Q&A - Health Update, Sobriety & Finding The One

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CChris Williamson
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00:00:00Hello everybody, welcome back to the show.
00:00:02I had a haircut and hit 4.1 million subscribers, so let's get into it.
00:00:08Oh, actually before I get into it, it's nearly Valentine's Day
00:00:11and I put together a list of 50 of the most evidence-based
00:00:14and viral questions on the internet and from my journal
00:00:16to connect more deeply with your partner,
00:00:18and 25 to work out whether or not you should break up.
00:00:22And this has been breaking people's brains on Instagram.
00:00:25The DM replies I've got to some of the samples of the questions are insane.
00:00:28So if you want a list of 50 questions, connect with your partner
00:00:31and 25 to work out whether or not you should break up quietly on your own.
00:00:34Go to ChrisWillX.com/Valentine.
00:00:38Okay, now let's get into it.
00:00:40Olex26.
00:00:43What uncomfortable questions should people ask themselves before going for success?
00:00:49I think a really great question that almost no one asks is,
00:00:53do I want to live the lifestyle required to get the life?
00:00:58So for instance, if you love the idea of being a rock star,
00:01:02you want to be a guitarist that tours the world,
00:01:04well, what does that look like?
00:01:05What does the lifestyle of that look like?
00:01:07It looks like 10 years probably playing in your bedroom,
00:01:10learning chords and progressions and then learning to song write.
00:01:13It looks like another five in a van touring around,
00:01:18making basically no money with a ton of uncertainty and very little support.
00:01:22And then maybe you start to pick up that, that is the lifestyle.
00:01:25And even after that, it's, do you want to be away from your family?
00:01:28If you want to have a family, friends, community, whatever,
00:01:32you're going to be traveling the world a lot.
00:01:34You're going to be spending most of your time in airports or on buses.
00:01:37Is that what you want?
00:01:39If you do not want to live the lifestyle,
00:01:42you have to release yourself of the desire.
00:01:44Whatever your definition of success is,
00:01:46the uncomfortable question you should ask before going for success,
00:01:48what is your definition of success and what is the route to get there?
00:01:52If you do not want to endure the route to get there,
00:01:54you have to relinquish yourself of the desire for the success
00:01:57because otherwise it is just guaranteeing misery, right?
00:02:00I want this thing, but I don't want to do what is required to get there
00:02:03or what is required on route to get there or to live that thing.
00:02:05It's going to be misery inducing to me.
00:02:09That seems like a pretty reliable way to have a shitty life.
00:02:11So that's a good question.
00:02:15Isabel Van Aswegen.
00:02:18Fuck. Every time, dude, with these fucking usernames.
00:02:25I'll do my best.
00:02:27Isabel Van Aswegen.
00:02:29Have you ever tried the carnivore diet?
00:02:31Yes, I did.
00:02:32I guess a version of the carnivore diet, which is meat and fruit.
00:02:34And I did that for pretty fucking strictly from September 24 until April of last year.
00:02:44So over six months.
00:02:46I felt great mentally on it.
00:02:48This is when I was going through a lot of brain fog,
00:02:49still trying to detox all of the mold and felt mentally good,
00:02:54but it annihilated my cholesterol.
00:02:57My cholesterol just went through the roof.
00:02:59Lots of people are hyper-absorbers of cholesterol or they're more sensitive to it.
00:03:04Turns out I'm one of those people.
00:03:05So the carnivore diet kind of has a lot of people pray at the altar of it
00:03:11because it makes them feel better, including me,
00:03:13but it can be pretty destructive to some of the important numbers
00:03:16and heart health and keeping an eye on LDL levels and stuff is pretty important.
00:03:20So tried it, was okay with it, took some of the principles of it,
00:03:24but back to a kind of intermittent fasting thing,
00:03:28like a 16/8, nothing until 1 p.m. or midday
00:03:32and then eat through the afternoon.
00:03:33That's the current approach, a bit more balanced.
00:03:36Tommy Cochran 7156.
00:03:42Hey Chris, congrats on your success.
00:03:44Thank you.
00:03:44Been subbed for three years now.
00:03:46I just turned 25 years old and moved out on my own
00:03:49to another state in April of last year to start my career.
00:03:51I'm doing fine at the job,
00:03:52but it does not bring me any joy or satisfaction
00:03:55that I thought it would.
00:03:56I spent a few years working towards this,
00:03:58but I know the career is not for me.
00:03:59Feel kind of lost now.
00:04:00I'm not sure what my direction is or how to find it.
00:04:03I never thought I would be in this situation.
00:04:05Any advice?
00:04:06Thank you.
00:04:08Well, dudes, that's a real challenge
00:04:11to have dedicated a bunch of time toward a thing
00:04:15that you thought was going to be
00:04:16the genuine outcome that you wanted
00:04:18and then to have the rug pulled out from underneath you.
00:04:21That's a challenge.
00:04:22So first off, I feel for you
00:04:23and I think that it's important to just sit with
00:04:26that is hard and to give yourself
00:04:28a little bit of self empathy.
00:04:30Like, oh God, like that's gonna suck.
00:04:32Advice on, I mean, you're 25,
00:04:38which means you have so much runway ahead of you.
00:04:41You can go and travel.
00:04:42You can try different things.
00:04:43You could go back to school if you wanted to.
00:04:45I'm aware that this is the oldest you've ever been,
00:04:48which feels like you should have your life together.
00:04:50You're real close to death.
00:04:52You should be further along than this.
00:04:54There's other people that are your age.
00:04:56How can I start again?
00:04:58To give you some perspective, I started again
00:05:01and I didn't launch the podcast until I was 30
00:05:05and I didn't move to America until I was 32 and not 33.
00:05:16It is just never too late.
00:05:20First off, people have got short memories.
00:05:23Everybody has short memories, including you.
00:05:26You will be surprised at how little you would be able
00:05:28to remember of you a couple of years ago.
00:05:31If you made a huge pivot now, in two years time,
00:05:34you wouldn't be able to remember this doubt
00:05:36or this life that you had
00:05:37because our recency bias is really strong.
00:05:39And the second thing,
00:05:40if you're worried about the judgment of others,
00:05:41they're just not thinking about you that much.
00:05:43They don't care, they really don't care.
00:05:45There might be some people who stand on the shoulders
00:05:49of your reinvention, as in they're still moving
00:05:52and you're having to start again.
00:05:53But it's not about that.
00:05:55You know that you're not happy.
00:05:56It doesn't bring you any joy or satisfaction
00:05:59that you thought it would.
00:06:00And you spent a few years.
00:06:01It's some cost fallacy and some loss aversion.
00:06:04It is gonna hurt and it's gonna resonate emotionally.
00:06:07It's gonna feel like your world's crashing down
00:06:08or you've wasted time.
00:06:12You know that you're not happy with this thing.
00:06:13And if you're succeeding in a life that you hate,
00:06:17imagine how amazing you could be at one that you loved.
00:06:20You literally have nothing to lose.
00:06:21You go and do something else
00:06:23and it also doesn't bring you any joy or satisfaction.
00:06:26Guess what?
00:06:27You're in the same situation.
00:06:28So I hope that motivates you to go and do it.
00:06:31Something practical you can do,
00:06:34what is the single smallest step that you could make right now
00:06:37that moves you a tiny...
00:06:40What's the smallest thing that the most afraid version
00:06:43of you could do that would move you away from this life
00:06:47and toward one that you want?
00:06:48I think that would be something good to focus on.
00:06:51evil89, what did you make of the response
00:06:54to your last health vlog?
00:06:56Good question.
00:06:57So I did a first episode of the vlog
00:07:01about four months ago or so.
00:07:04And that was tracking the journey over 18 months
00:07:07of me finding out I was living in a house with mold
00:07:10and that kicked off a whole slew of other things
00:07:13that everyone has this sort of ambient background,
00:07:17health, immune system strain that everybody's got going on.
00:07:22But sometimes you get into an environment
00:07:25where it pushes you over your limit
00:07:26and that is where all of this stuff comes to the surface.
00:07:29What was interesting about the second vlog
00:07:31was that I didn't put any of the,
00:07:35here's me struggling with this thing.
00:07:37Here is all of the evidence that proves
00:07:39that my health is actually in a bad place.
00:07:42Here is testimony from doctors and friends
00:07:45about how much I've been going through.
00:07:46And because the internet defaults to scrutiny,
00:07:50as in if someone looks okay on the outside,
00:07:52that means that anything that they're proposing
00:07:55or anything that they're going through,
00:07:56they're complaining about just sounds like the whining
00:07:59of some really fortuitous chattering class.
00:08:02I didn't get anywhere near as much sympathy.
00:08:04I don't want to have to do this weird
00:08:07throat-clearing land acknowledgement of myself,
00:08:10of my own problems in an attempt
00:08:13to try and ramp up the sympathy
00:08:15so that I can then talk about how I'm still working on it.
00:08:17It just feels so fucking contrived to do that.
00:08:20So it wasn't quite as sympathetic as I might've wanted,
00:08:25but I understand why it wasn't.
00:08:28If people haven't seen the first one,
00:08:29it's just some guy that looks like he's in good shape
00:08:32saying that he's tired and sad
00:08:36and his brain doesn't work all that much.
00:08:38I was surprised by the number of people
00:08:40that said that's just getting older.
00:08:42This is the way that it's supposed to be.
00:08:44That feels a little bit like Stockholm syndrome
00:08:46for bad health, that your tormentor,
00:08:49you've learned to love the fact
00:08:51that your health is declining at a rate
00:08:53greater than you would want to.
00:08:54And you're just saying that is what life is.
00:08:57I'm sorry, I just don't accept
00:09:00that you're supposed to get slower, sadder,
00:09:03and more stupid as you get older in your 30s.
00:09:06And to all of the people that have reached out
00:09:10with chronic fatigue, ME/CFS, CMV,
00:09:15EBV, mold, slime, H. pylori, candida,
00:09:19SIBO, heavy metals, BPAs, whatever it is,
00:09:22a lot of people have reached out
00:09:23and they feel like they've been seen
00:09:26by someone who's going through the same challenges they do,
00:09:29especially the mold stuff.
00:09:30So that has been really nice.
00:09:32Other stuff that surprised me was the range of solutions.
00:09:35It was every, a lot of you need Jesus, which may be true.
00:09:40I'm unsure how much he can help with mold detox,
00:09:42but a lot of I need Jesus or prayer.
00:09:46I need to do psychedelics, heavy dose of mushrooms.
00:09:51I'm working too hard and it's burnout,
00:09:55but I'm also a hypochondriac
00:09:58and it's nothing to do with anything that's real.
00:10:02This is opulence,
00:10:04but also because of trying to achieve too much
00:10:07at the same time.
00:10:09Goat milk cleanses were in there quite a bit.
00:10:11Water fasts were in there a lot.
00:10:13A lot of meat and fruit and carnivore diet.
00:10:15There's something about blood at the full moon,
00:10:18I think, as well.
00:10:20There were a lot.
00:10:22There were a lot of, so there was some enemas in there.
00:10:25Some bleach stuff that I can't even remember the name of.
00:10:32It was a variety of solutions.
00:10:34It was a mixed bag.
00:10:35It was a mixed bag, but I'm gonna keep talking about it
00:10:37because I think it's important and it's the truth.
00:10:40Ultimately, this is what I'm going through.
00:10:43So the internet will continue to make their judgments,
00:10:46I suppose.
00:10:47Nurse K28, what's in store for 2026?
00:10:50First off is tour.
00:10:53So I'm going to Australia, New Zealand and Bali
00:10:56in four weeks, five weeks.
00:11:00And Brisbane's sold out, Perth's sold out.
00:11:03There's still tickets for Adelaide, Auckland, Christchurch,
00:11:08Sydney, Melbourne and Bali.
00:11:13And you can get those at chriswilliamson.live.
00:11:16Just announced yesterday, the UK and Ireland tour,
00:11:20which you can also get tickets for at chriswilliamson.live.
00:11:22We're going all over the UK and Ireland and maybe Germany.
00:11:25I'm not sure yet.
00:11:26So live is a big thing.
00:11:29The new studio, which is going to be super exciting.
00:11:31That's going to include a ton of different episode styles
00:11:35that I've been really looking forward to.
00:11:36Studio has been pushed back three times now
00:11:41because I keep making changes to it.
00:11:45So that might be a me problem.
00:11:47I think it's probably a me problem.
00:11:49Well, this is in store.
00:11:50More merch, more Mostly Wise stuff,
00:11:53which I'm really excited we're working on at the moment.
00:11:55We are actually working with
00:11:57the designer for sleep token stuff.
00:11:59So the guy who does all of sleep tokens much,
00:12:02I managed to schweth an intro.
00:12:05I finessed an intro to him.
00:12:07So some of the early designs that we're seeing
00:12:10are fucking outrageous.
00:12:11It's so cool.
00:12:12I'm really excited for that.
00:12:14That'll be good.
00:12:14Book, I'm starting to think a bit more seriously about,
00:12:20but I know living with George at the moment
00:12:23and he's working on his high agency book,
00:12:25the amount of dedication and the size of the context window
00:12:27he's working with.
00:12:28And this is a lesson for everybody,
00:12:29which is if you want to do one large piece of work very well,
00:12:34an album, a thesis, a book,
00:12:40a collection of anything
00:12:42that's sort of a multi-month project,
00:12:44you really can't be trying to do other stuff at the same time.
00:12:48So in order for me to do that,
00:12:49I would need to make some changes internally in the podcast
00:12:53so that all I need to do is read for the book
00:12:57and write the book, prep for the guests,
00:12:59record the episodes and fuck off
00:13:01'cause I can't be doing anything else.
00:13:03And for all that it might look like a big operation
00:13:06from the outside, this is still very much founder mode,
00:13:09startup, spit and sawdust and caffeine energy
00:13:13stuff going on internally.
00:13:14So that's some live tour, Australia, New Zealand and Bali,
00:13:19then UK and Ireland at the back end of the year,
00:13:21chriswilliamson.live.
00:13:22If you want to get tickets there, it'd be awesome.
00:13:24New studio, new episode styles, which I can't wait for.
00:13:29I've been planning this for so long.
00:13:31And it does feel a lot like if you've ever been
00:13:35in one of those long distance texting flirtation
00:13:38relationships for ages and it's been three months
00:13:41and you're finally about to get to meet this person,
00:13:45those memes that you see on Instagram
00:13:46that are like when you actually did all of the shit
00:13:48that you said you were going to do to each other,
00:13:50that's me, but with the new studio.
00:13:52So can't wait to totally bypass all the foreplay.
00:13:56Ah, visto, it's like ah, visto.
00:14:02Thinking about quitting drinking, is it worth it?
00:14:03I currently have a day job and run a business on the side.
00:14:06So every day is 18 hours of working,
00:14:08not an office run business, needs labor.
00:14:10And every time I get occasionally drunk,
00:14:13it affects or nearly stops my enthusiasm and motivation
00:14:16for three to seven days.
00:14:17But also every time I get new opportunities
00:14:20and insights from customers or partners
00:14:22who I'm drinking with, doesn't also seem socially correct
00:14:26to get together sober, brackets, from Finland.
00:14:30Well, 18 hours of working every day is,
00:14:35that's really, really serious.
00:14:36That is no fucking small task, dude.
00:14:39Is it worth it?
00:14:41Yes, 100%.
00:14:43I think you would be very surprised
00:14:45at how much you can retain the opportunities and insights
00:14:50from customers and partners that you're drinking with
00:14:52without drinking.
00:14:53First off, if it's a really big deal,
00:14:55you can get a low or no beer, Heineken double zero.
00:15:00Guinness do a good 0% now.
00:15:03Peroni do a good 0%.
00:15:05There's loads of lapping beers
00:15:07where you can pretend like you're drinking
00:15:08and you're not actually.
00:15:10Doesn't seem socially correct to get together sober.
00:15:15I would be very cautious about outsourcing
00:15:17the way that you live your life to the mean.
00:15:21If you regress back to the mean,
00:15:22you get the results that everybody else gets.
00:15:24And the average American,
00:15:26I don't know about the average Finn,
00:15:27but the average American is obese, divorced,
00:15:30and has less than 1K in the bank.
00:15:32So following the path that everybody else follows
00:15:35sounds like outsourcing your wisdom to the crowd,
00:15:39but it's actually a reliable route to a life
00:15:42that you almost certainly don't want.
00:15:44So I don't think that whether it's socially correct or not,
00:15:49that should be your litmus test for how you should behave.
00:15:53I think you should do it.
00:15:56I think you should commit.
00:15:57I think it's very important to commit
00:15:58for a period of time.
00:16:01Six months is my advised minimum.
00:16:07All of the heavy lifting occurs in the first sort of 60 days.
00:16:10And after that, it gets easier.
00:16:12But if you only do it for 30 or 90 days,
00:16:16you pay all of the price upfront,
00:16:18and then you don't actually get to reap any of the benefits.
00:16:21I would wager that if you do it,
00:16:23you take a break for six months,
00:16:24you're not gonna wanna go back to drinking for very long,
00:16:26or at least that's what happened for me.
00:16:28Alex Boy Vibes.
00:16:30See, that one's easy.
00:16:31I like your mindset.
00:16:32Even when you're in tough places,
00:16:34you seem to have a good vibe.
00:16:35How?
00:16:39Fuck it, I did not feel like I had a good vibe last year.
00:16:432025 was the hardest year of my life, by far.
00:16:47And maybe I appropriately
00:16:51fugazied.
00:16:54Yeah, I think I was pretty open about it.
00:16:56Maybe it just comes across differently,
00:16:58but I felt like shit.
00:17:00It was really, really difficult.
00:17:02Emotionally, it was difficult.
00:17:03Professionally, it was difficult.
00:17:04Personally, it was difficult in terms of my health,
00:17:06my energy, my mood, my cognition.
00:17:09It was really, really tough.
00:17:13I try to put on, and have tried to put on,
00:17:15my sort of best face and put my best foot forward.
00:17:20For you guys, I wanna be a professional.
00:17:22I wanna show up authentically,
00:17:24so I'm not pretending that I'm in a place that I'm not.
00:17:27But also, everybody's busy,
00:17:31including the guest that is giving me their time,
00:17:34who is usually a world expert
00:17:35in whatever I'm speaking to them about.
00:17:37And there's millions of people every single day
00:17:40that are tuning into the show.
00:17:41I should fucking tie my boots tight and do the job well.
00:17:48So maybe I've put a brave face on it
00:17:49that hasn't come across.
00:17:51But no, I haven't, I haven't.
00:17:55I've cried more in the last year
00:17:57than probably in the previous two decades.
00:18:02It's not been easy.
00:18:04It's really, really been challenging.
00:18:07And if that helps to make your low mood in a tough place
00:18:12feel more justified, then I would consider that a success.
00:18:20The stuff that does help to keep me in a good vibe
00:18:23is honestly, I fucking wish he wasn't right about this.
00:18:27I really wish he wasn't right about this.
00:18:29Huben is so bang on when he says,
00:18:31"Just get 15 minutes of sunlight in your eyes."
00:18:34It is, it is so fucking true.
00:18:38I've been using these Ayo glasses, they're called Ayo, A-Y-O.
00:18:43I don't know what the website is.
00:18:45I've been wearing them.
00:18:46They're kind of like light therapy panel,
00:18:48but you wear them above your eyes.
00:18:50They look really fucking dorky.
00:18:53I've been wearing them
00:18:55because I've been getting up before the sun.
00:18:57That's been good.
00:18:58Sunlight, first thing in the morning.
00:18:59Avoiding caffeine, interestingly.
00:19:02I've been using the Nutonic Sachets and the capsules
00:19:04as opposed to the RTD.
00:19:06So I took a break from caffeine.
00:19:08I've actually increased the vegetables that I'm consuming
00:19:11and avoided oxalates.
00:19:12So stuff like spinach that it seems doesn't agree with me,
00:19:15even though I love it.
00:19:16Psychology is biology, man.
00:19:20Train, see friends, drink water, move, lots of walks.
00:19:23Don't spend too much time doom scrolling.
00:19:27But yeah, I wasn't in a good vibe really at all last year.
00:19:32And I don't know, maybe you can see now.
00:19:36I don't know whether it's coming across in this episode,
00:19:37but my brain is finally fucking working.
00:19:41Like, oh my God, it was so long last year
00:19:46that I was like holding this fucking microphone,
00:19:50trying to make words come out of my mouth
00:19:54in a way that felt even remotely close to me.
00:19:59And it just did not want to happen.
00:20:01And it was so tough.
00:20:02And it was just, I missed me.
00:20:04I missed the person that I was,
00:20:06the way that I, the quality of my thoughts,
00:20:09my ability to reflect on things and make progress for myself
00:20:14and to improve the show.
00:20:15And it really felt like I'd sort of treaded water
00:20:19for 18 months up until not that long ago.
00:20:24So the fact that I feel at least remotely close to me now
00:20:28is like, that is really a good vibe.
00:20:31So today is a bad example of me not feeling good
00:20:36because I actually feel pretty good.
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00:21:36Adichandra08, do you feel that the academic system failed you?
00:21:42Did it fail me?
00:21:50To be honest, I think I failed myself or I failed it
00:21:54because I was scared that I couldn't see a direct path
00:21:59from the subject I really wanted to learn,
00:22:03which would philosophy and psychology to a career.
00:22:05I didn't know what a professional philosopher
00:22:07would look like.
00:22:08I was so sheltered.
00:22:09I was so retarded when I went to university
00:22:11or when I was picking my courses at university.
00:22:15And I just thought, well, obviously
00:22:16that's not gonna lead to a career.
00:22:17So I have to do business
00:22:19'cause business is the most careery thing that you can do
00:22:21'cause everything is a business.
00:22:23So I picked wrong and then a decade later
00:22:27basically created my own curriculum on my timeline
00:22:32only talking about the specific area of specific subjects
00:22:38I wanted to with world experts with no homework
00:22:41and then made it into a job.
00:22:42So if this is my repurposed academia, then that's great.
00:22:48What are the things that I loved about it?
00:22:49I loved learning how to negotiate
00:22:53all of the stuff outside of the course.
00:22:56Friendships, houses, tenancy agreements, electricity bills,
00:23:00makeups and breakups and that stuff.
00:23:04I did two degrees.
00:23:07I did five years at uni and I can't remember any of it.
00:23:11And yet, if you gave me the choice,
00:23:12I would go back and do it again.
00:23:14I understand lots of people.
00:23:16The formal education system's done.
00:23:18You don't need a degree to go and do the whatever.
00:23:20And I agree with you, but I wouldn't be where I am
00:23:22if it wasn't for university and not because of the course,
00:23:25but because of everything around it.
00:23:27And maybe there is a way that you can get the benefits
00:23:29of being at university without having to pay the cost
00:23:32or do the course.
00:23:33But I get the sense it's just easier to go to university.
00:23:36So I'm still contrarian as it may be.
00:23:39I'm still pro higher education.
00:23:41Pierre Dollys.
00:23:47Thank you for sharing your health journey, Chris.
00:23:48What advice has powered you through your toughest days?
00:23:51If given the opportunity, what advice or thoughts
00:23:53would you share with the 100% healthy version of Chris?
00:23:57Fuck, I mean, it is hard, especially when,
00:24:03and this is one of the big problems for anybody with ME/CFS
00:24:07or mold or limey stuff.
00:24:09Outwardly, there is no presentation of you being ill.
00:24:14And on the inside, all that you feel is sickness.
00:24:16So if my hand didn't work, but I had a broken arm,
00:24:21I would be able to show people,
00:24:24well, look at the broken arm.
00:24:25This is why part of my function has been taken away from me.
00:24:29And that would engender sympathy and understanding.
00:24:34And it would also help me to legitimize
00:24:38why stuff isn't going well.
00:24:40But when everything's internal,
00:24:42and you can see all of the blood work that you want to go,
00:24:45holy fuck, that is 400% greater than the upper bound
00:24:50of what this particular part of your immune system
00:24:53is supposed to be able to deal with.
00:24:56Wow, but it's arbitrary, it's metrics on a screen.
00:25:00Maybe I should just work harder.
00:25:01David Goggins would get through it.
00:25:03The advice that's powered me through my toughest days,
00:25:06honestly, is just the choice right now
00:25:10is between staying where I am or keeping going to get better.
00:25:14And I am just not going to quit.
00:25:20I'm never, ever, ever going to settle.
00:25:22I'm never, ever, ever going to stop.
00:25:24I would much sooner die trying to feel better
00:25:30than survive letting entropy win.
00:25:36Like that is the whole game, right?
00:25:39We locally reverse entropy.
00:25:41That's what humans do.
00:25:42The entire universe trying to break apart order.
00:25:46And for a brief eight decade window,
00:25:52one little corner of the universe, you resist that entropy.
00:25:56The single most powerful onward marching driver
00:26:01of the entire universe versus you.
00:26:09It is unlikely odds for all of us,
00:26:14but I really like the scrap in a weird way.
00:26:20And yeah, I would much sooner keep on pushing than give up.
00:26:25And that's hard because it feels like giving up
00:26:34becomes an option that you could take
00:26:36and you would not need to get your hopes up so much.
00:26:40I just don't want to settle.
00:26:42I think that's a good way to summarize it.
00:26:45I really, really, really do not want to fucking settle.
00:26:48And that's going to cause some pain and some disappointment
00:26:54in a lot of areas of life, but it's cool.
00:26:58I think I'll look back on a life where I didn't settle
00:27:01and feel like I left it all on the field of play,
00:27:05significantly more.
00:27:08Karen M6511, Tom Brady gave you a shout out today.
00:27:13Well, that's nice.
00:27:15He works with a company, hydrogen water company, Echo,
00:27:19that I'm a fan of.
00:27:21And I think he works with, I swear he's just about to sign
00:27:26with somebody else as well that I work with.
00:27:30So I have no idea what this is.
00:27:32I have no idea what he said, but someone link me below.
00:27:36That would be cool to see.
00:27:38He's a go, he's fantastic.
00:27:40Mattis1665, hey Chris, do you plan on interviewing
00:27:45bigger rock metal artists like Vessel, Bruce Springsteen,
00:27:50Ollie Sykes, Corey Taylor, Elton John, Caleb Showmo,
00:27:54Angus Young, James Hetfield, et cetera.
00:27:56Would love to hear you ask them about touring, mental health,
00:27:59balance in the music business and much more.
00:28:00I fucking love your episode with Jon Bellion, Under Earth,
00:28:03and I prevail.
00:28:04And I'm really interested in hearing their perspectives
00:28:06on these topics, best regards.
00:28:08So Ollie and me have been talking about doing an episode
00:28:11for, since I started the pod.
00:28:15Corey Taylor, I just got looped in with.
00:28:17Caleb, yes, but that'll be after the new
00:28:21Bare Tooth album drops.
00:28:22We've talked about that too.
00:28:23So yeah, I'm trying to lean in.
00:28:26Me and Ronnie Radke have been chatting.
00:28:28Who the fuck else is in my inbox?
00:28:31There's a few others, a few of the musicians.
00:28:34I really like it, that rock and metal scene
00:28:38has been a huge part of my life since I was a kid.
00:28:41And now I get to sit down and ask people whose music
00:28:46I've listened to for hundreds of hours,
00:28:49fucking cool questions.
00:28:50So I really, I'm really glad that you like it.
00:28:53Also in the new studio, the guys from USORA and Drumeo
00:28:57are hooking us up with the ability
00:29:00to record live performances.
00:29:01It's not gonna be like what they can do,
00:29:03but we'll be able to record studio quality guitar
00:29:06and keys and vocals.
00:29:09So I'm gonna try and twist Bellian's nipple a little bit
00:29:14and get him to start shipping me some of his boys through.
00:29:18'Cause he's working with everybody.
00:29:20And who knows who'll come and do a little performance
00:29:25on the pod over the next couple of years.
00:29:27I'm excited for it.
00:29:29Yynxster9829, will the merch return?
00:29:34Please, please, please bring it back.
00:29:37I missed it and I don't know if he responded
00:29:39to a question like this before.
00:29:40Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:29:41It is pretty fucking cool.
00:29:46Yes, of course.
00:29:47We are doing a new drop in March, March, April time.
00:29:52Currently working through all of the designs right now
00:29:55with the Sleep Token guy.
00:29:57And the goal is to get to, I don't know,
00:30:01three drops a year, something like that.
00:30:02Or a quarterly thing.
00:30:03I think quarterly might feel a little bit quick.
00:30:06Whatever pace people want new stuff at.
00:30:09And I guess I need it 'cause it's all I wear now,
00:30:11which is cool.
00:30:12It is really, really nice to be able to wear my own brand.
00:30:15And I haven't seen it in the wild at all yet
00:30:18when it hasn't just been a friend that I've given it to.
00:30:20But I guess I need to sell more in order for that to happen.
00:30:23That being said, we did thousands and thousands
00:30:26and thousands of pieces on the first one.
00:30:27So it'll be back, it'll be soon.
00:30:29We're gonna come up with a solution
00:30:30to try and do shipping directly inside of the UK
00:30:33to get over the shipping costs.
00:30:34For the Australia tour, we've got limited much for that,
00:30:38like limited edition stuff
00:30:39that should be done inside of Australia.
00:30:41Trying to come up with global shipping, all the rest of it.
00:30:43Fucking nightmare.
00:30:44Says the guy that wants to write a book.
00:30:47I'll get around to it eventually.
00:30:512004 Jones.
00:30:53I'm currently dealing with health problems similar to yours.
00:30:56I've been finally diagnosed
00:30:57after over 10 years of debilitating fatigue and anxiety
00:31:00with Lyme and two strains of Babesia and lead poisoning.
00:31:03I'd love to hear more about your journey to get better.
00:31:05I really enjoy your videos,
00:31:06but especially the ones you did about your health.
00:31:08It speaks to me a lot.
00:31:09Thank you, Chris.
00:31:10You're the best.
00:31:11Yeah, Will.
00:31:14I'm sorry that you're going through that 10 years
00:31:18of being tired and battling something that you can't see
00:31:21and nobody can see and you will have doubted
00:31:26every single day, whether or not it's real
00:31:27or it's just in your head.
00:31:28And people will have said, you know,
00:31:29maybe you need to do CBT or ACT therapy.
00:31:32Maybe it's psychosomatic or you're a hypochondriac.
00:31:34Maybe it's your anxiety.
00:31:35Maybe it's whatever.
00:31:36And then you see something that legitimates it.
00:31:38And that in some ways is reassuring
00:31:42because it makes you seem a little bit less crazy.
00:31:44Everything about the journey is tracked in those docs.
00:31:49Dude, there is nothing else that I'm doing.
00:31:51Right now, my goal is working on my nervous system
00:31:54to just retrain it that life can be safe
00:31:57and that I have capacity to deal with challenges that come.
00:32:01But I'll keep on recording it and putting it out there
00:32:06and being accused of just working too hard
00:32:11or not working hard enough or all of the menstrual blood
00:32:15at the full moon sacrifice or the goat milk
00:32:17or the fucking psychedelics.
00:32:18I'm gonna keep doing it, Will.
00:32:21So hold on.
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00:33:36Steph K.E.
00:33:39Why do you think the dating scene is so bad in Australia?
00:33:43Finding a husband is impossible.
00:33:49I have no idea
00:33:50about what the dating scene is like in Australia.
00:33:52I guess I'm gonna go and be there in six weeks.
00:33:55So I will scrutinize.
00:33:58I would be talking out of my ass.
00:34:00I think the world would be a better place
00:34:03if people more often said,
00:34:04"I don't have an opinion on that."
00:34:06And unfortunately this is one of those times.
00:34:08The dating scene being everywhere,
00:34:10I don't know why it's specifically,
00:34:12here's something that I can say, okay.
00:34:14I don't think that it's an Australia problem.
00:34:16I think it's a modern West problem.
00:34:21So Australia in the West, whatever.
00:34:22Kind of, kind of the opposite.
00:34:26I think everybody is struggling at the moment.
00:34:29Shifting sands underneath everyone's feet
00:34:33about what's expected from both men and women,
00:34:36how to navigate this world, mismatch,
00:34:38coupling, vitality curve, socioeconomic, tall girl problem.
00:34:44All of these things, they are not small road bumps
00:34:48to get over, they're fucking massive.
00:34:50It's much more like the wall
00:34:52between America and fucking Mexico.
00:34:54You're not alone in struggling in the current dating market.
00:35:01Especially if you're the sort of girl
00:35:03who listens to this podcast,
00:35:05you're probably educated, maybe higher educated,
00:35:08maybe post-grad educated.
00:35:11You're probably earning at least a little bit of money.
00:35:13You're driven, you're reflected.
00:35:16Your standards for yourself are quite high
00:35:18if you're into the sort of stuff
00:35:19that we talk about on the show,
00:35:20which probably means that you have high standards
00:35:24for a partner, or at least you want to be able
00:35:26to emotionally connect or intellectually connect in a way.
00:35:29That's a weird kind of standard.
00:35:32And it's one that the internet doesn't talk about that much.
00:35:34'Cause they can talk about, you know, six feet tall,
00:35:36six pack, six figures.
00:35:42I think a lot of people are struggling
00:35:44with just finding someone
00:35:45that they can really deeply emotionally connect with.
00:35:47And they want to feel like their partner is someone
00:35:51who's on their level emotionally and intellectually.
00:35:56Dating is just one big, long conversation.
00:36:00And if you're struggling to find people
00:36:03that are into the stuff that you're into,
00:36:05because the same way as if you had a very refined palette,
00:36:08you wouldn't be able to eat in quite so many restaurants
00:36:10because your standards are a little bit higher.
00:36:12The same thing is true for relating
00:36:14and connecting to other people.
00:36:15And it's very different.
00:36:17I don't see many people talking about,
00:36:18well, what you should do is put up
00:36:20with less of a level of connection with your partner.
00:36:22You go, well, fuck, if I've done five years of therapy
00:36:25and a thousand sessions of meditation,
00:36:27and I've really regulated my nervous system,
00:36:29or I'm curious about the world, or I love to learn,
00:36:32that's obviously important to you.
00:36:34And if you can't find a partner
00:36:35that is important to them too,
00:36:38it's always going to feel imbalanced.
00:36:39And that's a kind of a silent epidemic
00:36:43that no one's talking about,
00:36:45because the same as if you've got some chronic fatigue thing,
00:36:48it never appears on a balance sheet.
00:36:49Like, show me where it is on your Tinder profile.
00:36:52You just feel it, it's in a vibe.
00:36:54I think this is a challenge everywhere.
00:36:56There's a lot of structural reasons,
00:36:57there's a lot of objective reasons,
00:36:59and there's a lot of subjective reasons as well.
00:37:01Stick at it, because again,
00:37:04the choice is between giving up and staying where you are
00:37:09and keeping going.
00:37:10And things may be getting better.
00:37:12The choice seems pretty obvious to me.
00:37:14Tyler Raynot7326, "How do you approach hobbies
00:37:20outside of work?
00:37:21Any tips for not obsessing over skill
00:37:23when the initial goal was to have fun?"
00:37:25Dude, this is so good.
00:37:26So I have a friend, Justin Nault,
00:37:30and his coach gave him the task a few years ago
00:37:35of starting a hobby,
00:37:37but he wasn't allowed to try and get better at it.
00:37:40I think he started doing watercolors,
00:37:42some sort of painting or illustration.
00:37:44And as soon as he did it,
00:37:46he went and did a class maybe or sat down to do it.
00:37:49His type A overachiever brain kicked in
00:37:52and immediately said, right,
00:37:53well, I'm gonna go and watch YouTube videos
00:37:55so that I can get better at this.
00:37:56And I should research what the best watercolors are
00:37:59that I can buy online.
00:38:00And what's a specific type of brush that I need?
00:38:03And I bet there's different types of paper.
00:38:04And what I should do is I should really get a coach.
00:38:06Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:38:08The purpose of this thing was to just do the task,
00:38:13just to go through the experience
00:38:18without creating more homework
00:38:20and another barometer
00:38:22with which you can judge your worthiness
00:38:24or lack of worthiness.
00:38:25So I feel you.
00:38:29I had this with Pickleball
00:38:31and what was supposed to be a Tuesday evening
00:38:36and Thursday evening recreational pursuit
00:38:41turned into, well, Zane Navratil follows the show.
00:38:46So I should really get him to teach me how to do drills
00:38:48and a drop shot and all the rest of it.
00:38:49Yes, there is joy in getting better.
00:38:51But when that turns into a tormentor or a task master,
00:38:56one thing that you could try would be to do something
00:39:06in a group, so something where the performance
00:39:11or the outcome is a little bit more poorly defined.
00:39:14This would be a way to get around it.
00:39:16If you do Pickleball, you win or you lose at Pickleball.
00:39:20You win or you lose the point.
00:39:22You hit the net or you get the ball over the net.
00:39:24Something that's a little bit more difficult to define
00:39:26would be yoga or dance, salsa dancing
00:39:30or line dancing or something.
00:39:31Yeah, I mean, you can get the move or not get the move.
00:39:33You can look stupid or not look stupid,
00:39:35but it's just a spectrum of looking more or less stupid.
00:39:38And with yoga, there's a spectrum of it being more
00:39:41or less difficult.
00:39:42And that might be a good way around it to do things
00:39:45that have slightly less well-defined outcome goals.
00:39:50Well, you're speaking to the crowd here.
00:39:53I've done it myself with Pickleball.
00:39:55My friends have done it with watercolors.
00:39:57The overachiever mindset runs deep.
00:40:00Brown eyed girl B, where does one find a good man
00:40:04with moral values and ambition?
00:40:07He's rare in Australia.
00:40:08What the fuck is going on in Australia?
00:40:10This is two out of three questions about the dating scene.
00:40:15Maybe I was wrong.
00:40:15Maybe Australia's fucked.
00:40:17What's the birth rate in Australia?
00:40:20Chat GPT.
00:40:21Chat GPT, what is the birth rate?
00:40:24What is the birth rate in Australia?
00:40:32If this comes back at 0.4, what the fuck number is this?
00:40:371.4, okay, that's not great.
00:40:44And it's tracking the rest of the world,
00:40:47but 1.4 is not good.
00:40:501.4 rate, so 1.5, you can have that.
00:40:54Moral values, again, I feel like I'm doing a campaign
00:41:01either for or against Australia here.
00:41:02I'm either defending it or persecuting it.
00:41:05Good man with moral values and ambition.
00:41:07It's the same advice for every person who says,
00:41:11where do I find a person like dot, dot, dot?
00:41:14Think that you weren't doing this for yourself.
00:41:18Where do people like the people you want to date hang out?
00:41:23Where would they go?
00:41:25Moral values and ambition.
00:41:28Maybe at a Modern Wisdom Live event at chriswilliamson.live,
00:41:31maybe at a yoga class, maybe a meditation class,
00:41:35maybe at some sort of business mastermind or a conference,
00:41:38maybe in a library,
00:41:40maybe at some sort of run club or a meetup or something.
00:41:45Those are the kinds of places
00:41:47where people like the person that you want will hang out.
00:41:52Just go there.
00:41:53I'm amazed at how obvious this is.
00:41:58And that's not for me to say that people disregard it.
00:42:01It's just that they haven't thought about it.
00:42:03Like you're looking in places typically
00:42:06where these people don't hang out.
00:42:07So you're swiping through something with no pre-selection
00:42:09like Ryar or Tinder or Hinge,
00:42:11or you're going to bars and clubs
00:42:13because that's where people meet or something.
00:42:14Or you're doing it even at work.
00:42:16It's your work.
00:42:17Like does your work select for moral values and ambition?
00:42:20Maybe not.
00:42:21Fucking go to the places with people
00:42:23like the person you want to date.
00:42:25That's where you go.
00:42:26Ranjan Candle, 29, 24.
00:42:31Another congrats, Chris.
00:42:33Been thinking about this one for some time now.
00:42:35Do you have any tips on how to unattach
00:42:37or unlearn something or habits?
00:42:40It's a very abstract intention,
00:42:42but one I feel is very important for me to move forward.
00:42:44I cannot seem to come up with anything
00:42:46that I can put into action
00:42:47to directly influence my attachment
00:42:50with some habits and attributes of my life
00:42:52except for replacing certain things
00:42:54with focusing myself time into aspects of where I want to be
00:42:59and then go really deep,
00:43:00removing certain desires, which is extremely difficult.
00:43:02And he thought that is a fucking...
00:43:03Okay, unlearn habits.
00:43:05It is a hundred times harder to unlearn something
00:43:08than it is to learn something,
00:43:10which is why not accumulating bad habits
00:43:14is more of a priority than accumulating good ones.
00:43:18And there is no such thing as not drilling a habit.
00:43:21You are always learning a habit.
00:43:24It simply depends on what you're learning.
00:43:26In one version of the world, you wake up and go to the gym.
00:43:32And in another version of the world, you hit snooze.
00:43:34That is the habit of hitting snooze.
00:43:36There's no neutral habit, right?
00:43:39One version, you eat healthily.
00:43:42In another version, you eat neutrally, right?
00:43:45It's not unhealthily, but you eat neutrally.
00:43:47That is you drilling the neutral eating habit.
00:43:50It's not you not contributing to the habit thing.
00:43:54You have a conversation with your partner.
00:43:56This one is super regulated.
00:43:58This one is super shouty.
00:43:59And then you have one which is kind of a little bit detached.
00:44:02It's not super dysregulated, but it's not your best self.
00:44:05Any one of those is drilling more of that thing.
00:44:08So first off, unlearning habits is not a small task.
00:44:13Secondly, my current belief around this,
00:44:16I'm sure that there's a way
00:44:18to actively unlearn the habit, deprogramming stuff,
00:44:22maybe the NMDR thing that eye tracking shit,
00:44:27maybe that might work, NSDR.
00:44:31I get the sense that the best way
00:44:34is just to get a better habit,
00:44:36a stronger habit with deeper grooves cut into it.
00:44:39So I think about human behavior
00:44:41kind of like water moving through a landscape.
00:44:44And there is a path of least resistance
00:44:46that the water cuts through.
00:44:47And that is typically some combination of effort and pattern.
00:44:52So how hard or easy is this thing to do?
00:44:56Generally, independently of how much you've done it before
00:44:59and how much have you done it before.
00:45:02If something is, it is always going to be easier
00:45:04to stay in bed than it is to go to the gym.
00:45:06And if you have stayed in bed a lot,
00:45:08that groove is going to be cut more deeply.
00:45:11All that you need to do is build a groove
00:45:14which is even deeper than that.
00:45:15And unfortunately, that means doing the hard thing.
00:45:17That means applying a fucking ton of effort
00:45:19to rip this new habit off the launch pad,
00:45:22one inch at a time, and you're going to fail.
00:45:23The best rule for this is don't miss two days in a row
00:45:26because one day missed is a mistake,
00:45:28but two days missed is the start of a new habit.
00:45:30Set that rule.
00:45:31Don't miss two days in a row, do the new thing.
00:45:33And what is the opposite of the habit
00:45:35that you want to get rid of?
00:45:36If you don't want to scroll on your phone at night,
00:45:38the phone needs to be outside of your bedroom.
00:45:40And if you don't scroll on your phone at night,
00:45:43every single day that you put a repetition in
00:45:46where you don't do that is you drilling that habit.
00:45:48Now, will the old habit always be there
00:45:50lurking in the background
00:45:51like a monster hiding in the cupboard?
00:45:52Yeah, probably.
00:45:53And that is going to suck.
00:45:55But over a long enough amount of time,
00:45:57I get the sense that you can drill those grooves so deep
00:46:01that even if the other one has some patterns
00:46:03and objectively is easier to do,
00:46:06it's the most seductive, low friction one,
00:46:09I still think that you can beat it
00:46:10by just building new habits.
00:46:11So honestly, unlearning for me
00:46:14is all about relearning, basically,
00:46:17or overwriting what it was that you did previously
00:46:21with something new.
00:46:22I'm yet to find a way to unlearn anything
00:46:25that doesn't involve doing something else instead.
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00:47:12The Big Lad Podcast.
00:47:15What do you see wrong in the hustle culture,
00:47:17especially coming from the podcast space?
00:47:19Yeah, man, I mean, I have not become,
00:47:23I'm definitely not flavor of the month with that world.
00:47:28The fuck your feelings just work harder thing.
00:47:36I don't know whether there's been anyone
00:47:39who's done more of a rail against it
00:47:42over the last 12 months than me.
00:47:44So many of the episodes that I've done
00:47:47are me trying to show the importance of emotion
00:47:52and connection and resonance with what you're doing
00:47:59as opposed to just working until your eyes bleed.
00:48:02Now, the problem with this is
00:48:04if you're somebody who has gone through the ringer
00:48:07and come out the other side speaking to people
00:48:10who for the most part, which is almost everybody,
00:48:12are still on their grind,
00:48:14it sounds an awful lot like me talking from an ivory tower
00:48:18about how basically pulling the ladder
00:48:20of hard work up after me.
00:48:22And that's a really difficult tight rope to walk.
00:48:24And it's one that I've realized I essentially can't do.
00:48:28I can't tell people to work less hard.
00:48:30What I can do is say,
00:48:31"Hey, this is a place that I think you're going to get to
00:48:34during this journey that you're on."
00:48:38Or at least it's one that I got to.
00:48:39What do I see is wrong in hustle culture
00:48:43coming from the podcast space?
00:48:44It is a total disregard of how you feel
00:48:47over a long period of time.
00:48:50Ignoring how you feel is super powerful
00:48:54and literally a superpower.
00:49:00But presumably the reason that you're working hard
00:49:03is eventually to get to a state where you feel good.
00:49:07And if you start to reach escape velocity
00:49:13from all of the work that you did
00:49:16and from needing to do the work
00:49:17and you're still tormenting yourself
00:49:19to never actually connect with your emotions
00:49:24and to not slow down if your body tells you to slow down,
00:49:26to not enjoy it if your body tells you to enjoy it,
00:49:29you will become very successful and very miserable.
00:49:34What is your definition of success?
00:49:37Mine is not to look back
00:49:40on a series of miserable successes.
00:49:42So that's one of them.
00:49:44There's quite a few more.
00:49:46I think unfortunately there is a transactional nature
00:49:51to a lot of the friendships that are kind of proposed.
00:49:59You're supposed to only hang with people
00:50:01for as long as they're of service to you or useful to you,
00:50:03even if they're useful in contrast or in sort of regulation.
00:50:07Should you be with people that make you feel good
00:50:10and are energy inflows?
00:50:11Yeah, absolutely.
00:50:11But speaking as someone who's spent two decades networking,
00:50:16hardcore networking, which I never talk about,
00:50:20but my entire last life was that,
00:50:22and the only way that a podcast grows
00:50:24is by you getting yourself into the right rooms
00:50:26and for the right people to know you.
00:50:29Treating people like commodities
00:50:32that you trade and trade up and get in with and ignore,
00:50:36and it does not go well.
00:50:38It will not go well.
00:50:39So those are two issues.
00:50:41Brad Cooper, 1343.
00:50:44After listening to your recent episode,
00:50:45I found myself grappling with a question
00:50:47that has occupied much of my thinking lately.
00:50:49How does one reconcile the tension
00:50:50between unfulfilled potential and contentment?
00:50:53As an ambitious 23 year old who has recently qualified
00:50:55in what society would deem a successful career,
00:50:58I find myself paradoxically dissatisfied
00:51:00despite these achievements.
00:51:01I recognize the harder work required for further advancement,
00:51:04yet I consistently defer it.
00:51:06I'm caught in a persistent internal conflict.
00:51:09I possess clarity about what's necessary to progress,
00:51:11yet I fail to execute.
00:51:13I find myself succumbing to procrastination
00:51:15and squandering time, all while maintaining
00:51:17an acute awareness of its irreplaceable value.
00:51:20This disconnect between my stated values
00:51:22and my actual behavior has become increasingly difficult
00:51:24to rationalize.
00:51:26That is question of the fucking day.
00:51:30Dude, congratulations, you win.
00:51:31Question of the Q&A.
00:51:34That is a wonderfully written question.
00:51:36So first off, you should try a career as a writer
00:51:38because that is beautiful.
00:51:40How do I reconcile the tension
00:51:41between unfulfilled potential and contentment?
00:51:44You're ambitious, you've qualified,
00:51:47you're dissatisfied with what you've achieved so far,
00:51:52you know that you need to work harder
00:51:53in order to advance further,
00:51:55and yet you're putting it off.
00:51:57There's conflict, you know what you need to do,
00:51:59yet you don't execute.
00:52:00You're procrastinating and squandering time
00:52:02whilst also feeling fear and pain
00:52:05at the fact that you've done it.
00:52:06It's irreplaceable, and the disconnect
00:52:07between your stated values and your actual behavior
00:52:09has become increasingly difficult to rationalize.
00:52:12This is one of the fucking perennial
00:52:14personal growth challenges.
00:52:17I've done something that's supposed to be really satisfying
00:52:20to me and yet I was objectively there
00:52:25and subjectively absent is a way
00:52:28that you could think about it.
00:52:30Holy shit, I did the thing.
00:52:32Hang on, why didn't I feel anything?
00:52:36Why are you looking around?
00:52:38Oh, that's, it's, more, I need more.
00:52:42It wasn't one gold medal.
00:52:45It was, I have to do it twice
00:52:47because I need to prove that it wasn't,
00:52:48ah, it wasn't two, it was, 'cause two, it's three.
00:52:52That is the human condition.
00:52:54The perpetual chase is the human condition.
00:52:57If you caught an animal or gathered some berries
00:53:01or protected your tribe once and were perfectly satisfied,
00:53:06you would be very dead very soon.
00:53:10First off, this is how you are wired.
00:53:13You are wired to always achieve more.
00:53:15If you're the sort of person who is a type A overachiever,
00:53:18like it sounds like you are, this is going to be even more.
00:53:22It's gonna be tuned up because in the modern world,
00:53:25you can make objective stuff which used to be subjective.
00:53:27We have quantified status in terms of followers,
00:53:30qualifications, we have quantified resources, it's money.
00:53:35And you can even compare it with somebody in China
00:53:37or Taiwan or England.
00:53:42The need to work harder with the deferment of it,
00:53:47to me, there's a little bit,
00:53:50there's two things going on.
00:53:53One is you're dissatisfied with what you've achieved.
00:53:56And the second thing is you want to work harder
00:53:59and you're upset that you're not.
00:54:01I get the sense that these two things might be linked.
00:54:04If you allowed yourself to celebrate your wins
00:54:08a little bit more, I feel like you would be motivated
00:54:10to go and achieve the next thing.
00:54:12But at the moment, you worked hard, achieved a thing,
00:54:17didn't feel satisfaction about it.
00:54:20And are now asking, why can't I make myself work harder
00:54:23to go and achieve a thing that is based on current evidence
00:54:26just going to make me miserable again or be unfulfilling?
00:54:29That doesn't seem to be the way,
00:54:32if you were training a dog,
00:54:34that wouldn't be the way that you trained the dog.
00:54:36It did something good, I didn't reward it.
00:54:38I'm trying to get it to do something else good.
00:54:40Why is it not listening to me?
00:54:42Well, you didn't ever reward it
00:54:45about the thing that it did first.
00:54:47So solutions for this,
00:54:49I can spew pithy fucking hormones aphorisms at you all day.
00:54:53The first thing, celebrate micro wins,
00:54:57especially with friends.
00:54:58If you've qualified in what society
00:55:01would deem as a successful career,
00:55:02did you go out and celebrate?
00:55:03Did you make a big deal out of it?
00:55:05Did you encourage your friends to make a big deal out of it?
00:55:07So it's Zack Telander's album launch party
00:55:10in a week and a half,
00:55:11and you should go and pre-save it on Spotify
00:55:13'cause it's fucking awesome, it rips.
00:55:15That is the day that I fly back from St. Louis,
00:55:21St. Louis, St. Louis.
00:55:23I'm going to throw him an album launch party.
00:55:26Maybe it's going to be at my house.
00:55:27Maybe I'll put it at a bar somewhere.
00:55:29I want to do that for him.
00:55:30I mean, that's obviously, his album launch is huge.
00:55:32But you, 23 year olds, you recently qualified in a career
00:55:35that society would deem as successful.
00:55:36Like that, you should be celebrating that.
00:55:38And the same thing goes for, you bought your first house,
00:55:41it's your birthday, you got a promotion, you made the sale.
00:55:45You didn't get, like just, there is no,
00:55:48as far as I can see, there is no achievement too small
00:55:51to be worthy of celebrating.
00:55:52And the threshold that we have to hit,
00:55:54we believe that we have to hit in order
00:55:55to say that we're going to celebrate about something,
00:55:57just keeps on being raised.
00:55:58And I think that that's bullshit.
00:55:59So the first thing, celebrate micro wins.
00:56:01Second thing, ask yourself, really,
00:56:04what is the price that I would need to pay
00:56:05in order to get to the next level?
00:56:06Like really, really ask yourself, what would that look like?
00:56:09And do you want it?
00:56:11Do you really, really want it?
00:56:13A much more difficult thing to face might be,
00:56:16well, maybe you don't want it that much.
00:56:18You recognize the harder work
00:56:19and yet you constantly defer it.
00:56:21Maybe you don't want it that much.
00:56:24And that's okay.
00:56:25You have worked really hard to get to the career
00:56:29and recently qualify.
00:56:30You've really sort of had to work aggressively.
00:56:35I don't think that it's you leaving things on the table.
00:56:38If you're able to work hard and you're only 23,
00:56:40something tells me that you've got a huge amount of runway
00:56:42to just keep on sending it,
00:56:44but maybe you're pointing in the wrong direction.
00:56:46And that's a really difficult question too.
00:56:48What was one of the first questions today?
00:56:51Somebody who doesn't feel like
00:56:53they're moving in the right direction.
00:56:55It feels like they did all of the things, got to the place
00:56:59and now maybe they don't want it anymore.
00:57:01That is a really difficult position to be in.
00:57:03It is way easier actually to say, I'm on the right path.
00:57:07I'm just too unmotivated than, oh fuck.
00:57:10I climbed up a ladder and it's against the wrong wall
00:57:13and I need to climb back down and start again.
00:57:15So ask yourself, do you really, really want it?
00:57:17If you do really genuinely 100% want it,
00:57:21not just because of loss aversion or fucking momentum
00:57:25or sunk cost fallacy.
00:57:26If you really, really want it,
00:57:28what are the steps required to get there?
00:57:31And then send it, like go for it.
00:57:34That's when you can actively say that you're being a pussy.
00:57:37You're being a pussy if you genuinely want something,
00:57:39you've got all of the capacity to go and get it
00:57:42and you're choosing not to because of a lack of resilience
00:57:45or laziness or whatever.
00:57:46But also if you're not allowing yourself
00:57:49to celebrate the wins along the way,
00:57:51what the fuck are you doing it for?
00:57:52Like, what's the point?
00:57:53How are you motivating yourself?
00:57:55So I love your question.
00:57:57It's a problem that a lot of people deal with.
00:57:59I think you need to pat yourself on the back more.
00:58:02Make sure that you're pointing in the right direction.
00:58:04And if so, take a fucking flame thrower to the candle
00:58:07and burn all of the ends of it.
00:58:09That's how I do it.
00:58:10Martin Lendes, questioning things, awareness of self
00:58:15and long-term conscious thinking seem rare.
00:58:17Why?
00:58:19Because they're hard.
00:58:20Because it's effortful.
00:58:25Because it is easier to hide in momentum
00:58:29and to outsource to the crowd.
00:58:32To rely on the paths that other people follow
00:58:37rather than having to determine your own.
00:58:39Awareness of self is terrifying
00:58:43because you regularly ask the question,
00:58:46what if I'm doing it wrong?
00:58:48That feels uncomfortable.
00:58:50It's much easier to continue down a path
00:58:53that is the wrong direction than it is to stop
00:58:57and ask about whether or not you're pointing
00:58:59in the wrong direction.
00:59:00I mean, it could be the same question as I just answered.
00:59:04The way that I see it,
00:59:09if you're the sort of person who asks the why question,
00:59:12you don't have a choice about whether or not
00:59:19your self-awareness is going to be there.
00:59:23It is going to be there.
00:59:25You really only have the choice about whether or not
00:59:28you're going to become friends with it.
00:59:29And given that it is going to be there forever,
00:59:34you might as well become friends with it.
00:59:36Genuinely, treat it like a welcome visitor in your house
00:59:41or like a couch that you can't get rid of or something.
00:59:44Okay, that is a fixture.
00:59:46The fact that I question,
00:59:47the fact I've got awareness of self,
00:59:49the fact that I have long-term conscious thinking,
00:59:52all right, that's a part of me.
00:59:53How can I use that to my advantage?
00:59:55And what are the areas in which it's no longer,
00:59:57or it should not be applicable?
01:00:00Unlearning things is a hundred times harder
01:00:06than learning them.
01:00:06And this is even deeper because it was never learned.
01:00:10Typically it was never learned.
01:00:11It's part of your programming.
01:00:12So it's like you opening up the terminal on your MacBook
01:00:14and trying to undo the source code.
01:00:16Like I just, I don't think that you can do it.
01:00:18So it's rare because it's hard and it slows people down
01:00:23and it makes them seem less cohesive from the outside.
01:00:27I've got an episode with Charlie Hooper coming up soon,
01:00:29which is so good and all about this.
01:00:31So I'd advise listening to that.
01:00:33Taylor Markser, favorite Sleep Token song.
01:00:37Thank you for getting me into them.
01:00:38Dude, the number of people that come up to me
01:00:41and say I was the person that introed them to Sleep Token.
01:00:44I think I've talked about them on the show.
01:00:46I've won the t-shirts.
01:00:47I think the first time I ever did it was I shared the album
01:00:51on the newsletter.
01:00:53And I mean, it's a huge credit to the fact
01:00:58that they are so resonant and so good
01:01:03and obviously emotionally connect with so many people
01:01:06that a little suggestion creates a huge outsized impact.
01:01:11And it becomes such a big part of people's lives
01:01:15that they're then able to say you, Chris, gave me this gift.
01:01:20I'm like made you aware of somebody
01:01:23who created a gift perhaps.
01:01:25But yeah, favorite Sleep Token song.
01:01:27It Changes, Missing Limbs is one.
01:01:29Euclid is another.
01:01:31I think the final track of basically album one
01:01:36and album three, those are two.
01:01:40Are You Really Okay?
01:01:45Caramel, although it's so earworm-y
01:01:47that I can't get rid of it.
01:01:48And I just didn't like the last 45 seconds of that song.
01:01:52I didn't.
01:01:55I didn't like it.
01:01:56Those are three.
01:01:59Those are three.
01:02:00If I had to pick one today, Euclid,
01:02:02'cause Zach sent it to me earlier.
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01:03:02Sun Motes, what's your current morning routine?
01:03:05What are some protocols you do weekly?
01:03:07I'm getting back into very rigid morning routine.
01:03:12For people that are relatively new to the show,
01:03:14I did this stupidly opulent, very luxurious bourgeois,
01:03:19retarded solo monk mode thing for a long time.
01:03:23It was three hours long, basically.
01:03:26Get up, walk, journal, breath work, meditate,
01:03:29read, yoga, prep food,
01:03:35train, although you're kind of out of morning routine then.
01:03:39But anyway, by the time that I'd got back from training,
01:03:41it basically been three hours.
01:03:42And then I would begin my day.
01:03:43Is that ridiculously out of touch?
01:03:49Is that undoable for most people?
01:03:50Yes, as the internet's told me a million times.
01:03:53Did it detox me from a very, very long time
01:03:58of never looking inwardly and never having quiet
01:04:01and never slowing down
01:04:02and never asking myself what I thought?
01:04:04Yes, both of those things are true.
01:04:06I had a lot of unearthing to do.
01:04:08I was in a very fortunate situation to do it,
01:04:10but I don't fucking care that it somehow feels unfair
01:04:15that I had the opportunity to do that.
01:04:18Would you rather me disregard the opportunity
01:04:21that I had to do it and go straight into scrolling
01:04:25or imagine that I had to raise a kid
01:04:27that I didn't have simply because...
01:04:30It is such a stupid argument to say,
01:04:34"Oh, I'll try and do that with..."
01:04:35I get it.
01:04:36I'm not saying that you should do it.
01:04:37I'm simply saying that that's what I did.
01:04:39And that was my life situation.
01:04:41These are the same people who will say,
01:04:44"I got married at 25 and we've had beautiful kids
01:04:48and all of these things are amazing."
01:04:49I'm like, "Well, good, lucky for you to say
01:04:51I was stuck doing a morning routine."
01:04:53People have chosen different life paths.
01:04:56There have been opportunities and challenges
01:04:57presented to each person that has done that.
01:04:59Some of those life paths have been imposed on us.
01:05:02Some of those life paths, we have chosen ourselves.
01:05:05Morning routine, right now, I'm getting stuck back into it.
01:05:07Get up at six, six-ish.
01:05:11Walk with my turbo nonce glasses on
01:05:14because the sun's not rising yet.
01:05:17Come back.
01:05:19Ohm, breath work, HRV, resonance breathing, Ohm.health.
01:05:23These lamps are so fucking good, dude.
01:05:25Resonance breathing is gonna be the next big thing.
01:05:28I can already see it.
01:05:30It's super cool.
01:05:31It is basically hypertrophy training for your vagus nerve
01:05:34and I think it's awesome.
01:05:36So I do between 10 and 20 minutes
01:05:38of resonance breathing using the Ohm.
01:05:41Then meditation, insight timer, unguided,
01:05:46doing Shinzen Young's Five Ways to Know Yourself,
01:05:49which is really the only unguided meditation I know.
01:05:53I might try and get into jhana meditation soon.
01:05:56Johnny Miller is threatening to teach me
01:05:59and to put me in touch with one of the best teachers.
01:06:01That would be really cool.
01:06:02And I'll probably do an episode about it if I start doing it.
01:06:04If I do guided, I use Waking Up from Sam Harris.
01:06:07Then I'll read usually for about 10 minutes
01:06:09and that's pretty much an hour.
01:06:11That brings me into land at around about an hour.
01:06:13Is that ridiculous and out of touch?
01:06:17Probably, but I don't care.
01:06:20All of those things are things that I need to do
01:06:25at some point during the day
01:06:26and stacking your morning routine with a ton of the thing.
01:06:29This is where I disagree with Hormozhi's take
01:06:33that spending lots of time to get ready to work
01:06:36is less efficient than just getting into work.
01:06:38I agree if your only goal is to get into work.
01:06:41But if you were to say, I need to do breath work
01:06:44and meditate and go for a walk and read,
01:06:47there is no easier time to do any of those things
01:06:50than on a morning.
01:06:50One of the best ways to do habits is to stack them together.
01:06:53And as soon as you open up your phone,
01:06:55it makes everything harder.
01:06:57So if you can just give yourself an hour on a morning
01:06:59to do whatever it is that you want to do.
01:07:01But for me, that is a supercharged day.
01:07:05I've got some movement in and some light in my eyes.
01:07:09I've done some breath work,
01:07:10which has got nervous system dialed
01:07:13and also makes the meditation better.
01:07:14I've meditated and I've learned something.
01:07:16And then if I go straight from that into training
01:07:19and I'm training with somebody,
01:07:20or a training partner or a coach or whatever,
01:07:24I try to teach them and explain to them
01:07:27one thing that I read that morning.
01:07:31That just locks in so much of the learning
01:07:34as opposed to it being a bit more passive.
01:07:36It means that I always read stuff
01:07:38that I'm really interested in
01:07:39'cause I'm excited to talk to somebody about it.
01:07:42It fucking rules, dude.
01:07:43That this morning routine I've got right now, I love.
01:07:45And it's not that hard to stick to.
01:07:49So highly recommend.
01:07:51Nico Bronze, why do women leave you
01:07:55the moment you start loving them?
01:07:57Fuck me, that's dark.
01:07:58There is a certain category of people
01:08:02who only see value in something which is hard to get.
01:08:07It's a playground dynamic that I want what I can't have.
01:08:15And as soon as that thing feels like it's available to me,
01:08:19there's a strange ick
01:08:25that starts to build inside of people.
01:08:27That is a very undeveloped approach
01:08:36to understanding the value of humans.
01:08:39And it's a shame.
01:08:42And it's not universal.
01:08:45So some women will leave
01:08:47when they feel like you're no longer a challenge.
01:08:50And some men will leave
01:08:52when they feel like you're no longer a challenge.
01:08:55They're not the partners that you want in your life.
01:08:59I know it hurts and I know that it sucks.
01:09:01And it's a horrible trick of human nature and our psychology
01:09:06that things that are hard to get are seen as more valuable.
01:09:10But that is not the person
01:09:14that you want to be in a relationship with at all.
01:09:17Because that dynamic was going to come out now
01:09:22or when you got engaged or when you got a dog
01:09:25or when you got married or when you had your first kid
01:09:28or when you lost your job or when they lost theirs
01:09:31or when you got a promotion or when you got ill.
01:09:34You've been saved.
01:09:37You've been saved by somebody
01:09:39who wasn't sufficiently emotionally developed
01:09:41to be able to hold you.
01:09:43Switching off when the challenge was no longer there.
01:09:53It's really tough and whoever has felt this dynamic
01:09:57and it's so constant, right?
01:10:00This, I want it when it's difficult.
01:10:04I think part of the,
01:10:07part of the underlying assumption here
01:10:13is that that person doesn't feel like
01:10:17they're particularly worthy.
01:10:19If you had high self-esteem, I don't think
01:10:24that you would be turned off by somebody liking you.
01:10:28I think what is being revealed there
01:10:33is not somebody's judgment about you,
01:10:37somebody's judgment about themselves.
01:10:40That if somebody doesn't see in themselves
01:10:48a human that is lovable, when they are loved,
01:10:53they don't ask, they don't think this is amazing.
01:10:59They ask what is wrong with you
01:11:01that you like me in a way that I don't like myself.
01:11:05I'm sorry, but there are an endless number
01:11:08of women out there who are not going to behave like this.
01:11:11And they're probably in the comments now asking who you are.
01:11:16And, and don't mean to victim blame,
01:11:21but why do women leave you as in more than one,
01:11:23as in multiple, as in this has happened to you quite a bit?
01:11:26You are choosing these women.
01:11:28So there is something about your selection criteria
01:11:31that is causing this to happen.
01:11:33So have an ask of what it is that you're looking for
01:11:38and why that keeps being something that you're selecting for
01:11:47in a hidden manner, even if you don't want it
01:11:49and you don't know that it's going to happen,
01:11:51you are choosing these women.
01:11:54So scrutinize appropriately next time.
01:11:58Daniel K. Real Estate, help us find a cure for ME/CFS.
01:12:04Dude, fucking, I would love that.
01:12:07Chronic fatigue is so ruthless, man.
01:12:11I got a message off physics goal.
01:12:14Amy, someone, somebody physics goal.
01:12:18And I watched her video and her video
01:12:21was the final straw justification
01:12:25for me releasing my first health vlog.
01:12:28And she DMed me this week and basically said
01:12:33that she'd seen, she'd seen, it was like the human centipede,
01:12:35but it was just two people like this.
01:12:37She'd seen mine and she was, she felt less alone
01:12:40and I'd seen hers and that was the reason that I did it.
01:12:43So it was cool, so much more research
01:12:46needs to be done into this.
01:12:47It is fucking insane that there are people
01:12:50who don't even know that they're struggling
01:12:54with chronic fatigue.
01:12:55And it's just, oh, this is part of getting older.
01:12:59This is just the by-product of becoming a,
01:13:01it is fucking not, dude.
01:13:04Yes, aging is a real thing.
01:13:05Yes, you locally reverse entropy.
01:13:07Yes, the universe is trying to crush you
01:13:09into tiny little smithereens.
01:13:10Fuck you, nobody's stopping.
01:13:12This is not the way that you're supposed to feel.
01:13:14And it is a silent epidemic that is absolutely
01:13:16wrecking people.
01:13:18I feel because I'm still in it,
01:13:23it feels weird for me to start trying to do
01:13:28some sort of power campaigning thing for it.
01:13:32I can see at some point in future me really getting deep
01:13:36into probably to start mold, making mold testing more,
01:13:42available more convenient,
01:13:43making the protocols more widely known
01:13:46because I think a lot of people are dealing
01:13:47with toxic mold exposure that don't know about it.
01:13:50Maybe as many, if not more than are dealing
01:13:53with chronic fatigue.
01:13:54But I got to, like the FBI's most wanted list,
01:13:57I've got a hit list of things once I get out
01:13:59the other side of this that I really want to try
01:14:02and take the head off.
01:14:03And ME/CFS is on there, so I'll try.
01:14:08Dakkuma7255, how and why do you have such big forearms
01:14:13like Popeye?
01:14:14I do have, I do have slightly chunky forearms.
01:14:22I don't know.
01:14:24It's genetic.
01:14:25I've trained them a total of twice directly.
01:14:30Both times were captured on video and both times
01:14:32with Mike Israel last year.
01:14:35Everybody's got one body part that is just freakish
01:14:39and grows no matter what you do to it.
01:14:41Some people's shoulders, some people's glutes,
01:14:42some people's calves.
01:14:43For me, it's forearms.
01:14:46And it's good, except for when you need to wear a suit
01:14:50or a shirt, then it's a nightmare.
01:14:53Navid1759, being the introspective person that you are,
01:14:59was it hard to form intellectually engaging friendships
01:15:01in the transitional phases of your life
01:15:03when old friends are not immediately available anymore?
01:15:05Thanks for being the beacon of authenticity
01:15:08in the age of mediocrity.
01:15:09Your cognitive flexibility is both an object
01:15:11of my admiration and an ideal I aim for.
01:15:14Respect, sir.
01:15:15Thank you, Navid.
01:15:16It's hard to form intellectually engaging friendships
01:15:22full stop because of that question that somebody asked
01:15:25earlier on, which is, why is it rare for people
01:15:29to be thoughtful and have long-term thinking,
01:15:33reflective, it is just hard full stop.
01:15:36But it's particularly hard in transitional phases
01:15:38because of the lonely chapter.
01:15:40You're different, you're moving on.
01:15:43You can't resonate with your old set of friends,
01:15:45but you're not yet in the place where you are so developed
01:15:48that you've built your new set of friends.
01:15:49And during these transitional phases,
01:15:52you're very incongruent, kind of obsessed with this idea
01:15:54of congruence at the moment.
01:15:56So thoughts and actions and beliefs all aligning.
01:16:02You know where you're going, you know how to do the things
01:16:06that are required to get there,
01:16:08and you're not doubting yourself in the process.
01:16:11When you're going through a transitional period,
01:16:14all that you are is doubt.
01:16:16You've left behind the things that used to give you
01:16:20a sense of satisfaction and reassurance.
01:16:23You haven't yet got to the stage
01:16:25where you know what the new ones are.
01:16:26You don't have the skills of the new ones
01:16:28and the skills of the old life are left behind,
01:16:32that they're useless.
01:16:33And you're just asking, you're swimming in this milieu
01:16:37of uncertainty and it tarnishes the whole process
01:16:40and it's not fucking fun at all.
01:16:41This is the journey of personal growth.
01:16:45The journey of personal growth is not,
01:16:46at least 50% of it is asking what the fuck am I doing?
01:16:52And then the other 50% of it is doing
01:16:54the fuck that you're doing.
01:16:56Especially if you move quickly.
01:17:01So I'm in another transitional phase at the moment.
01:17:04I am going from passive to active,
01:17:08which was, I don't know, 26 to 32.
01:17:13That was that period, 27 to 32,
01:17:15was going from passive to active.
01:17:17Asking myself questions, who do I want to be?
01:17:19What does that consist of?
01:17:20Learning agency, taking control of myself.
01:17:23Grabbing life by the nuts and doing the thing.
01:17:28And then that was good up until about 18 months ago.
01:17:33And then I tried to,
01:17:35I am currently still trying to make the transition
01:17:37passive to active and now active to emotional.
01:17:40And that, from the outside,
01:17:45that objectively should be evolution,
01:17:47but from the outside and from the inside,
01:17:49it feels like devolution.
01:17:50It feels like going back to where I was.
01:17:52Because all of the fuck your feelings bro, just work harder.
01:17:57Use more caffeine, sleep less.
01:18:00Forget how you feel.
01:18:02Disconnect from what is happening below the neck.
01:18:07Don't care about whether the success was or was not worth it.
01:18:10You'll just stay on mission.
01:18:12Rationality, ruthless single-minded focus, largely solo.
01:18:18All of those lessons that take you from passive to active
01:18:23are no longer usable when you go from active to emotional.
01:18:27And it's way harder because you're trying to heal
01:18:30all of the patterns that you only just started to rely on.
01:18:33And the world gave you all of this fucking admiration
01:18:36for doing it.
01:18:37And from the outside, what it looks like
01:18:38is someone who doesn't know what the fuck they're doing
01:18:40and who wants to be around that person?
01:18:43So no matter whether you're going from victim to agent
01:18:48or agent to healer, passive to active, active to emotion.
01:18:54At each stage, your congruence is out of the window.
01:18:57You don't have the same tools that you used to.
01:19:00You don't have the support group that you did.
01:19:02Yes, it was hard.
01:19:03This is a long answer to a relatively short question.
01:19:06Yes, it was hard to form intellectually engaging friendships.
01:19:10Because you don't necessarily know what you like.
01:19:13What you want is other people who are also
01:19:15in this transitional period.
01:19:17They're trying to cross the river from one bank to another
01:19:19at the same time.
01:19:20I'm fortunate that I just lucked out, George, Zach,
01:19:25Yusuf and Johnny from the UK.
01:19:28A lot of the people, Luke, James, a lot of the people
01:19:31are pretty much at the same trajectory that I am
01:19:34and facing the same challenges at the same speed.
01:19:36Charlie, who puts another one of those?
01:19:37Dr. K is another one.
01:19:38These people keep appearing.
01:19:41And then there's people that are further ahead.
01:19:42Joe Hudson, Dr. K probably as well.
01:19:45It's tough, dude.
01:19:49Just stay the course.
01:19:50I'm aware that the Rocky cut scene was three minutes
01:19:53in the movie and it's been four and a half years for you.
01:19:55But again, the choice is between giving up
01:19:58and staying where you are or keeping going
01:20:02and maybe getting to the next level.
01:20:04Eric Grillo, what part of your life became worse
01:20:09as you became more optimized?
01:20:11And how do you decide when optimization has gone too far?
01:20:14What part of your life became worse
01:20:15as you became more optimized?
01:20:20Sleep is a good example of this.
01:20:23There was a wonderful study done where two groups
01:20:28were brought into a sleep lab.
01:20:29One group was paid based on how quickly
01:20:31they could fall asleep and the other group was not.
01:20:34Guess which group fell asleep faster?
01:20:37The group which wasn't paid.
01:20:39Because sleep is one of these weird things in life,
01:20:42like being ill sometimes and having limited capacity,
01:20:45where trying harder makes it work.
01:20:47There are very few situations in life
01:20:48where trying harder makes something worse.
01:20:50But trying harder makes going to sleep worse.
01:20:55If you can't force yourself to sleep,
01:20:57that is the antithesis of what you need to do,
01:20:58which is relax.
01:20:59And this is how people get into insomnia spirals.
01:21:02They're scared of the pillow.
01:21:04When they get into bed,
01:21:05they know that they're not gonna fall asleep.
01:21:06Well, here it is, it's happening again.
01:21:07I'm not gonna, I'm gonna be so tired tomorrow.
01:21:09You should fall asleep.
01:21:10Why can't I fall asleep?
01:21:11I'm gonna do the thing.
01:21:11Also, the stress of trying to be perfect
01:21:15probably will kill you more quickly than your imperfections.
01:21:18There is a limit to this.
01:21:19The stress of trying to perfect your non-cocaine addiction,
01:21:24probably a good idea.
01:21:26Trying to perfect your reduction of your gambling habit,
01:21:32also probably a good idea.
01:21:34But most people are going from zero to one,
01:21:35not minus one to zero.
01:21:37The over-optimizers are over-optimizing,
01:21:41not just optimizing.
01:21:42Sleep is one of them.
01:21:47Training is actually another one of them.
01:21:49That what you want,
01:21:51and I think that the broad rule here is that
01:21:53optimization often removes enjoyment
01:21:58because you start to do what is prescriptively preferred
01:22:02as opposed to what the vibe tells you is most enjoyable.
01:22:08But ultimately the biggest determinant
01:22:10of any optimization protocol is compliance.
01:22:14And compliance is usually determined
01:22:17by how you feel about it.
01:22:19So what you should do is get close to right-ish
01:22:23and then exclusively optimize for enjoyment.
01:22:26'Cause first off, it's gonna be more enjoyable,
01:22:27which is the whole fucking reason
01:22:28that you're here on the planet.
01:22:29But secondly, it means that you're gonna be
01:22:31more likely to stick to it.
01:22:33So you're gonna do the thing more,
01:22:36which will gain you more results
01:22:38than trying to squeeze out an extra few percent
01:22:41or maybe even many percents per iteration,
01:22:46but way reduce down your compliance.
01:22:48So that would be a good way to decide
01:22:51when optimization has gone too far,
01:22:53when stuff stops being fun, when it stops being enjoyable.
01:22:55Not everything is going to be enjoyable,
01:22:57but let's say that going to the gym used to be great
01:23:01because you trained on an evening time
01:23:03and you had a great training partner
01:23:04and everything was awesome.
01:23:05But then you learned that training on a morning,
01:23:07actually you've got 5% more motor units,
01:23:10recruitable, and it means that your caffeine intake
01:23:13and your beta-alanine, and you can get
01:23:15the post-workout window for your nutrition dialed in.
01:23:18So you stop training with your friend,
01:23:19you start training on a morning.
01:23:20Have you, you have optimized the iteration,
01:23:23but you have completely reduced down
01:23:26the likelihood of you sticking with it over time.
01:23:27Or you're gonna use that willpower,
01:23:28you're gonna have to tap into willpower,
01:23:30or it's just fucking less enjoyable.
01:23:32So sleep and training,
01:23:34two areas that you can easily over-optimize.
01:23:36I'm sure that there's tons more.
01:23:38And deciding when optimization's gone too far,
01:23:41but there's probably a way better answer than this,
01:23:43but I get the sense that when stuff stops being fun,
01:23:46that's a good place to begin.
01:23:49The fun bin.
01:23:52Hey Chris, I've been following you for years.
01:23:53Thank you for leading by example and turning pro
01:23:56and showing up so consistently.
01:23:57Thank you.
01:23:58I'm 41, going through yet another breakup
01:24:00and struggle to feel I am enough financially.
01:24:03I'm fit, funny in my own way,
01:24:04a little neurotic, attentive, attractive, and caring,
01:24:07but I fear my lack of industriousness
01:24:09is pushing women away after their initial swooning period.
01:24:11Do I need to be exceptionally financially successful
01:24:14to keep a girlfriend?
01:24:16That's a good question.
01:24:17I think lots of, guys will often fall
01:24:23into one of two categories.
01:24:25The sort of objectively successful,
01:24:27but subjectively don't seem to have what is needed
01:24:31for women to feel good about them.
01:24:33But you're in a different camp.
01:24:34You're in the camp that seems to be subjectively
01:24:37pretty dialed, but objectively, at least in one area,
01:24:41the resource provisioning, struggling.
01:24:43Look, for each of these different buckets,
01:24:49the more of them that you can fill, the better.
01:24:51You do not need to be exceptionally financially successful
01:24:55to keep a girlfriend.
01:24:57But if you were financially successful,
01:25:00your potential market, your TAM, would probably open up
01:25:04a little more.
01:25:05Now, do you want a girlfriend who is very sensitive
01:25:08to your financial successfulness?
01:25:11If not, this is actually, in a weird way,
01:25:13gonna be a good selection criteria
01:25:15because you're going to choose a girl
01:25:16who is very, very unmaterialistic
01:25:18'cause you ain't got no materials to give her.
01:25:20I would say if you've got, presumably,
01:25:27it sounds like initial swooning period,
01:25:29and then you're laying at the feet
01:25:31of your lack of industriousness and your financial success,
01:25:35previous girlfriend's attraction.
01:25:39You fear that your lack of industriousness
01:25:41is pushing women away.
01:25:42That is what you're saying.
01:25:43I would make sure that that is the case.
01:25:47I would maybe even text your exes
01:25:49if you've got a good relationship with them.
01:25:51Oh, fuck it, just text them anyway.
01:25:52Hey, I just wanted to ask how big of a deal
01:25:56was my financial success in how attracted you were to me?
01:26:01You don't need to sugarcoat it.
01:26:05I'm asking for myself.
01:26:06I really want to be a good man for the next woman,
01:26:08and I really hope that I've left you
01:26:10in a better place than I found you.
01:26:11Can you just feel free to voice note me or say whatever?
01:26:14And I would just do that for all of your exes.
01:26:16That'd be a cool personal development thing to do.
01:26:20It'd be good at keeping your ego small.
01:26:22And you might be surprised at what you find out.
01:26:24They might say, "Actually, do you know what it is?
01:26:27The neurotic thing, it was actually a bit much for me."
01:26:31And that might be what you need to work on.
01:26:34So that'd be cool to ask.
01:26:36I would say financial success, if you're in your 40s,
01:26:39is, especially if you've got this fit,
01:26:42funny, neurotic, attentive, attractive character,
01:26:45if you've got those things,
01:26:47it's not gonna be that hard for you
01:26:48to start to grind a little bit more.
01:26:52Squeeze, you've got no dependents,
01:26:53sounds like going through a breakup single.
01:26:55You can wring out the fucking wet towel
01:27:00of resource provisioning and crank it, side hustle,
01:27:05do a few things, and within the space of a few years,
01:27:08presuming that you don't have some dependents
01:27:09or you're living in a really expensive place,
01:27:12you will be able to get, I would much sooner back you,
01:27:17somebody who just needs to potentially
01:27:19become more financially successful,
01:27:21then back someone who needs to become more attentive,
01:27:24attractive, caring, fit, and funny.
01:27:27Like you've got all of the raw materials
01:27:30and you've just got this one bit.
01:27:31If this is true, again, if this is,
01:27:32they come back, I mean, it's weird,
01:27:33like a girl come back, "Yo, yeah,
01:27:35it's because you earn 40 grand a year.
01:27:37That's, to me, it's a real turn off."
01:27:39It's like, what, with every past girlfriend?
01:27:42I don't know, maybe, but find out what it is.
01:27:45If so, fix it.
01:27:49Thomas JH10, "I'm four years clean from gambling,
01:27:52but still paying off gambling debts,
01:27:54about 60,000 pounds left."
01:27:56Wow.
01:27:57"What advice would you give for trying to pay this off
01:27:59as quickly as possible?
01:28:00Currently a teacher."
01:28:02Well, dude, I'm really fucking proud of you
01:28:05for beating gambling addiction.
01:28:07Four years from gambling, gambling is such a silent,
01:28:10like a huge silent epidemic that nobody sees.
01:28:17It is massively gendered as a lot of addictions are actually.
01:28:21And I think if people don't have that particular key hole
01:28:28that gambling taps into in their mind,
01:28:31they just can't understand, I can't understand.
01:28:35I've got a few addictive bones in my body,
01:28:38but none of them ever got, whatever,
01:28:40addictive sockets in my body,
01:28:42but none of them ever got plugged into.
01:28:44It just turned into work and building businesses
01:28:49and fucking thinking about stupid ideas.
01:28:53And I'm really fortunate that that was the case,
01:28:56but I really applaud you for doing it.
01:28:59It's fucking awesome.
01:29:0060,000 pounds is a lot of money.
01:29:03That would be, what, $85,000 maybe, maybe $90,000.
01:29:08Currently a teacher.
01:29:10I'm gonna guess that that means you earn probably 30s, 30s-ish
01:29:15depending on how long you've been doing it for.
01:29:18Fuck, man.
01:29:22I mean, being a teacher is not a small lift.
01:29:24You've got your holidays and things.
01:29:28What would be good?
01:29:30I mean, you can try and do the side hustle thing,
01:29:34take James Smith's how to become an online fitness coach thing
01:29:37and do that, I would actually say
01:29:40that from an hourly standpoint, especially if you can do it,
01:29:42becoming a PT is really not bad
01:29:44'cause in the UK that can be 25, 30, 40 pounds,
01:29:49even 50 pounds an hour if you are able
01:29:51to sort of build up the momentum
01:29:53and do it in a high-income area.
01:29:55That would be a good side hustle.
01:29:57I know what you don't want.
01:30:00What's easiest for me to say is just chip away at it, dude.
01:30:03You know, 60,000 pounds left, batten down the hatches.
01:30:07If you're battening down the hatches with what,
01:30:09let's say five grand a year, you're able to chip away,
01:30:14that's 12 years, it's a fucking decade
01:30:16of this thing hanging over your head.
01:30:18And if there's gambling debts that are accumulating interest,
01:30:22that is just, it is gonna take, it's gonna take time.
01:30:26And presumably you want to be liberated of this
01:30:27or else you wouldn't be asking me.
01:30:29I mean, obviously you need to get your burn rate down.
01:30:33You can't spend that much
01:30:36because every pound that you spend on something
01:30:38is a pound that you don't spend on that.
01:30:39But then do you also want to look back on a life
01:30:41where you spent all of your time just paying off this debt
01:30:44and didn't enjoy your youth when you had it?
01:30:46My, I'm sure financial planners would say otherwise,
01:30:53my feeling in situations like this is to just try
01:30:55and increase the inflow of cash.
01:30:58That was the way that I got.
01:31:00I mean, there was a period in uni when I was 20
01:31:04where I didn't have money to put into my car
01:31:07to drive to work.
01:31:09And one of the guys that was living with me
01:31:13was stealing food from the Tesco
01:31:15'cause neither of us had money.
01:31:16I did, I was too proud to message my parents
01:31:20and ask them for cash.
01:31:21I'm sure they would have given it to me.
01:31:23I'm sure it could have got a loan from the guy
01:31:26that me and Darren were working for for the franchise,
01:31:27but I didn't want to see him.
01:31:29I don't even know why, but it,
01:31:31I know what it's, for a short period of time
01:31:34I know what it's like to be really worried about money.
01:31:37My solution to get out of that was to just overwork.
01:31:41And I get the sense that
01:31:44anxiety really hates a moving target
01:31:46and dialing your burn rate down is good,
01:31:49but dialing your inflow up will probably feel better
01:31:52and be more motivating.
01:31:53Yeah, it's gonna be more tiring,
01:31:54but it's gonna feel like you're doing more.
01:31:56As long as you can keep an eye
01:31:58on how much you're spending.
01:32:00Evening job, fucking
01:32:02local retail, somewhere that's 24 hours,
01:32:08petrol station kiosk, PT stuff,
01:32:12especially during summer holidays.
01:32:14That's where I would go.
01:32:16I wouldn't be doing it from investment.
01:32:17I think just increase the inflow, but dude, congrats.
01:32:20I'm really happy that you're doing it.
01:32:22You are gonna get there.
01:32:24Just stay the course.
01:32:25And also, like I say,
01:32:26the action is the antidote to anxiety thing.
01:32:30Something tells me that if you're working really hard,
01:32:32the likelihood of you relapsing into the gambling
01:32:35is probably gonna dip down too.
01:32:37El Moru, when are you coming to Hamburg?
01:32:42So we have a gap in the UK and Ireland tour
01:32:46between the, we do four dates back to back.
01:32:51It's insane.
01:32:52We do those four and then we have a window
01:32:57and I'm either going to do cinema shoot
01:33:00and do some episodes or we're gonna come to Germany.
01:33:03I have no idea whether we're gonna come to Hamburg,
01:33:05but Germany is the fifth biggest market of listeners
01:33:10for Modern Wisdom.
01:33:10I think it's America, UK,
01:33:15Australia, Canada, Germany.
01:33:20So I know that there's lots of German people there.
01:33:24We're also coming to some video game conference thing
01:33:29with Nutonic, I swear.
01:33:31And we might do it around that.
01:33:32That's at the end of September maybe or August.
01:33:37I will try and come in the next.
01:33:39I will try and come in 2026.
01:33:42Guya Maria, hey Chris,
01:33:44how much have you worked with Joe Hudson
01:33:46and how well do you guys know each other?
01:33:47You seem close, loved your podcasts together.
01:33:50Love, thank you.
01:33:51Joe is a goat.
01:33:54He's so good.
01:33:55And I've not done that.
01:34:00I spent that week with him.
01:34:01I did his retreat.
01:34:02I did Groundbreakers.
01:34:04I've done the communications course
01:34:06from Art of Accomplishment.
01:34:08We talk maybe once a week, once every couple of weeks.
01:34:13He's legit.
01:34:15There's very few people on the planet
01:34:16that deserve the title Master Coach.
01:34:19And he's one of them.
01:34:22And we are close, we are.
01:34:23And to be close to somebody
01:34:25who I think is such a good person,
01:34:27significantly better person than I am is cool.
01:34:31It's cool.
01:34:32My desire for what a good friend looks like
01:34:37or the people that I admire,
01:34:38criteria for people that I admire has changed an awful lot.
01:34:43And somebody like Joe who's so calm and regulated
01:34:47and introspective and caring and smart and wise,
01:34:51he is, you know, that's why I love Chris Bumstead.
01:34:54That's why, in a weird way,
01:34:55that's why I love Holmosey as well.
01:34:56Even though if you were to take Holmosey and Joe Hudson,
01:34:59you've got two very different demeanors.
01:35:01I learned a lot from him and he's a great guy.
01:35:07So I really hope.
01:35:09I should have done the decisions course.
01:35:10It's happening right now from Art of Accomplishment.
01:35:12Everyone that was in my Groundbreakers group
01:35:14is telling me how great it is, but I just, I couldn't.
01:35:17I couldn't.
01:35:17With all of the health stuff that I'm trying to do,
01:35:20it would have just felt like more burden.
01:35:21So maybe next year.
01:35:23Coach Maf, what kind of questions do you prefer
01:35:27or not prefer at the Q&A?
01:35:29I've got VIP tickets in New Zealand.
01:35:31Fucking sick, dude.
01:35:32I've never been to New Zealand, so I'm excited to go.
01:35:34I prefer the question that you really want to ask.
01:35:39You're not performing for me.
01:35:41I'm performing for you.
01:35:42And whatever you're interested in,
01:35:45what is the burning question that's really true?
01:35:47One, I want the question from you that is scarier
01:35:50than the one that you think you're supposed to ask.
01:35:52It's the one that's more revealing.
01:35:53It's the one that makes you go,
01:35:54oh, am I really going to say this?
01:35:57I've got this mic and a few thousand people in front of me.
01:35:59Am I really going to say this
01:36:00to this guy whose podcast I watch?
01:36:03That's the question I want you to ask.
01:36:05So other than that, whatever you're interested in.
01:36:07Logan Bissett.
01:36:10If Pinocchio said his nose is going to grow,
01:36:13what would happen next?
01:36:15If Pinocchio said his nose is going to grow,
01:36:33what would happen next?
01:36:35Something tells me there's a Reddit thread
01:36:41that is 4,000 comments deep explaining this.
01:36:45I get the sense that it would grow
01:36:53because he doesn't know if it's going to grow.
01:36:57So the nose grows because of him lying,
01:37:02not because of his accuracy at telling the future.
01:37:07He does not know if it's going to grow, unless he does.
01:37:11Fuck.
01:37:12I don't know.
01:37:14Dark Mode Kyle.
01:37:17Why did you stop working out?
01:37:18You used to be so fit.
01:37:20What?
01:37:22What do you mean?
01:37:24Why did you stop working out?
01:37:25You used to be, what's it used to be?
01:37:27I still work out.
01:37:30Someone just gave me the compliments on the forearms.
01:37:33Look, I have lost a little bit of muscle mass,
01:37:35but I've been sad and ill, okay?
01:37:38Fucking hell.
01:37:39Dark Mode Kyle, you really are fucking dark mode.
01:37:44Didn't stop working out.
01:37:47Still fit-ish, fit-ish.
01:37:49Fucking mean question.
01:37:52I'm not going to finish up on that.
01:37:54I was going to finish up.
01:37:55I'm not going to finish up on someone accusing me
01:37:56of going skinny fat, even if I have been.
01:37:58Beckzod Zassanov5743.
01:38:06Do you have any plans about writing a book?
01:38:07Because it seems to me and a majority of the listeners
01:38:10that you have enough resources to write one, right?
01:38:13And we are looking forward to it.
01:38:14Well, thank you.
01:38:15And yeah, I do know that I should get on with it.
01:38:19This deal has been there for a long time
01:38:22with portfolio from Penguin.
01:38:24Adrian, the owner, is really wonderful with me
01:38:28and has allowed me to put my delivery date back
01:38:31three times already, I think.
01:38:35I'll tell you what I'm struggling with.
01:38:37I'll be completely open with you.
01:38:39What I'm struggling with is what's called the idea set.
01:38:42I could call it Modern Wisdom.
01:38:46And that would be cool.
01:38:48And it would pass the subway test,
01:38:50which is would someone want to be seen reading it on the tube?
01:38:54Modern Wisdom book title, like, whoa, great.
01:38:57What is the idea set of Modern Wisdom?
01:38:59It's not single thrust.
01:39:00It's not the psychology of money.
01:39:02It's not atomic habits.
01:39:03It's not high agency.
01:39:05It's not the subtle art of not giving a fuck.
01:39:07It's not an idea set.
01:39:09It is more like an almanac style book.
01:39:12And although that's great and kind of is what I do, right?
01:39:16Curating different ideas.
01:39:17It means that you don't get to own a particular area
01:39:19of cognitive real estate.
01:39:20And I think that's important.
01:39:22I also think if the first book that I do
01:39:24is simply me naming it after the podcast,
01:39:27which is already the thing that I'm known for,
01:39:29what it sounds like is, oh,
01:39:30that podcast guy wrote a book about his podcast
01:39:33or about what he learned on the podcast or something.
01:39:35And even if the podcast has been the big vehicle
01:39:38for my learning,
01:39:40I think that reduces down the legitimacy of me as a writer.
01:39:43But make no mistake.
01:39:44I've written over a quarter of a million words
01:39:47in the last five years.
01:39:49Since I launched the newsletter,
01:39:50I do a thousand words every single week.
01:39:52300,000, 350,000 words in a fucking Apple note
01:39:57on this laptop.
01:39:58I'm a writer.
01:40:03And if I release a book that's the title of my podcast,
01:40:07I feel like that kind of diminishes the legitimacy of,
01:40:11oh, he really wrote a book.
01:40:13He really put forward a thesis.
01:40:14He had an idea and he crafted the direction of this book
01:40:19to deliver that.
01:40:20Supposed to he just repurposed ideas from the pot.
01:40:23Even if it was brand new material,
01:40:24even if I didn't quote a single other person, I don't know.
01:40:28So the idea set,
01:40:30there's so many different directions that I can go in.
01:40:32Do I want to talk about how to not miss your life?
01:40:35Do I want to talk about the balance
01:40:37between success and happiness?
01:40:38Do I want to talk about lonely chapters?
01:40:40Do I want to talk about unteachable lessons?
01:40:41Do I want to talk about obsession?
01:40:43The single direction, there's so many that I could go in,
01:40:47but that also is a problem.
01:40:48So I've got the fucking paradox of choice and curse of,
01:40:51curse of not even competence.
01:40:55I've never written a book before,
01:40:56but curse of options, at least at the moment.
01:40:58Yeah, I am looking forward to it too.
01:41:02I'm just gonna have to get my life to the stage
01:41:04where I have sufficient launch velocity to get away from it.
01:41:07I mean, if you have an idea
01:41:10for what you want to see me write,
01:41:12fucking leave it in the comments below,
01:41:13because there is so many things that I can talk about.
01:41:16Yeah, what would you want to see me write about?
01:41:20That would be an interesting one.
01:41:23All right, I'm gonna love you and leave you.
01:41:25That is an hour and 45.
01:41:27I did this last time.
01:41:31I think I did this around about Christmas
01:41:33where I got to the end of the episode
01:41:37and I did a little reflection about sort of how I've been,
01:41:39genuinely, genuinely, how I've been feeling recently.
01:41:41I said a while ago, if someone could do a sentiment analysis,
01:41:48pace of words, tonality, energy, speech errors,
01:41:54I'd love that to be tracked over time
01:41:58because there would be this weird sort of increase
01:42:02in all of these issues
01:42:05as my brain started dripping out of my ears
01:42:09and I wasn't sleeping
01:42:10and I had all of this stuff going on personally
01:42:13that I was trying to deal with.
01:42:18And it feels really good
01:42:20to have a tiny little bit of me back.
01:42:23And I appreciate all of you for sticking with me through this
01:42:27because I know even when I look back
01:42:30on the conversations I had last year,
01:42:32they were amazing and insightful
01:42:35and one of my favorite years with the podcast.
01:42:38But there was a sort of dour sad undertone to them
01:42:42because that's how I was feeling.
01:42:43That was the energy that I was bringing in.
01:42:45I was asking a lot of questions about tapping into emotion
01:42:48and navigating downtime and overcoming challenges.
01:42:52And in some ways that's inspiring, hopefully,
01:42:56but in other ways, I leak into the show a lot
01:43:01and that's beautiful because it's real.
01:43:06But it does mean that if I'm having a bit of a down period,
01:43:10you guys come along for the ride
01:43:11and I for the first time in a long time
01:43:15have just got a little bit of breathing room.
01:43:17My brain feels like it's starting to work
01:43:19and I'm coming up with ideas
01:43:20and I'm beginning to write a little bit more fluidly
01:43:23and I'm prepared to have a bit of not bravado,
01:43:28you get confidence.
01:43:30I'm prepared to have a little bit of confidence
01:43:32which I haven't had for like nearly two years.
01:43:34Like proper, I feel like I'm good at the thing that I do
01:43:37as opposed to, I fear that I'm going to be found out
01:43:40for not being as good as I used to be.
01:43:43And I just wanted to say thank you
01:43:45for everyone sticking with me.
01:43:47I'm really, really gonna fucking rip the hinges off this year.
01:43:52I'm gonna do it gently to start with
01:43:55because if I feel a bit better
01:43:58and then start loading too much load onto the work plate,
01:44:03that'll go badly.
01:44:06So I'm gonna try and titrate the dose
01:44:07but the early signs are good.
01:44:11And I just wanted to say thank you
01:44:13for everyone for being here with me,
01:44:15for giving me a reason to get out of bed
01:44:17on days when I've really, really, really fucking not wanted to
01:44:20for supporting the show is really, it's super meaningful.
01:44:24And these Q&A's and the questions that you guys ask
01:44:26is so cool and they're really,
01:44:28I'm proud to have you as an audience and that's it.
01:44:32I'll stop fucking
01:44:34guffawing and venting all over you.
01:44:40I appreciate you, chriswellax.com/valentine
01:44:43if you wanna get some questions to connect with your partner
01:44:46or make yourself squirm, chriswilliamson.live
01:44:48for the tour stuff.
01:44:49Mostly Wives merch is gonna be coming out soon.
01:44:52Lots of episodes coming up, new studio, Australia people.
01:44:57All right, I love you all, bye.

Key Takeaway

Through a transparent Q&A, Chris Williamson explores the intersection of professional ambition, the grueling reality of health recovery, and the psychological shifts required to transition from a 'hustle' mindset to a more emotionally regulated life.

Highlights

Chris emphasizes the importance of questioning if you are willing to endure the specific lifestyle required to reach your definition of success.

The creator provides an honest health update regarding his 18-month battle with toxic mold, chronic fatigue, and high cholesterol caused by a carnivore-leaning diet.

A major theme of the Q&A is the 'lonely chapter' of personal growth, where individuals often lose old social circles before finding new, intellectually engaging ones.

Chris shares his sobriety journey, recommending a six-month minimum break to truly reap the physiological and cognitive benefits of quitting alcohol.

Strategic advice is given on breaking the 'overachiever' cycle in hobbies by choosing activities with ill-defined outcomes like yoga or dance to avoid obsessive skill-tracking.

The upcoming 2026 plans include a world tour across Australia, New Zealand, and the UK, alongside the launch of a new high-tech podcast studio.

Timeline

Defining Success and the Reality of the Route

Chris opens the show by celebrating a milestone of 4.1 million subscribers and introducing a special Valentine's Day resource for couples. He addresses the first question regarding the uncomfortable truths one must face before pursuing success. The core argument is that people often desire the outcome of success without wanting to live the 'lifestyle required to get the life.' He uses the example of a rock star to illustrate the years of isolation and travel involved in the profession. Chris concludes that if you are unwilling to endure the route, you must relinquish the desire to avoid a life of guaranteed misery.

Health Updates: Carnivore Diet and Mold Toxicity

The discussion shifts to Chris's personal health journey, specifically his experience with a version of the carnivore diet consisting of meat and fruit. While he felt mentally sharper during his mold detox, he discovered he is a 'hyper-absorber' of cholesterol, which caused his LDL levels to skyrocket. He warns that while some 'pray at the altar' of the carnivore diet, it can be destructive to heart health for sensitive individuals. Currently, he has transitioned to a more balanced 16/8 intermittent fasting protocol. This section highlights the importance of monitoring blood work rather than following dietary trends blindly.

Navigating Career Dissatisfaction and Starting Over

Chris responds to a 25-year-old viewer who feels lost after realizing their hard-earned career brings no joy. He offers deep empathy, acknowledging the pain of the 'sunk cost fallacy' when years of effort feel wasted. Chris provides personal perspective, noting that he didn't launch his podcast until age 30 or move to America until 33, proving it is never too late to pivot. He encourages the viewer to ignore the judgment of others, as most people are too preoccupied with their own lives to care. The advice culminates in finding the 'single smallest step' to move away from a hated life toward a desired one.

The Struggle of Invisible Illness and Internet Scrutiny

Reflecting on his recent health vlogs, Chris discusses the mixed response from his audience regarding his struggle with toxic mold and chronic fatigue. He notes a lack of sympathy from some viewers because he 'looks healthy' on the outside, which leads to accusations of 'whining.' Chris pushes back against the idea that feeling 'slower and sadder' is just a normal part of aging in your 30s. He lists a wide variety of unsolicited solutions sent by fans, ranging from goat milk cleanses to 'blood at the full moon' rituals. Ultimately, he vows to keep speaking his truth to help others suffering from similar invisible conditions like ME/CFS and SIBO.

2026 Roadmap: World Tour and Creative Projects

Chris outlines his ambitious plans for 2026, headlined by live tours in Australia, New Zealand, Bali, and the UK. He expresses immense excitement for his new studio, which will support high-quality live musical performances and various new episode styles. The creator also discusses his 'Mostly Wise' merch line, which features designs from the artist behind the band Sleep Token. Regarding his long-awaited book, he explains the difficulty of balancing a multi-month creative project with the daily demands of a 'founder mode' startup. He emphasizes that high-level creative work requires a large 'context window' that current podcasting schedules often disrupt.

Sobriety, Social Pressure, and Regression to the Mean

A viewer from Finland asks if quitting drinking is worth the potential loss of social opportunities and business insights. Chris responds with a resounding 'yes,' suggesting that 0% alcohol beers can bridge the social gap without the cognitive cost. He warns against 'outsourcing your wisdom to the crowd,' noting that the average person is often unhealthy and financially unstable. Following the 'mean' path of social drinking frequently leads to a life that most individuals don't actually want. He recommends a minimum six-month commitment to sobriety to move past the difficult initial 60-day deprogramming phase.

The Psychology of Biology and Overcoming Low Vibe Years

Chris admits that 2025 was the hardest year of his life professionally and personally, involving significant emotional struggle and frequent crying. He clarifies that his 'good vibe' on camera is a result of professional dedication rather than a lack of internal pain. He credits Andrew Huberman's advice on sunlight and light therapy glasses for helping maintain his circadian rhythm during dark periods. The section also covers his view on the academic system, where he admits to failing himself by choosing business over his true passions of philosophy and psychology. He remains 'pro-higher education' not for the curriculum, but for the social and life-negotiation skills it provides.

Refusing to Settle and the Battle Against Entropy

When asked what advice he would give his 100% healthy self, Chris discusses the psychological burden of invisible illness. He explains that without a 'broken arm' to show people, it is difficult to legitimize the feeling of sickness to oneself and others. His driving force is the refusal to settle for a diminished life or let 'entropy win' over his health and ambition. He describes the human experience as a brief 80-year window to resist the universal march toward disorder. Chris concludes that he would much rather 'die trying' to feel better than survive by accepting a state of permanent decline.

Dating Dynamics and the 'Modern West' Problem

Addressing questions about the 'bad' dating scene in Australia, Chris argues that this is actually a broader issue affecting the entire modern West. He identifies 'shifting sands' regarding gender expectations and a 'vitality curve' mismatch as primary obstacles for high-achieving women. For those with 'refined palettes' in terms of intellectual and emotional standards, the dating pool naturally feels smaller. Chris suggests that having high standards is a double-edged sword that requires patience rather than settling for less connection. He encourages listeners to stay the course, as the only alternative is giving up on the prospect of a deep partnership.

The Habit Loop and Overwriting Old Patterns

The discussion moves to the difficulty of unlearning bad habits, which Chris describes as 'water cutting a groove into a landscape.' He posits that it is nearly impossible to simply 'unlearn' a habit; instead, one must build a new, deeper groove through consistent effort. He cites the 'don't miss two days in a row' rule as a vital tool for establishing new patterns. Chris also tackles the 'type A' obsession with skill-building in hobbies, suggesting that overachievers should try activities with subjective outcomes. By choosing hobbies like salsa dancing or yoga, individuals can focus on enjoyment rather than strictly defined winning or losing.

Reconciling Potential with Contentment

A 23-year-old viewer asks how to balance the drive for unfulfilled potential with the need for contentment. Chris identifies this 'perpetual chase' as the fundamental human condition, wired into our biology for survival. He notes that the viewer's lack of motivation might stem from a failure to celebrate previous 'micro-wins,' leaving the brain unrewarded for hard work. Chris advises the viewer to audit their path to ensure they aren't 'climbing a ladder against the wrong wall.' He stresses that celebration is a necessary fuel for future ambition and that failing to enjoy success makes the effort pointless.

The Evolution from Hustle to Healing

In the final segments, Chris details his current morning routine, which focuses on light exposure, 'resonance breathing' for the vagus nerve, and meditation. He discusses the difficult transition from being a 'ruthless hustler' to someone focused on emotional healing and nervous system regulation. This 'active to emotional' phase often feels like 'devolution' because it requires abandoning the very tools (like over-caffeinating and ignoring feelings) that brought initial success. Chris reflects on his growth, noting that true maturity involves reconciling with one's internal state rather than just chasing external metrics. He concludes by thanking his audience for their support during his long road to recovery.

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