00:00:00What are the important things that you think people should do at the start of a relationship to set it up for success?
00:00:05I mean my answer to almost everything is just talking. I just think I think the more that you
00:00:11can talk about
00:00:14I think when you can talk about how you're talking about things, I think that when you can
00:00:20Like almost have a meta commentary happening of like this is so weird, isn't it? It's scary
00:00:26Oh, isn't this interesting what we're doing right now?
00:00:28Like really being able to talk about it almost in a detached fashion and narrative fashion
00:00:33I think there's a lot of value in that. I think there's a lot of value in
00:00:37In talking about
00:00:41Like formative experiences that this person has had and I think there are a lot of fun games that can be played around that
00:00:48You know, there was an article some years ago
00:00:50I forget who authored it, but it was about like 30 questions that can make two people fall in love
00:00:56Yeah, and it gets progressively more intense. Yes. So many of them are in the questions at Chris will x.com slash Valentine's
00:01:02There you go. So I would say that those kinds of entry points. There's a lot there's a
00:01:06Card game now called tails, which is very interesting
00:01:10Steve from diary of CEO has a great, you know, the diary of CEO questions
00:01:15Like there's a lot of really great like supplemental tools
00:01:19That is a fun game like that game of like you're a mystery to me. I'm a mystery to you in some ways
00:01:25We've just started this relationship. We know we like the look of each other. We know we like some things about each other
00:01:31There's an energy and electricity between us. So let's start playing in the world of ideas a little bit. Let's start playing in
00:01:37progressively showing because look what is what is dating but progressively showing more of yourself to another person and what is
00:01:46What have we lost in sort of hookup culture?
00:01:49we've lost that progressive revelation that teasing that sort of playing of like I'm going to show you a little and then I'll show you a
00:01:56Little more and I'm gonna give you a little and then I'll give you a little more and there's this feeling
00:02:00Okay
00:02:00and I'm gonna I'm gonna earn a little and then I'm gonna earn a little more and I'll be
00:02:04rewarded for my efforts by a little bit of sweetness from you and they'll that that's a fun dance that people have been doing for a
00:02:11Really long time and we gave it up in exchange for I'm not sure what we got out of that
00:02:16Roy Baumeister says courtship is the period during which a woman works out if she can do better
00:02:21Yeah
00:02:23But it also sparks something in men that I think we like something that drive the challenge and drive
00:02:32That drive to win and I feel and I feel like you know, we've couched that now as like a toxic masculinity
00:02:40But I don't know. I feel like go fuck yourself, dude, and I can tell you to go fuck yourself neurologically as well
00:02:46The way that men bond is using something called vasopressin. We heard about this. Yeah, okay
00:02:52So here is a thing that I'm trying to achieve. This is why
00:02:55Good boy points in the bedroom when cleaning the kitchen when picking the kids up when dressing nicely
00:03:03When telling him that he needs to shave on a weekend, so he doesn't scratch your face
00:03:07Good boy points will drive a man to do obscene things, especially from a beautiful charming
00:03:14Dealing woman that he's attached to listen. I've trained Brazilian jiu-jitsu for 20 years
00:03:18You think I like having sweaty balls in my face?
00:03:20No, but it's I get tapped 15 times, but I tap a guy once and it's enough for me to go
00:03:26All right
00:03:26I'm getting somewhere only that but when they would think about how much more it is when coach comes past who's got three stripes on
00:03:31His belt rose. Right? Yeah, guys, right. Oh my god
00:03:35Built a law firm and represented some of the wealthiest people in the world when I got my brown belt
00:03:41it was the most exciting I was the proudest accomplishment of my life the amount of hours and
00:03:47Injuries that it took to get there 15 years worth of training to get there
00:03:52So to me, there's something about that that fight that prize that hunt
00:03:56So, you know that old-school idea and by the way women loved
00:04:00loved when there was this courtship piece and there was all of that and again men loved being held a little bit to a
00:04:07Standard and having a sense of and by the way, it solves this body count issue that everyone's so caught up in
00:04:12Because it turns into something that no no there has to be some gatekeeping and there has to be some sense of earning something
00:04:19So I think there's tremendous value in that and I think that if we were early in
00:04:24relationships to start really like progressively showing the other more both physically and
00:04:31Emotionally, right and having maybe even that path coming up at the same time
00:04:37Like as I'm seeing more of you
00:04:39Like if I've seen you with your panties off and I don't know how many siblings you have
00:04:45We're doing things out of order as far as I'm concerned. There's a fascinating series. So Roy Baumeister is
00:04:51Now on sub stack and is just so fascinating. He's writing a series on
00:04:55Sexual novelty at the moment. He's basically advocating that specifically for men women need a different treatment
00:05:01Maybe he'll give that at some point in future specifically for men. You need to titrate the dose of sexual novelty
00:05:06Yeah over as long of a duration as possible and this is good for the men, too
00:05:10It's the same as not letting the kids have ice cream every night
00:05:13This is from his last book which came out about five years ago. Men will do what women demand of them in order to get laid
00:05:18Yep, women set the standards for sex and men meet them. Although this may be considered an unflattering characterization
00:05:24We have found no evidence to contradict the basic general principle that men will do whatever is required in order to obtain sex and perhaps
00:05:30Not a great deal more one of us characterized this in previous work as if women would stop sleeping with jokes
00:05:37Men would stop being jokes
00:05:38Yeah
00:05:39If in order to obtain sex men must become pillars of the community or lie or a mass riches by fair means or foul or be
00:05:46Romantic or funny then men will do precisely that similarly if men need to be broken flaky non-committal and inconsistent
00:05:53Then they will meet these standards appropriately women's make choices modern romance culture and girl magazines are not at fault for emotionally unavailable
00:06:00Behavior in men, but they are not totally unrelated to it either
00:06:05You know, I could not possibly agree with anything more that approach would probably be very bad for my business model
00:06:12And the truth is I'm not a psychologist. I'm not a therapist. I'm not a researcher. I have
00:06:17Facilitated the demise of thousands of unhappy marriages people lie to their therapists people lie on surveys people lie in studies
00:06:26They don't lie to their divorce lawyer
00:06:28They don't because there's no reason to you have attorney-client privilege attached and I have to really know everything to do
00:06:33On that surely people want to put themselves across in the best light
00:06:36Well, they lie to themselves and then they lie to me because they're lying to themselves
00:06:41But because I see so much
00:06:43Data on this person. I see their credit card receipts their text messages
00:06:48Like I I really go in there on people like you have to if someone's going through custody litigation or an ugly contested divorce
00:06:55you get to see everything really and so
00:06:58having now listened to
00:07:01thousands of people men and women the abuser and the abuse to the substance use disorder and the person married to the person with substance use
00:07:08Disorder I've seen I've argued every side of every issue in a divorce
00:07:12I've spent time with you know, perpetrators domestic violence and victims domestic violence
00:07:17I've spent time with every possible permutation and I will tell you
00:07:21If only there were good and bad people in the world like, you know
00:07:25If only we could just find the evil people in segregation through the heart of every month, right?
00:07:29Through the solzhenitsyn through the heart of every man is the line of good and evil
00:07:32And so I genuinely believe that if we were to say look there have to now be standards
00:07:39There has to be a code like I was raised with the idea that men have to have a code
00:07:44Like that a man is supposed to have code and all of the men I aspired to be like which were mostly from literature
00:07:51They were always like samurai
00:07:53They were always the long carabin in in last of the Mohicans, you know, it was all this idea of like the man
00:07:59Who was the protector the provider he had a code he had the things he would do and the things he would not do and nothing
00:08:05Was going to pull him from that and so I I genuinely believe that there is a hunger right now in men
00:08:12For that this sense of what am I supposed to do?
00:08:16Tell me the mission
00:08:17Like tell me what is expected of me and what is not and that women were the gatekeepers when it came to sex
00:08:23They were gatekeeper you had to earn this you had to earn it not by
00:08:28You know, give me the money and then I'll give it to you. It was really more about the
00:08:32Characteristics that made you someone that had resources that is that you were disciplined focused that you were someone who was who was serious about?
00:08:40Things listen, I'm a 53 year old man
00:08:43And if you read the comments on my videos like it's shocking to me
00:08:48How many women are like gaga over me and trust me? It's not looks
00:08:52It's the fact that I look like a serious person like I wear a suit
00:08:57Like, you know how many 53 year old men are running around in hoodies?
00:09:01Yeah, like I but you know, listen, I it's fine
00:09:04But the truth is there is something about old-school
00:09:07Insulinity that is very appealing to women because this this suit is a statement
00:09:13I'm put together. I take this seriously
00:09:16That's what this says. I take this seriously
00:09:19It's why you would wear this to a job interview or a funeral and you wouldn't wear it to the beach
00:09:23Are you wear it?
00:09:24Cuz you're saying I'm here I'm wearing this because I want you to know I take what I'm doing
00:09:27Seriously, and if you put this on when you're getting together with a woman you're saying I take this seriously
00:09:33I take the world seriously. I take my place in it seriously
00:09:37so I think the combination of
00:09:39Again, because I don't think it's a mystery or controversial to say that every man wants a good girl
00:09:45Who's only bad for him and every woman wants a bad boy who's only good for her, right?
00:09:50So the combination of a suit and sleeves of tattoos, it's not shocking that women would find that attractive
00:09:57It's Clark Kent Superman rolled into the one thing
00:09:59So I don't know why we are not saying to young men again
00:10:04Like this is what we should be focusing on is the mission
00:10:07Becoming the best version of yourself cleaning yourself up putting yourself together and saying to women women
00:10:13Listen, you've always been the gatekeepers of sex
00:10:16You always have been so you have to start taking that role seriously
00:10:20And you have to start holding men to some kind of a standard and I'm sure that I'll get
00:10:25Pilloried by people in the red pill space in the manosphere are going to say oh man have to accommodate themselves to women
00:10:31Okay. Yes. Yes. That's how it works when it comes to sexual gatekeeping
00:10:36that's how it works unless you want to be the kind of person that you know sneaks in the back door and steals things and
00:10:41Puts on a false face of what it is that you really want and you want to be disingenuous
00:10:45You're right. You can make a lot of money stealing. You can make a lot of money in a grift
00:10:50Should you be proud of that? I don't think so
00:10:52Yeah, if you have been feeling a bit sluggish your testosterone levels might be the problem
00:10:57They play a huge role in your energy your focus and your performance
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