00:00:00This is a new level for me.
00:00:05I am trying to push the limits of what I'm comfortable with.
00:00:08That's exciting, but it's also very stressful.
00:00:11It's me screaming into a mirror, reminding myself of all of the **** that I need to keep
00:00:16an eye on.
00:00:17It's exciting, but I'm feeling it.
00:00:19I'm really feeling it.
00:00:26Guess what?
00:00:27Tour is back, baby.
00:00:28I'm about to fly across the world, actually, to go to three countries and play eight shows
00:00:33in three weeks.
00:00:34So, Australia, New Zealand and Bali, I will soon be inside you.
00:00:41We made it.
00:00:50Landed in Sydney.
00:00:51Body clock has no idea what time it is.
00:00:53Today's Sunday.
00:00:54It's an Australian Sunday, but it's everybody else's Saturday, and the show's on Thursday.
00:00:59So the plan between now and then is to just take care of myself, acclimate, try and get
00:01:03my body clock in line.
00:01:04The name of the game today is don't fall asleep.
00:01:08That's it.
00:01:09If I fall asleep, rest of the week's ****.
00:01:16Where am I?
00:01:19Right, when in Australia, the last time I had some of these on, I was sat right there.
00:01:29What do you think, Jimmy?
00:01:33I'm watching the kit.
00:01:34The kit?
00:01:35The kit.
00:01:36You just got to watch the kit or not?
00:01:39Dad's looking after the kit.
00:01:40We're going to have a dip and then we'll be back.
00:01:43Jimmy's hot.
00:01:44Just looking after your stuff.
00:01:45Don't worry, boys.
00:01:46That was a belly flop in a hole.
00:01:50Jimmy's late for his gig because we haven't come back to get the **** club.
00:01:53Why did Jimmy Carr start so late at his gig?
00:01:56Apparently, James Smith and Chris Williamson's ****head friends didn't get out of the sea
00:02:00for long enough.
00:02:03Jet lag update.
00:02:22I think I've completed it.
00:02:23I think this crazy psy-op inverted wake up first thing in the morning thing.
00:02:28I think it's worked.
00:02:29I went to bed at eleven o'clock and I woke up at seven thirty and I actually feel like
00:02:32a functioning human but I'm not allowed to see sunlight yet so I feel like a slightly
00:02:37mincy Batman.
00:02:38I keep the curtains drawn, put the glasses on, keep the lights low.
00:02:42Today's going to be fun because I'm going to get to run through the show with the boys
00:02:46because they haven't seen it yet.
00:02:48Max, Dean, Alex, none of them have seen the show so the boys are going to come around today
00:02:52and we're going to have a look at everything that I want to do from a production standpoint
00:02:55which is exciting.
00:02:56It means that I can get creative with how we film it, how we make the socials off the back
00:03:00of it, how I want the lighting to be.
00:03:01I think today will be fun unless I crash at three PM.
00:03:12This is Darling Harbour in the middle of Sydney and that is the Darling Harbour Theatre.
00:03:17Fucking cool.
00:03:18Last time we did smaller show, medium show, bigger show on a show that I'd run thirty
00:03:23times before.
00:03:25This time more people, two and a half thousand people for a show that I've never done before.
00:03:34That's me.
00:03:35It takes my butthole to go like this.
00:03:39The inner colonist in me wants to board these ships and retake this great land.
00:03:44Don't be shy, darling.
00:03:49We were friends once before.
00:03:51I mean, by the way, I mean board the fucking wooden thing, I don't mean the actual warship
00:03:55behind it that's got fucking modern weapons on it.
00:03:58No, no.
00:03:59I want me, my friends and a cutlass.
00:04:01Dude, have I been shooting cannons with the boys?
00:04:04Give them the triple cannons.
00:04:08The modern boys would never get to understand how good it is to go plundering with your mates
00:04:12on a weekend.
00:04:13Plunder?
00:04:14When was the last time you plundered?
00:04:15You haven't plundered anything.
00:04:16I couldn't tell you.
00:04:17I haven't plundered in years.
00:04:19You better not be out plundering again, Alex.
00:04:22Oh, mom.
00:04:23What do I want?
00:04:26Mom!
00:04:27All my friends are plundering.
00:04:28How are you?
00:04:29How are you?
00:04:30Yeah, I'm good, man.
00:04:31Hello.
00:04:32Great to finally meet you.
00:04:33How are you?
00:04:34Is this where you did your coffee, like, competition thing?
00:04:38So, like, yeah, this is where I trained to become a world class barista.
00:04:42I come bearing gifts.
00:04:43Oh, amazing.
00:04:44I was going to say.
00:04:45Did you bring merch?
00:04:46I did.
00:04:47So, Sidney's going to be a big one.
00:04:48Fucking 2 and a half thousand, yeah.
00:04:53Uh, I feel okay.
00:05:01It's 4 p.m.
00:05:02Jet lag's a myth.
00:05:03Jet lag's a myth.
00:05:04It's been good.
00:05:05We went for lunch with Ali Abdaal and Matt Surname I can't pronounce.
00:05:08How do I pronounce it?
00:05:09Matt D'Avella.
00:05:10Matt D'Avella.
00:05:11He fucking rules.
00:05:12OG YouTuber now turned super dad.
00:05:14Ali OG YouTuber now turned super dad.
00:05:16The show's in three days and I need to kill probably about half an hour of material and
00:05:21each word that I get rid of makes me hurt inside.
00:05:24It pains my heart, but I can't do a two and a half hour show.
00:05:28That would be insane.
00:05:29There's no interval either.
00:05:30No one's got a bladder that big.
00:05:32The next two days are just going to be dedicated to trying to get the show completely dialed,
00:05:37which basically means killing all of the bits that I can't use anymore.
00:05:41I say that's the next two days.
00:05:43Tomorrow morning I'm doing Australian morning TV and then tomorrow evening I'm going for
00:05:46dinner with Tony Abbott, I think was the ex present prime minister.
00:05:53Something he's important.
00:05:54The most important thing is that chat likes a myth and I vow alphadit.
00:06:03I vow alphadit.
00:06:04I vow alphadit.
00:06:05I vow alphadit.
00:06:21I vow alphadit.
00:06:45Welcome back.
00:06:46From reality TV starts a global podcasting powerhouse across 1000 episodes.
00:06:52Chris Williamson's at modern wisdom series has started conversations changing the way
00:06:57people think, feel and look at life over a billion downloads billing with a bay.
00:07:03So you've obviously inspired and motivated a lot of people of the listeners.
00:07:07But what have you taken from the people that you've interviewed?
00:07:10One of the lessons, especially given that I reinvented myself at 30, 32 and then moved
00:07:15to America at 33 was it's never too late to reinvent yourself because people have got short
00:07:22memories and most importantly, they just don't care.
00:07:25So whatever it is, they're not thinking about you.
00:07:28Um, and one other one is that adversity is a terrible gift to waste.
00:07:35The most of the growth that you have in life comes from your lowest moments.
00:07:38So, you know, in the mid nineties there was a woman who was living in Edinburgh in quiet
00:07:43poverty.
00:07:44She was married in a relationship that she called abusive.
00:07:47She fled to Portugal with her daughter and this manuscript of a book that she was working
00:07:51on.
00:07:52Her husband tried to stop her from leaving by hiding the manuscript.
00:07:55She said she was clinically depressed and suicidal.
00:07:57She used to walk her daughter to a cafe because she couldn't afford to heat her apartment so
00:08:02that she could be warm while she wrote this book.
00:08:04She got rejected by 12 different publishers.
00:08:07That's 12 different people saying that she wasn't good enough, right?
00:08:10This rejection wasn't just a small thing.
00:08:12It was an existential crisis and each rejection further emboldened her to go and work harder
00:08:17to get this thing done.
00:08:18So clinically depressed, suicidal, abusive relationship, got this daughter who doesn't
00:08:21have a heated home.
00:08:23JK Rowling went on to sell 500 million copies in the Harry Potter franchise and became richer
00:08:28than the queen.
00:08:30Adversity is a terrible thing to waste.
00:08:31So that's your podcast.
00:08:32What about this live tour?
00:08:33That's what you're here for.
00:08:34Tell us what do people get on in your, in your live presentation.
00:08:38It's a solo show of me on stage.
00:08:40It's kind of like a Ted Talk with a ton of jokes in it.
00:08:43It is in Sydney this Thursday, the Darling Harbor, then Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Brisbane,
00:08:48Perth and Brisbane are already sold out and it'll make you feel less alone and help you
00:08:52understand yourself more.
00:08:53That's what I'm here to try and do.
00:08:54I suspect it was all those years as a nightclub manager that set you up for this, like an understanding
00:08:58of people.
00:08:59A little bit.
00:09:00Yeah.
00:09:01Human nature.
00:09:02Human nature is at its most transparent when people are five drinks deep.
00:09:06We hear that a lot in television.
00:09:07It's quite extraordinary what you've been able to achieve.
00:09:11Thank you.
00:09:12I appreciate that.
00:09:13I think what's most extraordinary is I managed to tell JK Rowling's origin story in 30 seconds.
00:09:16I wasn't able to do that.
00:09:33The girl with the dog just walked past, but looking in, smiling like, and then she came
00:09:39back the other way, doing the exact same thing.
00:09:45Don't be obvious.
00:09:46Don't be obvious.
00:09:47She was charming.
00:09:48We double as Chris's bodyguards.
00:09:49All right, should do this.
00:09:50Hey, day three in Australia.
00:09:52Thank you for getting us all here safely.
00:09:54Thank you for helping us thread the needle of jet lag.
00:09:57What an unbelievable fluke that is that I actually feel human.
00:10:00I think the boys do too, and we've only been here for three days.
00:10:04Got one more day to relax and get ready before chaos and war zone begins.
00:10:09Keep us calm and regulated.
00:10:10Let us do the work that helps make the world a better place or at the very least fulfills
00:10:14us.
00:10:15Amen.
00:10:16Amen.
00:10:17Most secular grace of all time, which actually becomes a bit of a wishlist after a while.
00:10:24It's like, and I want, I want my knee pain to go away and I, I, I, I would like a blazer
00:10:33with mostly hand movement.
00:10:35And I would like to spend the last 24 hours sleeping, eating and preparing.
00:10:52I didn't have my set completely finished because I had to rush from the last work in progress
00:10:57in Austin last Monday.
00:10:59I just rushed out here.
00:11:00So it's been a bit of a sprint finish to get the show done.
00:11:03And that's exciting, but it's also very stressful because the first show is the biggest show
00:11:07of the entire run.
00:11:09And the time when I've got the least experience of doing this set, this brand new show.
00:11:15I'm doing some things tomorrow that I've never seen done live.
00:11:18I'm not doing fucking back handsprings and stuff.
00:11:21There's not going to be a break dance number or a fucking musical, but I am trying to push
00:11:24the limits of what I'm comfortable with.
00:11:26And I'm, I'm doing some things that are very revealing and push the audience to reflect.
00:11:33There's way more audience involvement.
00:11:36It's adventurous and kind of feels dangerous and that's, what's cool.
00:11:39It feels like a high wire act that could sort of go wrong.
00:11:42So there's stakes and it's exciting, but it I'm fucking feeling it.
00:11:48I'm really feeling it and I just want to enjoy it.
00:11:50I really think I'm going to enjoy it.
00:11:54But the reason I'm going to enjoy it is because of how terrifying it is.
00:11:58This is a new level to me.
00:12:20It is the first show of the Aussie New Zealand Bali tour.
00:12:31This is a big boy.
00:12:32This is two and a half thousand people.
00:12:34This is the second biggest show I've ever done.
00:12:37The first time to have ever done this set live.
00:12:39You just don't know exactly where it's going to head, but you're not sure of the direction.
00:12:43Everyone's still a little bit unsure of what works, what doesn't work, and you can only
00:12:46really gauge that with an audience.
00:12:48And also coming to a venue like this, because it's so schmick, so professional, there's so
00:12:52many different options that we've got.
00:12:54Sometimes you can have too many options and conflate a little.
00:12:57So yes, some of the things that we're dialling in, the vision, getting the timing right for
00:13:01vision, getting the timing right for lighting, getting the timing right for walk on tracks,
00:13:05all the audio cues, the switches between some of the different lighting scenes and the different
00:13:10phrasing that we're using, make sure we can hear what's going on out the crowd.
00:13:13Then you've got the lights, also communications between the tech team that have literally only
00:13:18just seen the show during soundcheck, and then having to communicate that.
00:13:22There's a lot of those little moving parts going on.
00:13:25Some people could think that because I used to be the headliner.
00:13:28I'd be that, I'd be number two.
00:13:29I'll tell you the truth, I actually prefer, I prefer being the number two.
00:13:33Way less pleasure.
00:13:39Real change is very difficult.
00:13:40This was something I talked about in the last show.
00:13:41People will lose five pounds, they'll move companies.
00:13:44But how many people do you know that have lost 50 or 100 pounds or have changed careers or
00:13:47moved to a different country?
00:13:48And most people only get to deep, deep change when they're in deep pain.
00:13:51Like all of your biggest points of growth in your life have germinated from your lowest
00:13:55moments.
00:13:56So that line that JK Rowling had, a rock bottom is a very firm foundation to build from.
00:14:02You want to try and do it before you get there, but change is very individual.
00:14:06So it's difficult for me to say without going, so what is it you want to achieve?
00:14:09And what are the obstacles in the way?
00:14:10And what are the specific, specific fears?
00:14:13Gentlemen, yes.
00:14:15What does fulfillment look like for me?
00:14:16At the moment it's just enjoying each day, like especially for the last couple of years
00:14:19I've achieved so much objectively.
00:14:21One of the big takeaways from tonight, which hopefully it'll help the boys, is why is it
00:14:26that we feel like we've achieved a lot objectively but it hasn't touched us subjectively?
00:14:30And there's all of these different stories and lessons and things that I try to bring
00:14:33in.
00:14:34I think it's a much more difficult show.
00:14:35The first one was getting from zero to one.
00:14:36You need to get your life together.
00:14:37And as you change, people are going to go, wow, you're different.
00:14:40And that's hard, right?
00:14:41That's the lonely chapter stuff.
00:14:43This one is about the problems and the challenges that people make, intelligent people make whilst
00:14:48doing everything right.
00:14:51Why is it that I feel deeper than most, work harder than most, achieve more than most, and
00:14:55yet I still feel existentially empty?
00:14:58What the fuck is like this bottomless pit, like going to a buffet and never getting full?
00:15:03I've spent a long time sacrificing the way that I feel for something that I want to achieve.
00:15:08And now I'm significantly more happy to sacrifice things that I want to achieve for the way that
00:15:12I feel.
00:15:42the way that I feel.
00:15:59Yes?
00:16:00Overcoming burnout.
00:16:01Overcoming burnout.
00:16:02You are speaking to patient fucking zero here, my friend.
00:16:04Obviously, spaciousness, you need a little bit of time.
00:16:07The problem is how much of our sense of self-worth is taken from how hard we can push ourselves.
00:16:13We will just keep on going, nose against grindstone, because that's where we get our sense of self-worth
00:16:17and belonging.
00:16:18That's where the world has started to give us a degree of love and acceptance and praise
00:16:22and now we matter.
00:16:25You need to learn that after a while, working harder is not going to fix your problems.
00:16:30There are very few problems in life that working harder won't make better, but there is a certain
00:16:35category of them that working harder will make them worse.
00:16:38And burnout for me, this happened every October, so freshers week, when university students
00:16:45come back.
00:16:46It was the middle of September until the start of October in the UK.
00:16:49The second week of October for a decade, I got depression.
00:16:54I couldn't get out of bed for about five days.
00:16:57And it took me nearly 10 years to realize, oh, I hadn't slept for more than four hours,
00:17:03like three weeks.
00:17:04I'd worked every single night at a club night and I'd been out drinking for half of them
00:17:08and I'd got up and just checked my, I hadn't trained.
00:17:11I hadn't seen sunlight.
00:17:12I hadn't eaten correctly.
00:17:13What's last night's dominoes and a beer?
00:17:15Oh, that's burnout.
00:17:18And you can do that.
00:17:19You can just basically go as hard as possible, blow your engine and then go again.
00:17:23But in my experience after a while, it's unsustainable.
00:17:26I can't do it.
00:17:28Oh, dude, I love the show.
00:17:29So good.
00:17:30Second time seeing Chris.
00:17:31You've already soaked it all in because you've heard all the podcasts, but it's a very different
00:17:34experience, especially in person, to be honest, just how relevant it was for me.
00:17:38I recently started back at therapy and so much of the conversation today actually mirrored
00:17:42a lot of the conversation I had this morning with my therapist.
00:17:44We're talking a lot about overachieving and it didn't necessarily surprise me because I
00:17:48kind of expected him to go there, but just how relevant it was and how much it kind of
00:17:51like hit for me during the entire shows.
00:17:53It surprised me with the breathing exercises and the groundedness.
00:17:58I think like as a whole, that was really beautiful.
00:18:01It was good just to when Chris was getting the crowd to take a deep breath and actually
00:18:05sit in the motions and the feelings and then have everyone grounded.
00:18:09I loved how together the audience felt and he made everyone feel super comfortable.
00:18:14The meditation task actually definitely stood out.
00:18:17I found it very interesting how he did a lot more interactive content.
00:18:21You know, three times he did crowd work and every time he managed to, his tonality was
00:18:25just white.
00:18:26He knew when to speed up, he knew when to slow down, take it in because if you've got high
00:18:29standards, you look past the moment.
00:18:31They're like always looking over the shoulder of the present moment for what's coming next.
00:18:34Bro, you nailed it with the thing where it's like you're a high performer and your standard
00:18:39is to always succeed.
00:18:40When?
00:18:41Curse of confidence.
00:18:42Dude!
00:18:43I was like...
00:18:44Chris's show was like this unique thing where you can actually get immersed and feel like
00:18:48you're connected to it.
00:18:49There's portions when you can chat, comment, have instant feedback and then points where
00:18:54you get real deep.
00:18:55If I could take something away, it would be to really dig deep into your purpose and why,
00:19:02instead of searching for something on the surface, search within.
00:19:06Being more peace of mind, giving myself time to really just know that I'm enough and he
00:19:12can really just make that impact on making you just crystal clear to know that.
00:19:17It was amazing, life-changing.
00:19:18Fuck me, that's hard to do.
00:19:28Really decided to put the difficulty level up by... it's twice as hard as the last one.
00:19:35I mean it's good, it's very exciting, it's very, very nerve-wracking to do that.
00:19:40Super nerve-wracking to do this show.
00:19:42So much that can go wrong.
00:19:44So many moments where someone in the audience can do something or say something.
00:19:51We got the tech wrong tonight.
00:19:52The lights were up too long, the song came on at the wrong point.
00:19:56It was fun.
00:19:57It was exciting.
00:19:58It was really exciting.
00:20:01I'm glad that I did something that wasn't safe, that didn't just run the old show back and
00:20:06I really hope it landed.
00:20:08I need to go to bed.
00:20:09Alright guys, Melbourne tomorrow.
00:20:32Chris Williamson live at the Palai Theatre in Melbourne.
00:20:38Is he mostly wise?
00:20:39That was, that was...
00:20:40That was shit.
00:20:41The thing is, about the Australian accent, they always go up at the end of the sentence
00:20:48until they're finished talking and then they go down.
00:20:51You see what I mean?
00:20:52They're mostly wise.
00:21:09Excuse me.
00:21:10Excuse me.
00:21:11Excuse me.
00:21:12I don't think we know who we are, but if you get to speak to us...
00:21:17As a water farce.
00:21:18I was just saying to Chris then, I was like, the thing that was weird is we started with
00:21:22a bigger show first.
00:21:23So I said, he will give that the most importance.
00:21:26So here we go, Sydney's the Catalina wine mix up.
00:21:28Then he'll also forget it's the first time he's ever done that live event.
00:21:32And he'll go, was it perfect?
00:21:33No.
00:21:34I'm not sure what he's saying.
00:21:53Strange downtime before a show, there's no loud music, James is fucked off, he's on stage.
00:22:10I'm just waiting, thinking.
00:22:13Tonight I really want to connect with the audience as much as I can.
00:22:17Last night was completely road testing everything.
00:22:19I think I've got a good idea about what it is I should focus on.
00:22:22So I just want to enjoy it.
00:22:24I'm here to have fun.
00:22:25Been here before, done this before, sold out.
00:22:29Beautiful Friday evening in Melbourne.
00:22:38You had your life over again.
00:22:52What would you change?
00:22:53I had my life over again.
00:22:54What would I change?
00:22:55Jesus Christ, I'd feel less.
00:22:59I think a lot of what I've done, a lot of what's driven me to get to where I am has been fearing
00:23:04not doing it right, not getting it right, not being enough, not something.
00:23:08I don't know who the not enough is for.
00:23:11I don't know what the fear is of, but it's been one of the things that's pushed me.
00:23:15You know, this entire show is a thinly veiled autobiography.
00:23:20It's me screaming into a mirror, reminding myself of all of the shit that I need to keep
00:23:23an eye on.
00:23:24Not running away from a life that you want, running toward a life that you fear thing.
00:23:27I don't think that you need to do it to improve your performance.
00:23:30I think that you can get to where you need to go without hating yourself in the moment.
00:23:34I don't think you need to use self-rejection as the fuel that pushes you there.
00:23:37What do you bench?
00:23:38What do I bench?
00:23:39That's a good question.
00:23:42My best bench was 140.
00:23:45James has got four figure testosterone.
00:23:49The last time that we were on tour in Australia, him pointing at me in the gym as we were training
00:23:54and then the same thing around North America to then come in with, he's brought fucking
00:23:57hypodermic needles with him on tour.
00:24:00Mate, it's my peptides.
00:24:02No, it's not James, it's your testosterone.
00:24:05Yeah.
00:24:06This is fucking unbelievable.
00:24:08And I'm not allowed to throw my undies on stage at Chris, so this is the modern wisdom version
00:24:16of throwing your undies.
00:24:17I think the way that it was structured was just awesome, the way that it got the crowd
00:24:20involved coming together of human beings, campfire, factory reset, you know, staring into the flames.
00:24:25It's awesome.
00:24:26I felt like the room was one.
00:24:27It was really nice to get 2,000 people in the same moment was very special.
00:24:32He makes you feel like you know him.
00:24:35He breaks that barrier of you being the crowd and him speaking.
00:24:39It was super special.
00:24:40It was a reflecting point by the end of it.
00:24:42I think I got a couple of things to think about.
00:24:44I'm trying to be a better dad, try and take life not too seriously, reflect, enjoy the
00:24:48journey not just about what's at the end of the rainbow.
00:24:51I think too much into the future, but I forget to live.
00:24:54I think that was the biggest thing for me that resonated.
00:24:57He makes, I guess deep questions sometimes seem so simple.
00:25:01The answer can be so simple.
00:25:03It doesn't have to be as complicated as we make things out to be.
00:25:07Do you want a hug?
00:25:15I'm like a little rabbit.
00:25:22Say goodnight.
00:25:24Goodnight.
00:25:25It's a day after the Melbourne show and we're still here, but Zach is playing a festival
00:25:35today.
00:25:36I'm going to go watch him.
00:25:38It's pretty fucking retarded that we're across the planet doing different things in the same
00:25:44cities at the same time, but it wasn't planned.
00:25:48It was going to be in Australia one way or another.
00:25:49He was only going to be playing for himself.
00:25:50I played for me.
00:25:51That was it.
00:26:14It is so much more fun to do this with my boys.
00:26:16The fact that I get to travel across the planet, see friends that I'm not with, hang with friends
00:26:22that I am with, it's it's unreal.
00:26:26I'm just enjoying it.
00:26:27It feels like high pressure because the show's so fucking new, like changing 20% of the show
00:26:33every night, which is kind of terrifying.
00:26:35But also I guess this is where reps and improving the skill set of doing the live thing come
00:26:42from.
00:26:43And the whole point of this is to push the limits, to try and do different things, to
00:26:46try and be adventurous, to build the skill of doing this live.
00:26:49It's kind of weird, man.
00:26:50You know, tour's awesome.
00:26:52It fucking rules, but it is very insulated that you're kind of kept in this weird bubble
00:26:57and then just deposited in a new place and deposited in a new place.
00:27:00What it sounds like is, Oh, you get to travel and then do a bit of work, but it's not.
00:27:06It's you do work and the whole world moves around you and the work stays the same.
00:27:11So I guess I'm, that's a skill as well.
00:27:14Enjoying tour, living tour outside of the bubble is a skill that we need to do this.
00:27:19We need to say I, instead of going back right now so that we can get food so that we can
00:27:23go to bed or so that we can go to dinner and do the next soundcheck or whatever, like maybe
00:27:27we can just find 15 minutes so I can actually have a memory of being in Melbourne and St.
00:27:31Kilda and actually know what it feels like.
00:27:32So not only am I learning the skill of being on stage, I'm learning the skill of being on
00:27:37tour.
00:27:38And those are two very different things, learning to enjoy it, learning to relax, learning to
00:27:42make memories with the boys, learning to not take it too seriously, but then not take it
00:27:45so relaxed that you're not improving and constantly iterating.
00:27:48So I guess this is the end of the first leg, but it actually just feels like the start of
00:27:52tour because I've got cities coming up that I've never been to before, shows coming up
00:27:55that I've never been to before, countries that I've never been to before.
00:27:58I'm going to have some adventures with the boys, so stay tuned.