
00:07:29myself turns out if you put the needle at the end of something it looks like a pen everyone's pinning
00:07:33themselves men women people are just pinning themselves um these canisters are interesting because
00:07:40they have like a tactile fields a little bit like like chips at the casino but when i was a kid um
00:07:46there was a uh jerky do you remember this there was a beef jerky that came in a canister that looked
00:07:52like tobacco and kids oh this stuff was was horrible you would take a pinch of beef jerky and you put it
00:07:59in your lip we were like nine years old ten years old and then you'd eat the beef jerky eventually just
00:08:04cosplaying as your dad kids uh my dad didn't chew he did occasionally smoke a cigar pipe my grandfather
00:08:09smoked a pipe but yeah yeah so it was like you would so we were like little kids we were little kids
00:08:15walking around lipping beef jerky beef not licking lipping beef jerky yeah and so and it was they
00:08:22clearly figured out that like candy cigarettes and you know and and so there is something about the
00:08:27pout the cancer there it is jerky stuff no no it's called jerky stuff that looks so gross oh my god
00:08:34it looks like uh the fluff that you find in your pocket it's called jerky stuff
00:08:39look at this ready there you go jerky stuff and you would you stuff your cheek or you'd stuff your
00:08:45your lip wow yeah this was a thing yeah so it was it was kind of like jerky flavored sawdust it was
00:08:52and also barely any it was probably like four grams of protein in the entire and you would pay more for
00:08:58it and it was because it was you know a good way to take in something so these canisters are also very
00:09:03reinforced yeah it's really tactile it's nice and also like you know it's your back pocket guys love
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