The one stupid purchase every rich person makes

CChris Williamson
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00:00:00- Will a big house make you happier?
00:00:01- If you use it as a way to have better relationships
00:00:06with people.
00:00:08If you have a big house so you can have 20
00:00:09of your best buddies over every Friday night
00:00:11and have a great time, yes.
00:00:13If you have a big house because that's what you need
00:00:15for you and your spouse to have five kids
00:00:17and that's your meaning and purpose in life,
00:00:19yes, absolutely.
00:00:20But I think if you're using it as a way of just like a,
00:00:25because that's what you should want kind of thing,
00:00:27then it can be pretty miserable.
00:00:29Very interesting, Harvey Firestone,
00:00:30who created Firestone Tires,
00:00:32he was alive 120 years ago or some odd.
00:00:36He wrote a biography in the 1920s and he pointed this out.
00:00:39He said, "Every wealthy person that he knows,
00:00:42"without exception, buys a gigantic house.
00:00:45"And every single one of them, without exception,
00:00:48"finds it to just be a tremendous burden."
00:00:50(laughing)
00:00:51And he was like, "Why do we do it?"
00:00:54And he even said Henry Ford, who at the time
00:00:55was like a cheap miser.
00:00:58He was like, "Even Henry Ford has a gigantic house
00:01:01"that he hates."
00:01:02But he's like, "There has to be something in the human soul
00:01:06"that just associates large property with success."
00:01:10- Big abode.
00:01:11- Because, and I think a lot of people who have a big house
00:01:13know this, like a big house is a tremendous amount of upkeep.
00:01:16And a lot of people who live in those giant homes
00:01:19will eventually basically seclude themselves
00:01:21to a small little corner of that house that feels homely.
00:01:25- I would love to see people who have homes
00:01:27over 10,000 square feet or whatever.
00:01:30I'd love to do one of those GPS tracking maps.
00:01:32- Yes. - How they do with wolves.
00:01:33- Where do you stay with wolves?
00:01:34Yeah, yeah.
00:01:35- And I'd want to see, oh my God.
00:01:36You know of the 10,000 square feet that your house is?
00:01:39You use the same 1,500 square feet.
00:01:43- Right.
00:01:44- And you would be able to purchase that in this location
00:01:46or however many of these, or this is what you lived in.
00:01:49You use the size of house that you lived in
00:01:51when you were 22.
00:01:53- Yes.
00:01:54- And you're still living in that same house.
00:01:56It's just slightly bigger surrounding.
00:01:58- But even if you showed that person that information
00:02:01or for myself and you said,
00:02:02hey, you could actually only live in a house
00:02:04that's 1,500 square feet.
00:02:05No, no thanks, not interested.
00:02:07So that's what Harvey Firestone got right.
00:02:09He was like, it's a burden, but you still do it.
00:02:11And you're still going to do it.
00:02:12I have a friend whose parents live in a 20,000 square foot
00:02:15house and he gave us a tour.
00:02:16And the tour was basically, yeah, down that hall,
00:02:19there's four bedrooms that nobody ever uses.
00:02:22Down this hall, there's a room.
00:02:23It was going to be a gym,
00:02:24but we actually put the gym downstairs.
00:02:26Nobody ever uses it.
00:02:27He was giving us a tour of places that are never used.
00:02:30And just like I said, they basically secluded themselves
00:02:32to the kitchen, living room, bedroom and that was it.
00:02:34- Behold, my obsolescence.
00:02:37Look at how much surplus I have.
00:02:39- But I think this is why it's such a fascinating topic
00:02:41because people have always done that
00:02:42and they will always do it.
00:02:43- An interesting point is even rich people,
00:02:48not all rich people buy fancy cars.
00:02:52Not everyone's into cars, not all rich people.
00:02:55Most rich people fly at a slightly nicer class.
00:02:59I think that's one of the places.
00:03:00But very few people regret choosing to fly business
00:03:05over flying economy if you're in the market
00:03:07for that kind of travel quality.
00:03:09- Yeah, this is what Sam Zell,
00:03:11who was a billionaire real estate guy,
00:03:12he told David Senra this.
00:03:14Sam Zell said the only true material luxury is flying private.
00:03:20So Sam's advice, it's ambitious advice.
00:03:22He was like, get the private jet money.
00:03:24That's the only thing that makes a difference in your life.
00:03:26- Scott Galloway said the same.
00:03:26Scott Galloway said, once you're able to own your own home,
00:03:29the only next thing worth buying
00:03:32is being able to have a jet.
00:03:33- And obviously that's 0.0001% money.
00:03:35- It's a fucking, Scott, the difference between,
00:03:37I mean, for a lot of people,
00:03:38being able to buy a house is out of fucking reach
00:03:41at the moment.
00:03:43And then the jet thing, but at least to me,
00:03:46the sort of funny note on that was like, what about a yacht?
00:03:49He's like, yachts, stupid. - No, pain in the ass.
00:03:50- Yeah, I thought it was so funny.
00:03:54How do you define financial success then?
00:03:58After all of this time thinking about it,
00:03:59what does financial success come to mean?
00:04:02- To me, it's independence to be who you wanna be.
00:04:05And who I wanna be is not who you wanna be.
00:04:07Everyone has their own very individualistic definition
00:04:10of that.
00:04:11It's waking up and saying, I can do whatever I want today
00:04:14and having the independence and the freedom to do that.
00:04:17And the distinction is there are billionaires
00:04:19who have no control over their time,
00:04:20no control over their schedule,
00:04:22spend their entire day doing things that they don't wanna do.
00:04:25And there are people who make $50,000 a year
00:04:27who are living their absolute best life
00:04:29and totally control their life,
00:04:30control where they live, where they work,
00:04:33who they spend their time with,
00:04:34doing the hobbies that they wanna do.
00:04:36And so to me, that's really what wealth is.
00:04:39And I think a lot of people can get this wrong
00:04:41in their ambitions.
00:04:42That if your sole financial ambition is,
00:04:45I want the highest net worth,
00:04:47and the way in which you're gonna get that
00:04:50is to basically put on a performance
00:04:52of somebody that you're not and wake up every morning
00:04:54and do things that you don't enjoy doing.
00:04:56And that's not to say hard work.
00:04:59I think the vast majority of people get a big thrill
00:05:02and a lot of pleasure out of hard work.
00:05:04They like being productive,
00:05:04doing the thing that they wanna do.
00:05:06It's working hard on things that you genuinely don't enjoy
00:05:10solely because you're attracted to a bigger bank account.
00:05:13But then that's a very common thing.
00:05:15So I think the definition of wealth is the ability,
00:05:18the pleasure of being who you wanna be,
00:05:21being independent, waking up every morning and saying,
00:05:23"What I'm gonna do today is the thing that I want to do."
00:05:27- Wealth without independence is a unique form of poverty.
00:05:30- That's what it is for a lot of wealthy people.
00:05:32This to me is one of the most fascinating things
00:05:34of meeting a lot of wealthy people.
00:05:36If you associate wealth with material,
00:05:38and you go, they have a big house,
00:05:40they have a big car, maybe they have a plane,
00:05:42and you associate, oh, this person is very wealthy.
00:05:44And for a lot of them, not all of them,
00:05:45but for a lot of them, if you get to know them,
00:05:48they spend the vast majority of their day
00:05:50doing things that they don't wanna do.
00:05:52And that to me, that still might be appealing to some people.
00:05:55Or if you're not at that, you might say,
00:05:57"Look, I understand you say that,
00:05:58"but let me experience it for myself.
00:06:00"Let me try to do that."
00:06:01That's always the appeal, so I get that.
00:06:03But of the very wealthy people I've met,
00:06:06some of them have truly amazing lives.
00:06:09And I wouldn't say jealous,
00:06:10but I look at them and be like, "I want to be you."
00:06:14I think there's a greater number, though,
00:06:15that if you get to know them, you're like,
00:06:17"Wow, that's not what I thought it would be."
00:06:20- Well, a lot of people have to do things
00:06:22that they don't want to do.
00:06:23And many people who work super hard, two jobs,
00:06:27got the kids, all the rest of the stuff,
00:06:28would say, "Well, you know, good.
00:06:30"They should do, I have to work hard, and so should they."
00:06:34You go, "Yeah, but why do you think
00:06:36"they make themselves wealthy?
00:06:37"What would you do if I was wealthy?
00:06:39"I wouldn't have to work the second job."
00:06:41It's like, if you are the sort of person
00:06:43who is driven to make yourself into the kind of wealth
00:06:46that they have, you can't turn off the switch.
00:06:50- You're never gonna meet a billionaire,
00:06:52except on the very few people who accidentally got rich.
00:06:56You're never gonna meet a self-made billionaire
00:06:57who has a kind of personality who could say,
00:06:59"That's enough, let me put it all in muni bonds and go home."
00:07:02It's not over there.
00:07:03The reason that they are successful
00:07:05is because they have the kind of personality
00:07:06where they cannot, 24 hours a day,
00:07:08all they can think about is their business.
00:07:10And even if I would say, "I don't want that for myself.
00:07:14"Of course, I wanna be financially successful,
00:07:16"and I enjoy the work that I do."
00:07:18I'm so grateful that those people exist.
00:07:20The vast majority of the great technology
00:07:23and great medicine that we all enjoy in the world
00:07:25came from people who were maniacally obsessed
00:07:28about their job, even if it came at the expense
00:07:30of their health, their marriage,
00:07:32their relationship with their kids.
00:07:34They created something amazing,
00:07:35and that's why they got successful.
00:07:36- Human perpetual motion machines.
00:07:38They're just churning, sucking in problems
00:07:41and spitting out solutions.
00:07:43- Yeah, I think we should be almost the most grateful
00:07:45for people in society who created amazing technology
00:07:49and amazing things at the expense of their own happiness
00:07:52that we all get to benefit from now.
00:07:53- Yeah, I mean, it should be a cautionary tale,
00:07:55but from the outside, everybody looks at it
00:07:57and thinks some version of that might be true for them,
00:08:01but it won't be true for me.
00:08:02Watch me dance through the minefield
00:08:06that has been laid by art and literature and movies
00:08:11and songs and stories from my grandparents
00:08:14and the most famous investors from history.
00:08:16Watch me dance through that minefield
00:08:19and not kick any of the trip wires.
00:08:21- David Senra has profiled 400
00:08:23of the most successful entrepreneurs.
00:08:25He's done such a good job doing it.
00:08:27And he says of the 400 entrepreneurs he's profiled,
00:08:31there's two whose lives that he thinks
00:08:33that he would actually want to live.
00:08:36- Who are they?
00:08:37- One is Ed Thorp, who was a card counter in Vegas
00:08:41and then a hedge fund manager
00:08:42and had just an amazing personal life on the side.
00:08:45Just amazing family, incredible health.
00:08:48I think he's still around.
00:08:48I think Ed Thorp is 90 years old and genuinely looks 55.
00:08:53Incredible life.
00:08:54But of the other 399 people that he's profiled,
00:08:58it's that person created something amazing,
00:09:01built an incredible thing, an amazing amount of wealth,
00:09:03technology that we all benefit from
00:09:04and we should worship that person or admire that person.
00:09:07And I would never want to be them.
00:09:09- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:10And evade them as much as you can, at least in a role model.
00:09:13You got this great line, money serves you best
00:09:15when it stops being the thing you think about.
00:09:18- Yeah, I think a lot,
00:09:19the vast majority of successful entrepreneurs,
00:09:21with the exception of maybe hedge fund managers,
00:09:24were not chasing the money.
00:09:25They were absolutely fascinated with the problem
00:09:27that they were trying to solve,
00:09:28but they weren't doing it just to get rich.
00:09:30The money came, it eventually came.
00:09:32If you solve enough problems in a way
00:09:34that's helpful for people, it'll eventually come to you.
00:09:36But I think people, entrepreneurs who set out
00:09:39the goal is to become rich very seldomly do.
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Key Takeaway

True wealth is not measured by the size of one's property or net worth, but by the level of independence and control an individual has over their own time and identity.

Highlights

The tendency of wealthy individuals to purchase massive homes often leads to a "tremendous burden" of maintenance and isolation.

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Timeline

The Paradox of the Gigantic House

The speakers debate whether a large home actually contributes to happiness, noting that its value depends on its utility for relationships or family purpose. They reference Harvey Firestone's 1920s biography, which observed that even the wealthiest people like Henry Ford hated their massive estates due to the immense burden of upkeep. A fascinating psychological point is made about how humans associate large property with success despite the practical downsides of maintenance. The discussion introduces a hypothetical GPS tracking study showing that people in 10,000 square foot mansions usually confine themselves to the same 1,500 square feet they used in their twenties. This section highlights the disconnect between the desire for status and the reality of daily living habits.

Material Luxuries and the Value of Private Travel

The conversation shifts to which material purchases actually improve the lives of the wealthy, contrasting fancy cars and yachts with aviation. While many rich people avoid flashy cars, most agree that upgraded travel classes provide a tangible benefit that few regret. Citing billionaire Sam Zell and professor Scott Galloway, the speakers argue that flying private is the only "true material luxury" worth pursuing. This is because private flight offers a level of convenience and time-saving that a large home or a "stupid" yacht cannot provide. The section concludes that for the top 0.0001%, the jet is the only next step after homeownership that fundamentally alters their lived experience.

Defining Wealth as Independence

The speakers redefine financial success as the independence to wake up and do whatever one wants each day. They draw a sharp distinction between a billionaire with no control over their schedule and a person making $50,000 who fully owns their time and hobbies. Wealth is described as the ability to avoid "putting on a performance" of someone you aren't just to increase a bank account balance. A powerful concluding thought in this segment is that "wealth without independence is a unique form of poverty." This highlights the irony of high-net-worth individuals who spend their lives doing things they dislike to maintain their status.

The Obsession of the Self-Made Billionaire

The speakers explore the personality traits of self-made billionaires, noting that these individuals are often "human perpetual motion machines" who cannot turn off their drive. They argue that these people are rarely chasing money alone; instead, they are maniacally obsessed with solving specific problems. While this obsession leads to great technology and medical breakthroughs for society, it often comes at the expense of the creator's health and family. The segment suggests that we should be grateful for these "maniacs" while simultaneously viewing their lives as cautionary tales. This section emphasizes that the traits required to build massive wealth are often incompatible with a traditional definition of a balanced, happy life.

Role Models and the True Purpose of Money

Referencing David Senra’s profiles of 400 entrepreneurs, the speakers note that only two, including Ed Thorp, had lives that seemed truly desirable. Most successful founders build incredible things but possess personal lives that others should probably evade rather than emulate. They reiterate the principle that money serves you best when it allows you to stop thinking about money entirely. The transcript concludes with a commercial segment for Element (LMNT) electrolytes, focusing on the importance of sodium, potassium, and magnesium for brain health and hydration. This final section bridges the gap between the philosophy of wealth and the practical maintenance of physical well-being through proper supplementation.

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