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00:00:00i'm fascinated by you saying that you don't think when you're in the ring what's happening
00:00:04i'm just picking up on cues really um and then kind of like there's these instincts and intuition
00:00:11that are just kind of there you know like oh me like you kind of get a feeling where okay i need
00:00:16to start putting pressure on this man or i need to you know uh move a little bit it's just like
00:00:21kind of momentum shifts that you're kind of noticing little by little and then um there's
00:00:26obviously times where i'm thinking like sometimes i'll just have like mantras in my head like
00:00:29that i've done in camp you know stay focused like the last fight the whole time when i was fighting
00:00:34him i would just say like stay focused stay focused stay focused you know so it was just like little
00:00:38things that i would say in my mind but i'm not really necessarily thinking not thinking
00:00:43but thinking but yeah of course does that mean when you look back on a fight
00:00:50how much of it can you remember the pivotal moments like um
00:00:56like my last fight uh i remember i started getting comfortable in like the 11th round just messing with
00:01:03the guy smacking him looking at the trainer and then lowering my hand a little bit and then you know
00:01:08tasting the right hand i was like don't do that and then kind of like snapping myself back in so i
00:01:15remember those moments i remember you know when i dropped them but i mean for the most part i have to
00:01:21like look back at the fight to really recall most of it and that's strange it is weird it's so strange
00:01:26so i'm friends with musicians comedians sports people and i do live stuff too these conversations
00:01:34once you get into a flow state and you're not thinking that much and things are just happening
00:01:38that's what people want to get to it's really enjoyable it's why your performance is at its best
00:01:44you're moving quickly your brain isn't getting in the way of what you're supposed to do yeah but it's
00:01:49also the thing that kind of robs you of your memory because you're not thinking and you're just doing
00:01:55yeah you're you can't remember it's so funny i mean obviously your job is not to have a good time
00:02:01yeah your job is to win yeah and winning requires you to be in the best state possible
00:02:06but it is funny that the mental state that humans perform best in is also the one that they can
00:02:12remember the least so i wonder how many people that are elite performers comedians artists musicians
00:02:18sports stars look back on their career and they go i'm glad that it was video dude because i'm i kind
00:02:24of wasn't really there for it all that much yeah i mean it is interesting but then also you have like
00:02:30guys like um i guess i don't know if it's like necessary a sport but you know chess guys like uh
00:02:36magnus carlson and just like all those top chess players they could memorize games from you know when
00:02:41they were like five and you're like oh shit like you know where's that come from that's a different
00:02:46kind of sport maybe it is it is yeah i mean you have to use your brain there yeah yeah but i i wonder
00:02:51even if in that you go okay you know what the movements were but can you tell me what you were
00:02:55thinking how you were feeling what you were wearing can you tell me where people were sat can you tell me
00:02:59what emotions were coming up maybe not they're just optimized for one very specific thing which is
00:03:04what are the exact movements on the chessboard right right it's funny yeah it is funny yeah
00:03:10well i all i know is uh i like to win that's all i you know i mean the joy comes after the fight
00:03:17right well you've got a job to do you're a professional yeah i think i like the idea of
00:03:21people treating their pursuits as a professional even people that aren't doing it in that way but you
00:03:28know you're uh i like the the journey of understanding like how much levels there
00:03:34actually is to anything right like say construction or something that's their profession but like
00:03:40there's levels to it people that could construct like these huge buildings and people are constructing
00:03:45you know a little table but there's also levels to building a table some people make a better table
00:03:51than others why is that you know that's that's cool in itself so i find that uh the fun part of my job
00:03:59is just like damn there's so much more even when you think like you know i'm a world champion but i know
00:04:04there's just even more levels to it so you know so i just love that that part of it i didn't know that you
00:04:10started at seven years old and got homeschooled so that you could spend more time boxing around like 15
00:04:16that's when okay do you ever resent or regret missing out on a more normal childhood
00:04:24teenage years teenage experience stuff
00:04:27do i regret it no but i i do think it would have helped me
00:04:33if i went through that you know stuff earlier in life i wouldn't have got into some stupid shit later
00:04:40on you know what i mean because i would already had experienced a little bit of it you know
00:04:44it's kind of like a it helped me get to where i was at but then i didn't have experience with uh
00:04:49with things that came with you know money fame all those other things you want to make teenage
00:04:54mistakes when you're a teenager not when you're in your 20s exactly exactly 100 that's part of
00:04:59where i'm like ah maybe that could help me a little bit but strange the sacrifices that you've got to
00:05:04make in order to get to where you want to be yeah like that yeah i mean everything in life the
00:05:10greatest thing that came uh in this world came through a sacrifice right i mean i believe in jesus so
00:05:15that to me shows that if you want anything in life it has to require sacrifice in some way i don't know
00:05:22you know for other people obviously it's different but for me it was my childhood it was um
00:05:28it was many hours of training as a little kid running non-stop you know having to go to a bunch
00:05:35of tournaments and just kind of just my whole life was just all boxing what was a typical week like
00:05:43for you as a kid uh just my dad would you know have me train uh the whole week and then fight on the
00:05:48weekend so that's a 200 and something amateur 225 amateur fights yeah so there's a lot of uh road trips a
00:05:56lot of uh a lot of gym sessions and a lot of road work yeah but to me it was fun like i loved it going to
00:06:06the tournaments and the tournaments and hanging excuse me hanging out with all the kids uh you know to me that was like the moment i had a little bit of
00:06:14but yeah i had a lot of childhood and you know fun it was just those community yeah exactly the community of the sport so
00:06:21that was fun but yes everything requires sacrifice everything i think a lot of young guys did some sort of sport i did i was dedicated to cricket which is the
00:06:33some may some may some may say the elevated form of baseball uh but yeah uh it's kind of british pastime
00:06:40and that was my entire life from the age of 10 until the age of 18 i would play sometimes five or six
00:06:47matches a week plus training plus school games and i'd get pulled out of school to then have to go and play
00:06:54and then the only reason i went to university is because i thought that i was going to be able to play
00:06:58full-time when i went there and that that like dedication teaches you an awful lot but you do look
00:07:06back and go i wonder what i missed but if it set you up for the rest of life there's very few guys that
00:07:11i know that have ended up with a a really great work ethic in later life that didn't have something
00:07:17that they dedicated themselves to as a kid even if it was academic academia right some people just
00:07:22dedicated themselves to school they wanted to become really good at this thing it seems like
00:07:27extremely hard but i have seen so many people really dedicate themselves to school and i'm
00:07:30like dang how'd you do that that wasn't your vibe oh no i mean i was into math for a little bit
00:07:37and uh you know that was probably the only thing i excelled in but other than that i was kind of like
00:07:44not my thing your dad wanted to be boxer right my dad was a boxer for a little bit like an amateur
00:07:50fighter it was my uncle that was kind of uh more uh i guess uh
00:07:57you know i guess better um he was uh he went to the nationals he was the only one in my family that
00:08:02went to the nationals at that time and uh he lost but he said you know somebody in our family is going
00:08:09to come back here and uh you know he always he always oh i guess it's what he told me he said that
00:08:16you know he would always look for when a kid was born like all right this is going to be the one and
00:08:20then he said none of the all the kids came and you know he was like nope nope nope and then he said
00:08:26when i was born he was like all right that's the one that's insane i know i know it doesn't
00:08:29fucking sound real but that's that's what he said maybe he's just filling in my head so i could think
00:08:34yeah yeah you know and prepare like you know propel me to be like yeah i was always that guy
00:08:41yeah exactly but that's what he said it's a good story yeah so does it does it ever feel like pressure
00:08:46to have you know the weight of a a dad's maybe unfulfilled career and then an uncle's partly
00:08:53fulfilled career all of this riding on your shoulders not only that but all of the other
00:08:57kids that came and went it's like it's not you it's not you it's like the hunger games inside
00:09:01of a single family yeah i mean uh i still feel pressure you know but i think that's why part
00:09:08like partly i dedicated this last fight to my dad for the like you know my first world title i really
00:09:14wanted just to win that for him my whole reasoning for boxing just evolved over time i always you know
00:09:22i was in love with the game but then it kind of evolved to more uh a spiritual journey of you know
00:09:29where i feel uh i'm being guided to and however that is you know a lot of it is because of boxing
00:09:37you know what i mean uh and i don't know what the reasoning is but i just like to follow that
00:09:42so ever since i was little i felt like um little nudges here there you know what i mean i kind of
00:09:47trusted that and always wanted to understand what that is and why every time i followed it good things
00:09:53happen you know what i mean even if i don't get it then so that's kind of where i'm at of why i box
00:10:01that's like actually the only reason why i box it's just because it's always that's what's in me right
00:10:07now maybe it'll take me somewhere else later but right now it's like this is where i'm at there's
00:10:12something pulling you toward it oh yeah yeah so but uh you know i'm happy i won the championship
00:10:17yeah i'll take it of course exactly so um but yeah i think this was my dad's i mean it's my it's
00:10:25everything for my dad he's so happy he's excited and my uncle's probably you know he's super thorough
00:10:30so it's cool it really is uh amazing to see how much joy that brings you know for me i just i just
00:10:38think okay just continue to stay focused you know don't get too high and don't get too low just stay
00:10:45stay stoic and just uh keep your you seem very regulated today you know regulated oh yeah you know
00:10:52just in nice bit of peace yeah i've seen you with varying levels of energy oh i've had that many times
00:10:59you don't want to get me started but you know it's okay man i told you i had to learn a lot
00:11:06so what have you learned recently been a tumultuous few years for you right i feel like what i've really
00:11:12learned is your body is uh literally a temple and what you put in it is uh just as important as what
00:11:19you put out you know what i mean so um just that journey of understanding how my body works and what can
00:11:26propel it to be at its best because usually you know when i was younger man i could put obviously
00:11:32anything in my body and i'm made of rubber and magic you can bounce back exactly and i'm just like
00:11:37thinking i'm unstoppable but god will humble you real quick and god or your liver or your brain yeah
00:11:43oh man it comes in many ways so um yeah i just just didn't like that certain things were taking me so
00:11:52much like you know off course that much and uh it took a uh it took a while for me to really be like
00:11:59all right you're not superman you just gotta you know you are superman when you put the right things
00:12:05in you right but you could go down just as quick yeah well everyone's got their kryptonite right yeah
00:12:10superman yeah exactly you know you put the wrong oil in the car i don't care if you have a ferrari if
00:12:15you you know it's not gonna go you've said uh i'm surprised i'm here right now yeah in the past yeah
00:12:22what was there a specific moment when you realized that you'd gone too far or did it just creep up over
00:12:27uh i think that when when when you could no longer you know get a hold of yourself and you didn't see
00:12:39the decisions you're making that that aren't good and you can't see that anymore i think that you've
00:12:44probably a little too far you know there's times where i was moving so fast that you know it just didn't
00:12:52seem like anything i was doing was wrong but it was what's that mean i just felt like
00:13:00i just felt like even though i'm not a prideful person it was displaying as pride to myself you
00:13:06know now looking back like no that that means it was just being prideful you know what i mean like
00:13:12like it just didn't it it didn't hit me at the time but you know i lost track of of of myself and
00:13:20who i really am and then that's when i knew i was like oh this is not this is not good you know and
00:13:26that's why i was surprised like dang i'm still here you know what i mean like did you have one of
00:13:31the roughest runs of form like kid custody problem mom diagnosed with cancer divorce all basically at
00:13:39the exact same time yeah yeah how does a person even process all that much at once uh i didn't
00:13:48i just kind of shoved it down with uh alcohol and uh just acting out trying to self-destruct anyway so
00:13:55i'm like all right everything's going bad let's sink the whole shit make it worse yeah let's just make
00:13:59it all worse you know and uh i just you know i had just knocked out a man and beat him so bad
00:14:08while self-destructing that all right i could do whatever i can do this yeah i can do this and
00:14:14that's where the humbling came no you can't you know and uh yeah that was a very rough stretch and
00:14:21it's something i try not to look back too much because it's like oh yeah not so proud it's hard
00:14:26no i'm not but um well i think uh a crash out was coming sooner or later anyways you know what i mean
00:14:35so i'm kind of glad it happened uh a little earlier if uh if haney beat me that night do you think this
00:14:41spiral would have been worse or actually might have just saved you earlier i have no idea isn't that funny
00:14:47i know it's so weird because i should have lost no way there's no way that could ever be replicated and
00:14:54that's where when these young boxers were trying to do that i'm like no man i'm sorry it's a high
00:14:58risk strategy it's not the right one don't do it um and to this day i still don't know how i did it
00:15:04to be honest because i would you remember of that period like that that fight build up and then then
00:15:08that day and it's so weird because like when you're drinking all the time the the timelines become so
00:15:13mashed up sometimes i think it's the other training camp i was in like in dallas so it's so weird but
00:15:19i remember uh i remember that i was feared fueled with so much anger that's what it was i was so angry
00:15:30at the world and at people and how they seen me as a fighter and how they see me as a person how even when
00:15:39i wasn't sword on sword crashing out they still judged me like harshly on everything i do but other
00:15:45people there's no judgment so it's like dang i feel like i'm getting targeted with the you know with the
00:15:52ruling stick and then i just crashed out and i was all right you guys want to see a piece of
00:15:56shit i'll show you a real piece of shit i'll drink i'll smoke and i'll and i'll you know talk so much
00:16:03shit and i was just so angry i was angry at the boxing community because they never gave me my
00:16:08credit you know i've been fighting since i was seven and i was looked at as some just bum that's
00:16:13gonna just get his ass whooped by this guy even though i beat him three times in the amateurs it's
00:16:17not like you know and i was a 15 time national champion so i just felt really disrespected by people
00:16:23and just life and i was like all right i'm gonna give them what they want they want a bad dude i'll
00:16:29give you a bad dude and uh like i said i let them change me for a time i let them break me and become
00:16:37a person that i'm not and uh i was just feeling anger and i wanted her to mad that's all i was
00:16:43thinking in my head i like when i came with the shirt murder on my mind i was dead serious i wanted to
00:16:48murder that man in the ring but he also wanted to murder me he said it he said he actually was the
00:16:53first one to say it he was like uh he's like we're gonna we're gonna this is the death of ryan garcia
00:16:59and then i i just snapped when he said that i was like oh you want to go death all right let's go
00:17:05so yeah that i just remember that time as i was feared with anger and nothing was gonna stop me
00:17:11i didn't care i got i got in fights with my trainer my dad everybody i was just angry everyone's
00:17:16getting it inspiring like they were screaming and i was like i don't care let's keep going
00:17:21like i was just filled with anger at that moment and uh anger and emotion i would cry a lot too i was
00:17:28crying just so mad about what people were calling me crazy and things like that you know and then
00:17:38you know a lot of the stuff i was talking about okay yes a little bit was played into conspiracy and all
00:17:44that but when it came to like the children and you know children sex trafficking i was dead serious
00:17:49about that like that was been on my mind since i seen uh i may have always known about this kind of
00:17:55stuff it's kind of always floated around but then when it's like in your face and and now like
00:18:00now that everybody sees it it's kind of different but back then it's like
00:18:05if it's a billion dollar industry like where's all the money coming from you know what i mean and it was
00:18:10kind of that thing that i felt like they're within enough said and that there's so many other movements
00:18:15that people get behind but like kids like we can't all come together and be like hey i should probably
00:18:22look into this it really did upset me and i was already angry so all that together just kind of one
00:18:29big you know boom and then yeah um but i don't regret that part you know i brought awareness to it even
00:18:40though it came out of something ugly in my you know how i you know displayed it but a lot of people
00:18:46started looking into it and they're oh it's actually kind of true and uh now that i teamed up with like
00:18:51tim tebow and his foundation and we're actually making real steps um i'm happy when were you first
00:18:57exposed to that stuff and uh it's weird man so again might not be believable but i was like in 2021
00:19:08after i defeated luke campbell i had a weird vision i don't know how but like i seen like
00:19:14it was like some image playing in my mind out and i just kind of followed it i don't know why
00:19:20but it was like a a beast or some animal coming out of a sea and then i seen like uh
00:19:27pretty much a bridge and uh and in my brain i was like san francisco and then like it just showed
00:19:32like people in the woods and then it showed people doing weird things and conjuring up weird things
00:19:38and doing weird things to like be dreaming or you like no i was awake i swear it was so weird
00:19:43just the image playing in my brain and uh i looked into like is there things in the woods in san
00:19:50francisco and it's like bohemian grove and i was like oh that's a weird thing to see and
00:19:54then i look it up and there's actually people that come into the woods that's like a straight
00:19:58coincidence so i looked into it and uh yeah then that's when you see alex jones talking about it
00:20:05and uh all these conspiracy things but then actually it was real they do meet up in the woods and uh
00:20:13they sacrifice i mean it's fake right it's effigies but sacrifice something to an owl or whatever so
00:20:21part of it is a little freaky that these politicians and people do meet in the woods but we'll get back
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00:21:53some of the different stories i've heard i don't know whether it was
00:21:57alex jones's retelling of it or maybe somebody else's that i've listened to
00:22:04sometimes i i see stuff online and i hear stories conspiracism or bad behavior nasty behavior immoral
00:22:11behavior okay that's that's someone doing something wrong and then there's other stories that i hear
00:22:17and it sounds
00:22:21i can't think of a better word like cursed like like
00:22:27almost uh forbidden yes yes yes you go okay that's something else and the bohemian grove story
00:22:37whether how much of it's true or not is one of those ones where i've just wanted to lean back a
00:22:41little bit further when i'm listening to it yeah i really don't like this i really really really
00:22:47don't like this yeah i'm too sure why i feel that too at times you're just like oh yeah and it's like
00:22:56is it all just a distraction like do we even need to be paying attention to this you know what i mean
00:23:01how much is it even relevant to to like can we make a difference if even if they are doing something
00:23:07crazy wrong you know well uh that's how i think of it sometimes certainly what seems to
00:23:14be happening at the moment if you were to think about how little disclosure there was about this
00:23:17sort of stuff 15 to 20 years ago compared with now and let's say let's say that there is some
00:23:25nasty stuff going on behind the scenes with people that are in power yeah for the last 200 years up
00:23:32until 20 years ago you had a pretty clean run deny control the media i do it in different sorts of
00:23:40ways have people killed off or or pay people off or do whatever that's not as easy to do because
00:23:47everyone's got democratized access to just hey i saw this thing and this is really weird and here's
00:23:53some evidence and everybody else can go that is weird yeah that is some evidence yeah and it's
00:24:00if i was a person in power that was doing loads of gnarly for the last 50 years i'd be like okay we
00:24:05need to change our tactics yeah this can't we can't do this anymore because things are going to appear
00:24:10people are going to be able to do research and tie little bits of red string together and realize
00:24:14like this thing's connected to this no for sure and uh you see the you see how now there's so much access
00:24:24with phones and so much access to like anybody could make a video about anything recording devices it's
00:24:31just so crazy now yeah and i think that i mean look at the you you hear talks now they want to disclose
00:24:38uh all the ufo uh knowledge it's like a lot of knowledge is like all right you guys can have it
00:24:44now like but like we can't we can't keep it we can't keep it together yeah well i mean dude look at
00:24:50the uh look at the the trump assassin assassination attempt three number three yeah exactly the three
00:24:56pete um and then everybody dying to all the scientists like that's that is that real uh there's
00:25:02definitely nasa scientists that are dying i don't know what they're working on i mean give it a week
00:25:08and a half i'm sure rogan's gonna have someone on that'll explain it all so i'll just wait i'll wait
00:25:11for the i'll wait for the rogan episode to come out but i was thinking about the videos that came out
00:25:14of the correspondence dinner where trump's getting rushed off stage and stuff every single different
00:25:19angle of that that you need someone's got to i saw this i don't know if you've seen these two so
00:25:24there's one where everybody's being rushed out of the room and there's some old boy looks like he's
00:25:28maybe in his 70s or 80s just sat in the corner just finishing his food doesn't give a single
00:25:33fuck and then there's another one of some lady uh nicely dressed lady and everyone's being rushed
00:25:38out of the room and she gets up to sort of go away from a table and before she leaves she goes
00:25:42leans back over and grabs a bottle of champagne she's like i must take the champagne with me before
00:25:46i think i was like just to have that composition homeboy's finishing his chowder and she's i i'll take
00:25:52the veuve clico with me before i leave that's going to be important for me later on it's like fair
00:25:56enough man but we've got every single angle we've got the angles of the people still eating their food
00:25:59we've got this so if you're trying to do some secret shit like eventually somebody's going to
00:26:03uncover it i mean do you see the guy that snuck onto epstein's island recently oh that was insane
00:26:08the vlog yeah you got on a jet ski got on there there's a drone above unreal that was crazy i did
00:26:13see that that that's insane and it's insane that they release it then take it back yep yeah that's
00:26:21insane too you said um you said for a good while that you were angry yeah does anger help you as a boxer
00:26:32not necessarily but you do need an edge you need some type of grit and i don't know if that could
00:26:37come through anger or just motivation but you need something that is uh fueling you but uh i wouldn't
00:26:46say like rage is not good maybe a little anger can be good but rage blinds you and then you make mistakes
00:26:54and just you know are not focused but you need some type of like all right motherfucker sharpness yeah
00:27:03yeah a little a little bit of like yeah a tad bit anger but more of aggression that's the word i'm
00:27:09looking you need aggression a little bit yeah what happens if you turn anger into aggression sorry if
00:27:14you turn aggression into anger and into rage what do you lose because for most people who don't fight
00:27:21or fight at the level that you do they might look from the outside and see two people that are trying
00:27:25to hurt each other and think well hurt is fueled by rage and anger and aggression yeah but it seems like
00:27:32you must lose something as you move down that line towards sort of greater levels of extreme extreme
00:27:39aggression yeah so what do you lose well what you lose is um that that uh consciousness of a punch might
00:27:49come back you know what i mean like when you're focused and a little bit angry you could still you
00:27:53know you could still read a punch you could still you know counter react when you get angry and like that
00:27:59it's overtaking you then you've lose sight of what could come back to you it's like when you get too
00:28:05raged up and you want to push somebody you didn't see that you know there's a car about a pass by you
00:28:09just push them into a car you wouldn't necessarily wanted to kill them but your anger rage pushed you
00:28:13and you didn't even see the car coming so it's kind of like that narrows everything down yeah yeah
00:28:19yeah too much you know and then now you don't see what's coming at you on the other side you
00:28:24know i said oh man boom it's interesting because you see i don't know the do you know nikki rod do
00:28:31you know who he is nikki rodriguez he's a brazilian jiu-jitsu guy um i went to cgi the craig jones
00:28:37invitational year and a half ago we sponsored it with newtonic nice and um it was uh single two-way
00:28:44categories and the guys just worked up on a uh bracket style event all the way up to the final and in
00:28:51between each round most of the fighters were going back to a coach they're talking uh tactics they're
00:28:57getting hydration they're doing whatever nikki just decided to sit in full lotus like with his hands
00:29:02like this like a samurai with his eyes closed and then they'd ring the bell and he'd stand back up
00:29:06and go again so you've kind of got this it was kind of a bit of a lot but it was fucking sick it
00:29:11looked sick to see nikki rod's a beast but did he win yeah and he won a million dollars oh in one
00:29:16day so it's pretty oh and one weekend sorry that's nice um to see that on one side you think this is
00:29:23the almost like that samurai energy very very very calm but it seems like you're saying that there is
00:29:28edge an edge comes with aggression that's still important and to completely let go of that you're
00:29:33actually losing something there too that there's a middle ground that's good for you yeah yeah i think
00:29:37just like uh if you have a you know a tad bit of that it just gives you um
00:29:45it keeps you it keeps you i guess in the fight like into it you know i say like if you kind of get too
00:29:56you know too calm and too like peaceful too peaceful then then it's just you lost that bit of you that
00:30:06you know i'm a killer i have a killer instinct so it's kind of you lose the killer instinct in you
00:30:10you do want to hurt this person yeah yeah of course you're in a fight yeah yeah and he's hitting you
00:30:16it would be nice to try and hurt him yeah it would be nice and uh
00:30:20yeah i i just i know for me it helps a little bit you know what's happening with conaban talk to me
00:30:25oh yeah that's uh that that is being worked on you know me and my team uh we're we're trying to
00:30:32you know finalize it and make it happen to fight that i really want but there's also other options
00:30:39you know so if it doesn't get done you know we're also looking at roley romero and other you know
00:30:44opponents that we can fight um but that fight i would love to make happen i i want that one bad
00:30:50he's been a little too long uh he actually came in confronted me at an event while i was with my
00:30:58wife and it was just crazy recently about a year and a half ago and uh i still remember that it's like
00:31:04bro we're all in suits calm down what are you doing like be professional buddy this is like it
00:31:09reminded me of the movie southpaw you know when uh he gets confronted and she ends up getting shot like
00:31:14bro you need to chill uh but yeah i i would love to make that happen but it's not done yet what do
00:31:21you make of him as a fighter i think he's a good fighter uh he's too aggressive a little too aggressive
00:31:28how so uh he's a little reckless in the ring but i do think that he has a lot of tenacity and
00:31:35he makes for a good fight and an entertaining fight every time he steps in the ring
00:31:40but uh yeah i will show him that uh there's definitely levels to this and uh yeah
00:31:47is he one i mean he's number he's number one uh so he's my mandatory right so uh yeah there's so
00:31:53many politics and so much red tape in boxing that the number one yeah contender and the number one
00:31:58title holder somehow can't make a fight work you're right easily yeah i mean that's what that's how it
00:32:04goes dude boxing's so fucking complex it's so complex yeah it is a little did the politics get
00:32:09frustrating it's get frustrating for me as a fan yeah yeah no i mean like this guy should fight that
00:32:15guy because it's the coolest one and the world champ we should do it you know i'm like i said i'm all up
00:32:21for it it's just there's some things that need to be figured out but i'm all for it i'm sure he's all
00:32:28for it and uh i'm sure it's gonna happen i'm pretty positive what you make of the zufa deal
00:32:34ah that's uh it's a little weird i don't know i don't know exactly what kind of changes they're
00:32:42trying to make to the aliak to benefit zufa or i don't know what they're trying to do and i'm not
00:32:47saying i'm against the zufa at all i just want to give it time before i even like
00:32:54want to acknowledge it too much because i don't know if it's gonna make us i get paid as much i
00:32:59don't know if it's gonna make the sport better so i kind of wanted to sit back and watch what kind
00:33:04of unfolds there it is a funny sport from the outside to look at boxing and i think what's
00:33:09particularly interesting is to see it when compared with uh other organizations especially the ufc but
00:33:15also stuff like one championship like even bkfc well there seems to be so much i'll tell you a story so
00:33:24i did a couple of degrees in the uk and i went to what's called a russell group university which is
00:33:30kind of like um ivy league similar to the equivalent of an ivy league in in the us so these are very long
00:33:37established old universities and each time that i graduated there's graduation ceremony and everyone's
00:33:43parents come and you wear your silly robes and stuff and you get your little certificate i remember being
00:33:48there and watching this parade come in and it was five ten fifteen people who were all the different
00:33:59the dean of the university and the vice chancellor and one of them had a mace like a medieval weapon
00:34:06uh but like a symbolic version of a medieval but an actual medieval weapon they all had to doth their
00:34:11caps to different people in different orders i remember looking at it and going this is what
00:34:18happens when you have a country that's not been invaded for a thousand years right like when you
00:34:21have properly invaded like it's just one culture that's been able to accumulate loads and loads of
00:34:29weird traditions yeah and then the second time which was a masters was even more weird there was more
00:34:34people weirder outfits more stuff going on it was like a academic bohemian grove right right some type of
00:34:41rituals and um when i look at boxing and the world of boxing i do see some of that it's such a established
00:34:49sport that there are i mean the first five minutes of any press conference or the start of any fight
00:34:56is this weird land acknowledgement we must say thank you to the person from this thing and this thing and
00:35:01that other thing and this person's father and i've got a fucking athlete's foot and i could do with a
00:35:06back rub and you know and now we can start to talk and then you look at something which is
00:35:12newer which doesn't have quite so much of the baggage that's come along with it and you look
00:35:16at something like a one championship or you look at a ufc you think huh from an audience standpoint
00:35:21this is a slicker experience it's quicker right you get from the thing that people don't want which is
00:35:28the bullshit and the credits yeah to the movie starting i just want the movies right and uh
00:35:34i kind of feel the same thing when i hear about we couldn't make the fight work like how many
00:35:39uh i guess mayweather pacquiao were getting that to be run back so that's kind of hilarious but that
00:35:44almost didn't happen that was supposed to happen five ten times should have happened when they were
00:35:48younger should have happened when they were in their prime should have happened should have happened
00:35:51couldn't make it work couldn't make it work couldn't make it work you think
00:35:55how like why why why can't there be a way but it's because there's all of these different territories
00:36:01basically different countries inside of a single sport who are all competing for dominance and one
00:36:05person's got this and one person's got another and it's the wild wild west you think yeah it is
00:36:11everybody's like yes there's like like you said it's very established and has a rich history and
00:36:16you know the major players are the major players but everyone's pretty much it's a free-for-all
00:36:23everybody's out for themselves and it's like hopefully the business makes sense that two
00:36:29entities just come together all right let's do it yeah yeah so you know a bit of it is is kind of fun
00:36:37because like everybody gets a chance to make something huge happen but you know the sad part
00:36:44is that a lot of the fights don't happen because a lot of these promoters become greedy and they want to
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00:38:12fights don't happen is it money disagreements uh i would say splits money and some of these fighters
00:38:21over value themselves sometimes or they act like they really want to fight but they really don't
00:38:28so they hide behind the promoter and say oh we couldn't make the deal work when secretly i just
00:38:33didn't want to step in the ring so a lot of it's that i do think that boxing could become a little bit
00:38:39more uh slicker and sleek like you said with the you know ufc like we could cut out a lot of the
00:38:46bullshit you know there's new ways to to promote a fight then the standard
00:38:55you know i mean but
00:39:00i feel like boxing like a lot of people were trying to say it was dead and stuff but
00:39:05i mean we've been doing just fine you know what i mean financially wise so i mean it must be making
00:39:11some type of money because a lot of these boxers are getting paid pretty well but
00:39:17shoot uh i'm all up for change but as long as it makes sense as long as it's like all right we're
00:39:23evolving in the right direction and not like i don't want it to become the ufc that's what i'm saying
00:39:29like zufa's cool but like it looks too much like the ufc that i'm like uh not my vibe and then you
00:39:35can't wear your own shorts like bro your sponsor that's not gonna go away yeah you you won't get
00:39:41that out of me yet you know you don't have to i don't know what you would have to pay me but
00:39:47i just i like the style of boxing i like you know shorts i like the walkouts i like the the grand
00:39:53entrances that you could do you know ufc is just the guy walking now like i like the whole spectacle
00:39:59i like the entertainment part of it you know it's fun and if they take that away i'm just gonna have
00:40:05this there's a difference between
00:40:09getting rid of the but keeping the heritage yeah and respecting the tradition right you don't need to
00:40:16get rid of everything no but we can all say there could be some fat cut off yeah for sure yeah yeah
00:40:21yeah yeah yeah don't don't lose what makes boxing boxing what is the ali act what are the changes i
00:40:27haven't i don't know this i i don't know exactly what changes but i know that i don't know if it's dana
00:40:33white or i know nick khan spoke at the congress and oscar did for oscar on the side of not changing
00:40:40anything and then nick was trying to change things that's kind of what i got out of it and then um
00:40:48something about how um it helps everything be transparent i know the ali act like they have to
00:40:56show the numbers and it's a financial decision exactly and then i guess
00:41:02i don't know if they're trying to change it where we don't get to be disclosed the numbers
00:41:07i can't i don't want to speak for it because i don't really necessarily know interesting but
00:41:11that was oscar's point oscar's point was this was made to protect the fighters and make sure that
00:41:17everything's just transparent but who knows talking of the money thing a couple of years
00:41:22ago you said that jake paul's not a real boxer yeah has that changed after his joshua fight
00:41:28no he's definitely a real boxer for sure um he has balls man i mean it's the fact that he
00:41:35fought anthony joshua is pretty insane uh knowing that he's not even a heavyweight so
00:41:42now he's there and he is definitely earned respect um but i think uh it did humble him just a little
00:41:49bit like i mean josh had it'll typically humble somebody yeah i mean a broken jaw would probably be
00:41:55like all right maybe i should shut my mouth because i can't even move it but dude i mean i the people who
00:42:03saw that happen and also saw his response let's say what you want dude that was a
00:42:07fucking elite response to having your jaw cracked by a guy who's what did he say when he was on the
00:42:13ground oh he was like whoa that was hard yeah yeah i fucking bet it was dude that is so good funny
00:42:20nah jake's always been that type of dude man he he doesn't miss a moment for sure yeah you remember
00:42:25he's hyper aware of that that too yeah yeah well it's kind of like the first assassination attempt
00:42:31for trump where immediately he's like i mean i have just been shot a little bit but this is a great
00:42:36opportunity the same stretch it's like i think i might have broken my jaw and i'm definitely knocked
00:42:40down but this is a great opportunity right right this is probably a you know a clip farm yeah yeah that
00:42:47awareness is but i uh i mean he's got that deal now with netflix uh so money his own promotion yes
00:42:54that's pretty sick as somebody who's not a boxer yeah right to come in and do it no you got to give
00:42:59credit you know at the time obviously people and myself included were just i was just annoyed how
00:43:04he would always talk about me so you know i found my ways to talk you know but uh we've always been
00:43:11cool here and there and i think uh now i think we're on a better page now it's interesting right
00:43:17because so many people especially with boxing i'm not sure whether what would be an example of a sport
00:43:22that people could do when they could start as an adult maybe something like distance running endurance
00:43:26racing triathlons um most skill-based sport you're not going to start tennis at 20 and become a legitimate
00:43:36professional tennis player that'll be very hard i think dionte wild has started boxing relatively late
00:43:40yeah he's one of the few bernard hopkins sergio martinez uh those are the ones that come to the top
00:43:45of my head realistically though it's a sport that you start as a baby kid for me they started at three
00:43:53yeah at tiger woods with golf at two two yeah and he actually was hitting the ball good it's
00:43:58better than me yeah better than both of us yeah combined yeah um and i think that there's a
00:44:05there's a kind of appropriate gatekeeping that happens right it's like you don't get to speed
00:44:10run this with clout that this is a sport that you have to earn your stripes in it's to do with being
00:44:16hurt and that means that and everybody knows that there's ways to piece fights together with
00:44:23fuckery and red tape and weight classes and experience that allow you to have a wonderful
00:44:27record without actually having done anything that's that impressive for sure all of that together
00:44:31allows you to create the illusion of being good at it without not i don't know whether the same thing
00:44:38is true for winning a triathlon that while you're going to get the entire field of other people to
00:44:42not be that good even that your pace is compared with somebody else's yeah as opposed to in boxing
00:44:47it's just are you better than that guy and now are you better than the next guy and are
00:44:50you better than the guy and the crazy thing is a lot of the casual people can't tell the difference
00:44:56they can't they don't know if jake paul is not a world champion or is he or is he world champion
00:45:02of they they can't they could only see him beating anderson silva who's not a fighter like he's not a
00:45:08boxer but he's a ufc champ so all they see is jake paul is beating these fighters fighters that are
00:45:14names you know what i mean he's beating ideas so it's like it was a little frustrating because jake
00:45:21was good at writing that and making it seem like he was like muhammad ali and like with tro like that
00:45:26but like you said boxing is one of those things that like you have to be in the game for a long time and
00:45:31that sacrifice is like only boxers truly know like we had you have to go through a lot to even get to
00:45:37that moment there's also a level of skill i think that you access from doing it for so long i mean
00:45:43you were saying before that you're doing a couple of hours of pad work a week and the rest of it's
00:45:49just i want to feel good yeah because those rhythm grooves those movement patterns are you know you
00:45:56you could get like alzheimer's dementia everything you could get set on fire and the thing that would
00:46:01be left in your brain would be how to dodge your part yeah exactly you'd still be that would be the
00:46:05last thing that would go yeah right yeah um just because it's been done for so long yeah you know
00:46:10more than pretty much anything else and the question i always had in my mind with jake was how much can
00:46:16someone speed run learning skills that usually the time that you need just like the literal like eras
00:46:25of duration that you need yeah is longer yeah i mean the thing is you know people i don't know because
00:46:32they didn't care that he lost to tommy fury and tommy fury is not even good you know what i mean i'm
00:46:38sorry for taking a shot but like he's not like high level at all so people ignored the fact so i don't
00:46:45think you know he was speed running the the fact that he was getting these huge events that were
00:46:51like can he pay the number you know that people don't even dream of and they you know work your
00:46:57whole life so i think that upset a lot of people i think that's where it was well people want to sell
00:47:02tickets right when you talk about pay-per-view gate numbers rah rah rah there's two ways to get there
00:47:07one of them is to be really really good so good that people want to watch it and the other is to just
00:47:12have another way to make people want to watch you yeah it's like what's that thing like love me or hate
00:47:16me you're gonna buy it exactly yeah and i watch all jake paul's fine you know what i mean how many
00:47:21people have come to boxing because of that yeah you you know we don't know but we do know that people
00:47:26like to watch them you know and that's just the facts of it and uh you know if it was making boxing
00:47:32you know bigger in a way i'm all for it i love boxing so if good came from it i'm all for it what
00:47:39you make of the mayweather paquette fight uh it's ridiculous it's truly ridiculous like
00:47:47i mean i don't really want to see that you know they're the first fight was kind of boring
00:47:53the second fight should be even more boring you know they're not even close to their prime
00:47:58um it's kind of sad like why do they feel like they need to do that like are they broke you know
00:48:05there would only be like a couple reasons why they would want to do that didn't pacquiao just buy
00:48:10mayweather's gym and take a photo outside of the yeah i don't know if that was i think he bought his
00:48:16franchise right you know but and pacquiao is essentially royalty yeah oh pacquiao people i mean
00:48:24so i just don't get the sense that he's broke but i don't think pacquiao's but i don't think he can go
00:48:28broke because people love him in philippines like they'll always take care of him correct he's
00:48:32essentially the king yeah exactly uh mayweather i've heard things but i don't know if he's but i've
00:48:40watched a couple of youtube videos that break down the burn rate that mayweather's got and i just i
00:48:45mean it's really probably his security i mean to have because i had i used to have 24 security for
00:48:51like three months and i seen the check i'm like okay no absolutely not how much is three months of
00:48:5624 7 security for somebody like you i mean in the six figures because it's 24 7 and i was like bro this
00:49:06is ridiculous i i because i i needed security i forgot why some was just going down and i was like all right
00:49:13i'll pay for it but then i'm like i look after the three months i'm like no i look after myself dude and
00:49:18i'm like yeah i'll just never use security like i'm cool okay like if people want to hurt me i i guess
00:49:24why i don't know why they wouldn't i don't wear jewelry i don't i can walk around crazy like young
00:49:29la top yeah exactly so i'm like they want to run up on me i'm like bro you're hitting a little sweetheart
00:49:35i don't know bro you could take my shoes yeah but um yeah so yeah that's that could be a reasoning
00:49:43i mean he's taking private play i know those costs a lot um but then again like he always talked about
00:49:50investment so who knows i really don't know if he's i think in terms of athletes that have generated money
00:49:56i think that mayweather must be up there i mean would i don't know who they told what they said
00:50:03that he made like maybe a billion in his group i don't know whether that's gone to him or whether
00:50:07that's money generated across the board but whatever it is it's lots right the number is lots and i
00:50:13suppose yeah you're right there's the worst position to be in is to be somebody who has all of the
00:50:19challenges of fame but not the money to be able to deal with it so imagine if you needed security but
00:50:24whatever it was that you were doing that got you loads of attention didn't really pay
00:50:27that well you'd be like oh fuck like i really could do with being protected from my fame but my
00:50:33fame didn't make me any money so i can't pay for the protection that would really suck that would
00:50:37but the next thing is like well maybe it's just you just get this lifestyle inflation you i've got
00:50:45an assistant two assistants three assistants i got a house i got a holiday home aspen jet second jet
00:50:50car car fleet car manager wealth manager where's the money going before you know it you're like jesus
00:50:56christ this is so big and unwieldy and uh how do you think about that how do you think about avoiding
00:51:03getting the the financial thing too messy the team growing too much people who don't have your best
00:51:10interests at heart this aided by the fact it's a family matter i got lucky because i had to learn
00:51:16that lesson early you know i mean i got paid a lot of money when i was like 20. i started getting paid
00:51:21like i already made like my first million at like 19 and 20. so i learned quick how fast money can go
00:51:29and you're just like wow i had a no i don't i was like i had a million they definitely said that in my
00:51:38account but now it's gone um yeah you just realize taxes is a real thing and you're like ah god like
00:51:45i can't really be buying all that you know what i mean i was like about every car i wanted and then i
00:51:51realized this is stupid and then then i went through a little gambling type of thing i like to do and then i
00:51:57i was like this is even more stupid than the car thing yeah that thing was stupid yeah yeah and then
00:52:03you kind of just realize like all of it's pretty dumb yeah yeah this is a waste of money and nobody
00:52:09really even cares and and it's just like it's just like all just like stupid at the end of the day it's
00:52:16like all material materialistic things that you don't really get anything out of it you mean unless
00:52:21you're trying to impress a girl or whatever but that's maybe it and most girls like the ones that are
00:52:26impressed by that stuff are probably are you probably not the ones that you want to be be around but yeah
00:52:31i kind of learned all that quick and then uh and then i just have a good good good squad good good
00:52:38team around me that cares and they don't want me to go broke and i don't want to go broke one day
00:52:43it's too many stories like that mike tyson ran through 100 mil and and he ran it back in the 90s so
00:52:50fuck yeah what's that worth today it's probably 250 something like that yeah serious money yeah
00:52:57yeah i don't want to end up like that so i just kind of i i just know that i have to be focused
00:53:03and keep my head straight and uh and just try my best to to not make any big financial mistakes
00:53:12anymore yeah yeah yeah well again you know in some ways i suppose learning that lesson going from lots
00:53:20to not so much yeah on a million that's a good lesson to learn where you go ow i i'm not broke but
00:53:27i'm like back to basically baseline right after i had a lot that's a good lesson to learn on a million
00:53:32yeah it's a worse lesson to learn on a hundred million exactly so the same way as you said you know
00:53:36there were some lessons that i missed in my teenage years that i had to learn in my 20s well there's some
00:53:40lessons people learned in the 40s that you managed to learn that's why that's why i feel blessed i'm
00:53:44like dude i learned a lot of all this like pretty early like everything i wanted in life came pretty
00:53:50quick like i wanted to be a superstar fighter and i became quick and i wanted this and it came quick
00:53:57but then you're like oh like i'm actually happy it came quick because if it didn't then like i said
00:54:04you would learn it 30 35 years old 40 and you're just like with more money with bigger problems with less
00:54:09opportunity to make more too correct yeah i can't fix it in the same can't fix it so i truly am blessed
00:54:16but you know you you could always make a mistake you know i mean you could always go back down on that
00:54:21road you know your vices could take you there your ego your pride well i got this much money now i could
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00:55:33fit for all times i'm friends with a couple of guys at the moment who are um really trying to get
00:55:40their lives together but have a like very high level of exposure and a couple of them are in the same
00:55:46way that you are your 24 7 security they basically have 24 7 lifestyle watches to ensure that they
00:55:52don't go off the rails imagine like a sponsor to kind of but they're also a coach assistant driver
00:56:00like just hey we need to make sure that you don't fuck up that that's how tight the set of uh train
00:56:06tracks are that they're on it's a i mean it's not bad you guys do it for a training camp right we're
00:56:11gonna yeah everybody the whole team there is an intense thing there's no moment unless you want to be
00:56:15alone that you are alone there's always someone to keep you know i did a tour around australia new
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00:56:27spend time on the road the ones that are the happiest and have the best mental health and the
00:56:31ones that are the unhappiest and i think that you have bands who have objectively a pretty shitty
00:56:37lifestyle tour bus sleeping in a tiny bunk even a really really good band if you're on a proper tour
00:56:43you're going from dallas to san antonio to houston back to back to back with shows you're in a bus
00:56:48dude and there's only so nice that a bus can be and if it's a big band you're in a bus sleeping on top
00:56:52of each other like even good big bands so but they seem to be pretty happy and then you think next
00:56:59step down might be comedians and i think that comedians have a little bit more room they don't
00:57:05need as much crew with them but the problem is because you don't have as many crew people with you
00:57:09you're on your own more maybe you got a warm-up maybe you got a tour manager but you know the
00:57:15mid-level good quality comedians most of the ones that i know that are doing gigs around the us they're
00:57:20like i got on a flight on my own and uh you know maybe i'll fly in business maybe not you're probably
00:57:24in business or whatever but i'm not flying private and i'm on my own and i get there and i do my gig and
00:57:28i go back to my hotel maybe my warm-up's there and we can hang and then the worst one djs the
00:57:33reason that the worst one is to be a dj i used to run nightclubs for ages djs have the worst lifestyle
00:57:38i think one of the worst lifestyles because they are always on their own unless they take a tour
00:57:43manager because you don't get to when you get booked at a nightclub you don't get to say i'm bringing my
00:57:47warm-up with me you don't have a sound guy you don't have a director you don't need anyone right a band
00:57:54needs the roadies and the guitar tech and the drum tech and the lighting director and the all of this
00:58:00stuff and the dj just has two usb sticks and it's oh yeah it's true later at night loads of drugs around
00:58:07loads of alcohol around true and there's always an after party and you can fit these gigs together back
00:58:12to back to back to back to back i was like right okay so i'm gonna go and do this tour around australia
00:58:17new zealand bali i did north america last year and you you can island later this year i was like i
00:58:23don't need really anyone i probably need one tour manager to make sure the venue's okay
00:58:28but 10 people came because i want to do what the bands do because they seem to have the best mental
00:58:34health they seem to enjoy it the most their sharing experiences it goes well they celebrate it goes
00:58:38badly exactly and it's the same as being in a uh a camp yeah no i understand i have my whole my
00:58:44whole squad pretty much live with me and uh yeah honestly that right there it just keeps things
00:58:53you know um it just makes things uh bearable i mean there's no other way to put it you're with your
00:59:04boys at least you can talk to them about things or anything hey guys let's play some video it could be
00:59:10anything honestly you being by yourself just sucks you know a lot of people say oh you can't be by
00:59:16yourself they always tell me that and i'm like i don't really want to be by myself like i don't know
00:59:21like i'm cool to be by myself but like like why is that a flex you know what i mean it's like i love
00:59:27companionship i love you know my brothers i love talking to people i love conversating i like picking
00:59:33people's brains no matter who they are you know what i mean i just like i just love conversation
00:59:40i love you know i love that it's just because you can do it on your own doesn't mean that you should
00:59:45yeah and uh it's all the intangibles you maybe it would be quicker or you wouldn't need to compromise
00:59:53as much you're certainly be fucking cheaper there's lots of different advantages you can see that are
00:59:57really obvious but all of the the disadvantages that you would miss are like well i'm going to be
01:00:02lonely and i'm going to be in my head and that probably means i'm just going to be scrolling
01:00:05my phone and that's going to fucking suck and oh dim scrolling is the worst if you wake up
01:00:10start scrolling i swear that's ruined day's ruined you get it it's the day is ruined before it started
01:00:17like i need to play my my like my just like meditation type of sounds before i even get close
01:00:25to the phone because oh my god it'll ruin my day because i'm just like this and i'm like i catch
01:00:29myself like i already told myself in bed for an hour what is going on here what is this phone doing to
01:00:33me why do i magnetically want to go and do that every time so weird every time uh i'm interested in
01:00:41what you think about conor mcgregor's trajectory because you're both guys who fight you're both guys
01:00:46that have partied and that like to party what's your perspective on his journey uh
01:00:54it's it's a it's it's one of those ones that you know see did he learn too late you know you know
01:01:02obviously we were talking about how like i'm happy that i learned you know as you know younger person
01:01:09it seems that you know i want him to be back though i want him to be back but i also know that like
01:01:15how old is he 30 probably five no something like that it's a little tougher to rebound you know um
01:01:23but he's one of those people that you know he he's a icon to his sport he's just a man he's just a
01:01:31g you know what i mean and i want him to really be like i want what path he's on to be like i want that
01:01:38to be real like if it's uh if it's his path with god and if he's found faith and uh and that's where
01:01:46you know he feel like his his motivation is driving out hopefully it's real you know i want it i want
01:01:51whatever he's gonna do i want it just to be real i want him to fight keeps on talking about a comeback
01:01:58doesn't happen how long has that been three years four years right or i don't know longer it might
01:02:03it might be you could tell me it's been five years since he fought yeah i wouldn't know yeah i can't
01:02:07remember and it's not as if the last few fights have been exactly drenched in glory either one stoppage
01:02:14like injury stoppage or whatever it was and then khabib and then i don't know it's just i think dustin
01:02:22yeah just i i don't know it's just it's such a shame dude it's such a fucking shame and the more
01:02:28that i think about it the more it's just sometimes i think about different versions of the universe
01:02:34where one thing happened or didn't happen and the the version of the universe where mcgregor kind of
01:02:39didn't get lost in the source right it's like oh my god more of those aldo moments of him just being
01:02:46like a like a samurai zen master type thing maybe it happened to him for a reason what if what if he did
01:02:52do that and he was that guy how much crazier would he maybe yeah yeah and he learned a lesson at 50.
01:02:57right right exactly um we'll never know i i just wish the best for that guy i hope he uh hope he could
01:03:06make uh i want to see him win one more good fight yes if he just does that i'm cool legacy saved
01:03:14a great i think he's got one fight left on his ufc contract yeah and uh yeah man i hope it i hope it
01:03:23happens but after a while there's a little bit of you know all of the bravado it becomes harder and
01:03:30harder to do the longer since you've fought and the older that you get right you're able to do this
01:03:35because you've still got bags of career ahead of you if you want to and you can well i feel like
01:03:41there should have been an evolution in it like you start off this young guy like connor bravado
01:03:47talks a lot of then you become this you know legend and you come this og and the og has to be more con
01:03:55more stoic more don't worry i got this like i've done this long enough watch what i do you know
01:04:02the opposite happened with a little bit of trash but then it just kept on going you know there should
01:04:07be some type of evolution there well i guess what actually happened because like mayweather stopped
01:04:11kind of being so very true you know that's a good point yeah yeah that is a really really good point
01:04:16as somebody that was one of the biggest talkers and then it toward the end of his career was just
01:04:23i'm gonna beat you and you're not gonna be you couldn't you couldn't fucking phase the guy
01:04:27no he already knows the game too much like when you know the game too much it's like all right
01:04:33talk and whatever like he already knows all the entertainment shit he's just there to be
01:04:38floyd mayweather i'm gonna come i'm a professional i'm here to do a job yeah exactly so i think he missed
01:04:43the evolution yeah yeah he did there was a a firmware update like the ios update didn't come there
01:04:51that's something that is kind of scary to see you know you were talking about aggression rage anger
01:04:55different components of how how a fight is sort of put together there is something really terrifying
01:05:01about somebody that just sees you as like a job to be dispatched like if you were to look if you were
01:05:07a plumber and you were to look on your day and you said i need to replace this toilet at 11 a.m you go
01:05:12okay you're just the toilet i'm replacing at 11 a.m this is just a standard day in the office for me
01:05:17thank you very much i'll see you on the other side like i'll see you once the toilet's fitted that's like
01:05:21oh my god i'm just a task i'm just a i'm just on the to-do list for today yeah i'm not even an event
01:05:28really i'm just like something that i'm moving through and when you see that with people you go
01:05:32like holy fuck yes like what am i getting myself into yeah are you worried are you conscious around
01:05:42long-term health stuff we talk we hear a lot about cte about tbi about brain health yeah how much does
01:05:48that factor in as somebody that's been doing this since seven years old this talk i imagine when you
01:05:53were the ct talk would have only come in in your teens like to have been really high levels of awareness
01:06:01honestly once uh it kind of got big with the football i forgot what year that was that was
01:06:06kind of the year that everybody started questioning oh like we should probably all start thinking about
01:06:13our house but it's also like look man i've already accepted whatever happens to me it's okay i just
01:06:23try my best to not look into to that type of future but if it happens i hope that the people
01:06:29that love me take care of me that's it you're just happy for that to be a side effect of your chosen
01:06:34career yeah because i i try to put all my decisions uh and let it be guided by god so if that's just uh
01:06:45the nature of what i've chosen to do and what i felt like was the right thing to do
01:06:50that's just what it is and there's really nothing i could do about it i mean but boxing
01:06:54avoid getting hit would be a good start oh yeah for sure um and i try my best to you know what i mean
01:06:59obviously i'm still feeling clean never broke my nose thank god you know what i mean so i'm doing
01:07:04pretty good in that in that aspect but like i said if it happens it happens but i hope not
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01:08:17modern wisdom have you ever noticed anything has there been any
01:08:22i don't know memory loss stuff no i just feel like i've always had mental health problems i don't
01:08:28know if it comes from boxing but you know little you know anxiety sometimes um a little bit of like
01:08:37bipolar-ness but
01:08:40i've always kind of been that way like i don't know i don't think you get to yeah the level of
01:08:46obsession and focus without having need without having something in there you mentioned edge
01:08:51yeah that edge comes from somewhere my edge is that i am an obsessive thinker of like situations
01:08:58positions all right i'm here like like i'll study one position and and like where i'm at for like a long
01:09:05period of time because i'm like all right i know there's something more here you know what i mean
01:09:09and i'll get to that but it really is it's a lot of it's just with boxing and god like i don't really
01:09:15like to obsess over too many things but like boxing for some reason i could just like think about that
01:09:20moment so many times like okay that's where it was okay he'd do that but that's like i could you
01:09:25know if i shift here boom i could catch him quick and he might not notice like there's just a lot of
01:09:31you know with my brain with that it's just i love it so much that i just want to study that can you
01:09:35remember a position is the one that comes to mind that you spent a long time thinking about
01:09:40that then ended up being an unlock is there a particular sequence that you that you spent yeah
01:09:45even when i was like young i remember this i was sparring this kid and he kept catching me kept
01:09:51catching me and i was like i remember going back home and just thinking about it for like
01:09:56two hours three hours like why is he catching me with that and then i i i i had remembered i
01:10:03overthought about it so much that i was like all right dad i called my dad to the room i said call
01:10:09him back like i have something for him like let's go and he goes are you sure like he was pretty much
01:10:15whooping your ass like let's just wait a little bit i was like no call him the next day i figured
01:10:20something out and it was a when he would step forward he would show his jab so like he would
01:10:28step and then show the jab so i had caught on to it in my brain when i was replaying it so i told my
01:10:33dad every time he makes that move i'm gonna cut to the to the right and hit him with a right hand
01:10:37and i guarantee you he won't stop that because he can't stop doing this
01:10:41so every time he came in and i would catch him and my dad was like how do you figure that in a day
01:10:47i was like i don't know i just kept thinking about it like he kept on catching me with that shot but
01:10:52there has to be something that like i'm doing wrong or i'm not reading or something and my dad's all he
01:10:57always thinks about that story he's like that's all i knew like you're different because i would i could
01:11:02come back the next day and it'll i'll be a whole different fight like i don't know how but i just like
01:11:08the next day like the guy if he thinks he got an edge like bro i've been thinking about this all
01:11:12day so i try to tell my little brother like after swan you need just think i go in your room and just
01:11:18think think think like why did this happen why did that happen like like what was he doing that was
01:11:25throwing me off there was a couple instances like that in the ring it's like hmm there has to be
01:11:30something here you know what i mean so yeah i've learned so much things in boxing like
01:11:36just the whole aspect of it it's like it's almost like music notes i started learning that like
01:11:41like and when you're the ring it's like boom boom boom boom and then when something fills off that
01:11:45means because some note was off you know i mean like some movement okay oh i read that wrong that's
01:11:50where it was okay boom so it's like it really is like a whole level of just like beautifulness like
01:11:58that's why i said i really love boxing there's so much little things in it that like
01:12:03get me excited it's so fun have you been able to do that during any of your fights as a professional
01:12:09or have there been how often you surprised by that you say most of the time presumably you're
01:12:14studying tape you're thinking you're bringing fighters into the the gym and the camp that
01:12:19replicate the style that you're probably going to face the whole game is to not be surprised yeah when
01:12:24you get in there but presumably that's what the other guy's doing too yeah which means that they're
01:12:28trying to come up with something that you don't yet know which might surprise you which means that you
01:12:32need to go back and you've got forget two hours in a day yeah you've got a minute in the corner to be
01:12:37like yeah why is that thing happening is there have you ever had that happen as a pro no honestly i
01:12:44haven't i it's been more of so like when i'm on point and like when you know i'm in a good mental space
01:12:54nothing will surprise me because it's like i've already been thinking about like i've been looking
01:12:59at every scenario like the times i've lost um i literally it comes from a place of like
01:13:08self-sabotage and like i wasn't even in the camp i was just kind of letting the day go by
01:13:14and just kind of like not being there and i know it probably sounds like an excuse but that's just what it
01:13:20was um were they the better fighters that night for sure and i always give them credit on that but
01:13:26you know me at my best is uh when i'm thinking like this when i'm paying attention to every day when
01:13:31i'm everything is uh like intentional like when i wake up how i woke up was intentional on the phone
01:13:38not on the phone and i'm reading things i'm letting you know that inner wisdom just kind of
01:13:47flow me through the day you know what i mean i'm on track uh when it's like that it's hard to surprise
01:13:52me because uh i've been paying attention to everything so but now when i fight somebody
01:13:59it's like what surprises me is like oh wow they're really talented like they're fast that's cool you
01:14:04know what i mean like it won't be like a move or like a a shot that will surprise me just be like oh
01:14:09this guy he's on top of his game that's cool you know what i mean but as far as like a technique or
01:14:16anything it's kind of it'd be hard to surprise me but uh i feel like i've surprised people because
01:14:22a lot of people they'll be seeing that move they're like where do you even come up with that stupid move
01:14:26i look stupid but am i getting hit so i've been thinking about this i've been like mayweather he does
01:14:32a shoulder rope but he hides behind it a lot and people think like they call me off or turning my
01:14:39back but i'm just giving them the side and then you can't really hit me on it but everybody makes
01:14:44fun of me on it but i have not got hit once doing it so guys come on you call you called the silly
01:14:53shell they called the silly show right it's all good you're there to do a job dude yeah and if you
01:14:58dispatch someone yeah it's so funny to think about um obsession obviously it's it is very much a
01:15:03double-edged sword it's the sort of thing that can cause you to be obsessed with politics or porn or
01:15:09your ex or drugs or gambling or partying or status or money or how people see you yeah but it can also
01:15:16if you direct it in the right angle be the thing that causes you to completely change your game in
01:15:22the space of two hours as a professional sports star it's the sort of thing that can cause you to
01:15:27obsess over how well you write or tell stories as a writer that would be cool now that like i would
01:15:34want to learn how to do that like writing for some reason it just seems so like like if you could get
01:15:39a high level where you could make somebody feel something just by a sentence and you know it's
01:15:44going to hit that's pretty sick and what my housemate at the moment is just finished the first draft of
01:15:49his book which is going to be amazing and i'm watching him all he does every single day is in the spare
01:15:56bedroom and the house that we live in every wall is covered in post-it notes everything he's just
01:16:02living and breathing this book you know in uh in ai and chat gpt and stuff like that there's an idea
01:16:07of a context window and it means how big is the uh sort of world of information about what you're
01:16:14talking about that the ai has reference to so if you have a real long chat the context window is super
01:16:19huge if you start a new chat the context window is smaller his context window for his own book
01:16:25is like three galaxies big right he's got all of these different stories and he'll come downstairs
01:16:30and tell me i just learned this story about phil collins and how he wrote um like uh in the air
01:16:36tonight or how he wrote this song or the and it's so cool and i'm watching like you did i'm watching
01:16:42somebody who is so obsessed that my point being most people go through their lives without ever
01:16:48getting an obsession that's worth anything people can reach the end of their lives having either
01:16:53never been obsessed or only being obsessed about stuff that wasn't worth anything so if you're the
01:16:58sort of person who has an obsession that's pointing in a positive direction you really shouldn't waste it
01:17:04no it's a wonderful thing it's free motivation it's free discipline it's not that you as a kid had to
01:17:10be forced to train you couldn't not train all that you wanted to it wasn't like someone went into your
01:17:16bedroom after you lost that fight to that guy that kid and said you need to think about this for two
01:17:21hours if you told me to go and play video games i couldn't i can't not do this thing that's very true
01:17:27free discipline free motivation and that doesn't last forever and what you need is while the
01:17:35while the tide while the currents with you to sort of ride down now okay i'm going to do what i'm
01:17:40called to and i think that's what you were talking about up top of like i get little whispers yeah
01:17:44sometimes these fleeting thoughts these nudges that move my life in different directions i'm going to
01:17:49follow those because in future they might not be there and you missed them you missed them it's like
01:17:53the neon sign kind of just went past it like damn but i could have seen what was it what was it yeah
01:17:59it's cool just to see what it was you know what i mean yeah and just you know kind of see where that
01:18:05goes but yeah i always told people my biggest fear in life well because when they asked me like is it
01:18:09death is i was like no it's just not reaching my potential and just wasting it because i know i have
01:18:14so much so it's like that that just scares me you know pressure is a privilege dude hey i appreciate
01:18:20you i'm fired up to see what the rest of this year has for you thank you you're the man sir
01:18:24appreciate you until next time yeah goodbye everybody i'm gonna try this get it in you
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