00:00:00HBOT talked to me about that.
00:00:01I was messaging you the day that I started my HBOT
00:00:05was the day that you put your video out.
00:00:06And I'm in there and you were like,
00:00:08I can't remember what the fuck you,
00:00:09you replied with 20 and five,
00:00:1483% with natural blah, blah, blah.
00:00:19'Cause I'm in this big fucking metal dildo
00:00:21and the guy that's there, Vance,
00:00:23from Beam Hyperbarics in Austin,
00:00:25if anyone wants to go to a great hyperbarics place,
00:00:27it's fucking sick and bucket by the hour, Vance is great.
00:00:29And I'm like knocking on the little,
00:00:32this tiny little portal out of my submarine
00:00:35and he comes in and I just showed my phone.
00:00:38I'm like, what's that?
00:00:40I couldn't be bothered to use the radio to get outside.
00:00:42I'm like, Brian, Brian messaged you.
00:00:44Are we doing this?
00:00:45And you sort of went.
00:00:46- That's so funny.
00:00:48- Yeah, put his thumb up like that.
00:00:49So hyperbaric red pill me.
00:00:53- When you messaged me, I was worried about you
00:00:55because a week before somebody had blown up in Arizona.
00:01:00So yeah.
00:01:01- What does that look like?
00:01:02- Well, so in hyperbaric, the idea is you pressurize.
00:01:07So you're actually, so at atmosphere at sea level,
00:01:11we're about 15 pounds per square inch of concentration
00:01:16of oxygen at two atmospheres or 30.
00:01:19So you pressurize and some hyperbaric chambers,
00:01:23they pressurize and then they just push
00:01:25100% oxygen into the chamber.
00:01:28So you're just hanging out and breathing the oxygen.
00:01:30But if you're doing that,
00:01:31you're sitting in a pressurized chamber
00:01:33and you're basically a flammable.
00:01:35By a bomb.
00:01:37- You're a candleweight.
00:01:38- You're a bomb.
00:01:39So if something, if there's a spark of any type,
00:01:42you just blow up.
00:01:43- Your phone or some device that you've got with you
00:01:46or whatever the fuck.
00:01:47Okay, no, no, no, no, no.
00:01:49This was, I was not, I had the,
00:01:53I was breathing the mask.
00:01:53I was doing stuff.
00:01:54- Cool, great.
00:01:55Okay, cool, yeah.
00:01:56So yes, hyperbaric oxygen therapy,
00:01:58I think today it's fair to say has been
00:02:01the single best performing therapy we've ever done.
00:02:05And this is both good news and bad news
00:02:08because the bad news is that it's expensive,
00:02:10it's inaccessible, it's time consuming.
00:02:12- Super inconvenient.
00:02:13- So it sucks because I hate sharing this
00:02:15because people, it's very exciting,
00:02:17but then it sucks because people can't do it.
00:02:19- I mean, if you're already to say,
00:02:21I've got to find a sauna to use
00:02:23and most people don't have a sauna in the house.
00:02:25Oh God, now you tell me I need to produce my own oxygen.
00:02:28This thing weighs fucking two tons.
00:02:31I don't, where does it fit?
00:02:32- Totally, yeah.
00:02:33And like who has 90 minutes in a day to go do this thing?
00:02:37So I would just say for people who have a serious condition
00:02:42and there's a variety of conditions that this could address,
00:02:46like even cognitive decline or, you know,
00:02:50wounds for diabetes.
00:02:51- What would be on the list?
00:02:52- Like, so there's a lot of emergent evidence
00:02:55for a cognitive decline that if you're entering
00:02:58the latter parts of your life and you're really struggling,
00:03:01this could have a meaningful impact on that.
00:03:03It is used for diabetics who can't heal very well.
00:03:06It's used for healing.
00:03:07So people who've had surgeries
00:03:09to accelerate the healing process.
00:03:10If you have some kind of injury,
00:03:11you're really trying to overcome, that can be great.
00:03:13So like there are some--
00:03:14- It's telling me that some athletes post surgery
00:03:15are in 90 minutes, three times a day.
00:03:17- Exactly.
00:03:18- They're trying to hit that 90 session number within weeks.
00:03:22- Yes.
00:03:23So like there are some specialized applications where,
00:03:25and people where it makes sense for the person to do,
00:03:28but I just want to be very sensitive.
00:03:29I understand like it sucks to hear
00:03:32something's really efficacious
00:03:33and you can't get out of exclusion.
00:03:34Yeah, it makes sense.
00:03:35So like, but yeah, we basically, like we do with all things,
00:03:38we measured, we had this, we cast this really wide net.
00:03:41We measured everything we could.
00:03:42My brain, my microbiome, a full blood panel, saliva stool,
00:03:48metabolomics, proteomics, like you name it, we measured it.
00:03:50And we just found improvements across the board.
00:03:53It was really, because most therapies will improve
00:03:56like this particular marker or that marker,
00:03:58but rarely do they have this broad spectrum improvement.
00:04:02So we saw like the cognitive decline marker,
00:04:06PTAL217 drop, we saw a microbiome.
00:04:08I had zero dysbiosis in my microbiome,
00:04:11like no signatures at all of dysbiosis.
00:04:15We saw, I had no detectable inflammation in my body.
00:04:17So like when my HSCRP came back, zero.
00:04:20- The 99.99, like he's beaten the test.
00:04:23- Exactly, it was really remarkable across the board.
00:04:26And so it was really efficacious.
00:04:27I did 60 sessions over 90 days and I've continued to do it.
00:04:31I've now done something like 200 sessions
00:04:34over the past year or something like that.
00:04:36So I just have it as part of my routine.
00:04:38I do it, you want to be careful not to do it too much
00:04:41because you'll have oxygen toxicity.
00:04:44- Yes.
00:04:44- You want to have some-
00:04:45- But that's why the five minute break is so important, right?
00:04:46- Yeah, and I also take like a week long break.
00:04:48I'll do a sprint, then a week long break.
00:04:50So you just need to be careful
00:04:51'cause you can overdo it and cause harm.
00:04:53- What was the protocol of mask on, mask off?
00:04:56- 20 minutes on, five minutes off.
00:04:58- Cool, yeah, I was doing that.
00:05:00The one super fucking annoying thing there is
00:05:04it's very relaxing to be in,
00:05:06it can be very relaxing once you've pressurized,
00:05:09but you can't sleep.
00:05:11- Yeah, exactly, you're busy.
00:05:13- Gotta take this thing on and off.
00:05:16- One of the things that I really enjoyed doing
00:05:19was HIV resonance breathing while I was in there.
00:05:21Have you got into resonance breathing yet?
00:05:23Have you been doing it in the H-bot?
00:05:24- Yes.
00:05:25- So much fun.
00:05:26- Yeah, it is.
00:05:27- So much fun.
00:05:28There's a product that I got sent,
00:05:31I think in the first person outside of the company
00:05:33to have got it, it's this little lamp.
00:05:34I wouldn't be able to take it in,
00:05:35it would all fucking hell would break loose,
00:05:37but it's basically a resonance breathing stone
00:05:40and you pick it up and it's got an FDA approved thing in it
00:05:43and the lamp goes up and down and you put it back
00:05:44and it's done.
00:05:45So you don't need your phone,
00:05:46so it's brilliant.
00:05:47But elite HRV is what I was using with the strap.
00:05:50I'm gonna guess you'll have seen.
00:05:51One thing that I noticed about that,
00:05:53it's a niche issue.
00:05:56The strap that came with the elite HRV thing,
00:06:00which you put on so that it can detect
00:06:01like real high fidelity, high Hertz heart rate thing.
00:06:06The button that you use to press to turn it on
00:06:09has a tiny little air pocket around it.
00:06:11So I got into the fucking H-bot
00:06:14and by the time I'd pressurized to get down there,
00:06:16the button had been smashed and I couldn't press,
00:06:18there was no air to press the button.
00:06:21And then I was like trying to press it
00:06:23and it's just like SpongeBob when he gets outside
00:06:26of the water.
00:06:27So anyway, H-bot, so I mean a couple of questions on this.
00:06:3260 sessions as quickly as possible, basically,
00:06:36to start to accumulate.
00:06:39'Cause it's not like a one and done type of thing.
00:06:42I think I asked you this at the time.
00:06:45I'm interested if there's any more information.
00:06:48Going from state change to trait change,
00:06:52is this the sort of thing that locks in?
00:06:55I'm aware you haven't then tested coming off
00:06:57and seeing what the tail of this is.
00:07:00But the same thing goes for sauna.
00:07:02Are you just fighting entropy with this?
00:07:05Is it something that you just need to do?
00:07:06Or is there any, 'cause I think there's a,
00:07:09I certainly know in me, if I look at a therapy
00:07:11or a modality or whatever,
00:07:13and I find that there's no carryover,
00:07:18I feel despondent, 'cause I'm like, fucking hell,
00:07:21like I've just found this new thing.
00:07:22Here's another thing I have to do.
00:07:25Does that make sense?
00:07:26- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:26It's because both you and I are on the other side
00:07:29of the entropy curve.
00:07:31The dealer you want is youth, right?
00:07:34Like when you're 12, you just keep on getting better.
00:07:38But once you cross over to your--
00:07:39- Slow down, slow down.
00:07:41- Exactly.
00:07:42They just, every day they get up and shit's just better.
00:07:45But yeah, you and I are both on the other side
00:07:47where we're on this irreversible decline.
00:07:49And so yes, you've got to keep it up.
00:07:51But one thing people are not aware of with HBOT
00:07:53is it's the best skin rejuvenation therapy in the world.
00:07:57So a lot of people-- - Better than red light,
00:07:59better than microneedling.
00:08:00- Everything.
00:08:01Better than the vampire facials, better than any laser.
00:08:03It is because if you look at the data on the biopsies
00:08:07of rebuilding collagen, elastin, and reducing senescent cell,
00:08:11it basically remodels your entire skin.
00:08:14It's not just face.
00:08:15Every layer of skin you're remodeling is really remarkable.
00:08:19If you look at people, if I see people now,
00:08:22I can tell a signature of HBOT skin.
00:08:26It's very, very clear to me what it looks like.
00:08:29And so it just, it happens.
00:08:31So yeah, that's the other thing is a lot of women
00:08:34who really care a lot about skin, HBOT--
00:08:37- Getting the fucking HBOT.
00:08:38- Then you, if you pair, like the best banger protocol
00:08:42is to, for skin, is to pair the best devices with HBOT.
00:08:47So you basically, you do like a surface level,
00:08:50like a 1550 nanometer to resurface the skin
00:08:52for like spots, wrinkles, stuff like that.
00:08:54Then you do HBOT and you can accelerate the healing.
00:08:56- Is that microneedling?
00:08:57Is that what you're referring?
00:08:58- No, it's just a laser.
00:08:59Like a 1550 nanometer laser where it's like,
00:09:01it's a very benign laser if you do it right.
00:09:05It has lower risk of like pigmentation issues.
00:09:09For wrinkles, spots, just like for texture.
00:09:12And then you can do a deeper device,
00:09:14like a softwave, S-O-F-W-A-V-E,
00:09:16where it's ultrasound, where it's 1.5 milliliters below,
00:09:20millimeters below the dermis.
00:09:21So you hit top layer and underneath the dermis.
00:09:23So you're rebuilding collagen
00:09:25and the entire scaffolding of the skin.
00:09:27And then you do the HBOT and then you accelerate the healing.
00:09:30So you basically do more sessions in this, yeah.
00:09:33So that's like--
00:09:34- You do an acute like skin rejuvenation thing
00:09:36and then fuck up.
00:09:37Kena, are you still here?
00:09:38She's outside.
00:09:40I think I did softwave
00:09:41'cause I went to your dermatologist in LA.
00:09:44- Which one?
00:09:45- Fuck, I can't remember the lady's name.
00:09:46It was in, that was why I had a mustache.
00:09:48I grew a mustache 'cause I needed to get rid
00:09:50of my facial hair because they needed to do that
00:09:52in order to be able to, I'm pretty,
00:09:53I'm almost certain it was softwave that I was doing.
00:09:56- Was it like, it felt like a--
00:09:59- Cigarette burn that never actually got to a bone.
00:10:01- Exactly.
00:10:02Yeah, like you're being singed by like a hot metal iron.
00:10:06- Yeah, but it never actually peaks to the,
00:10:09it was a really interesting lesson in,
00:10:12and the, blowing the cold shit, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:15It was a really interesting lesson in pain that
00:10:20because what you realize is you ride this crescendo
00:10:25for the people that haven't seen it.
00:10:26It's literally as if someone was to put something really hot
00:10:28out on you and when that happens, there is a swelling,
00:10:31there is a crescendo, but it usually peaks
00:10:33that you can almost hear it, right?
00:10:35If you ever put alcohol on an open wound, that's--
00:10:37- Yeah.
00:10:38- It goes like that.
00:10:40But it doesn't ever get above a six or so.
00:10:44- So if she did, if she set the settings to 3.5 joules,
00:10:49which is the lowest setting, then it gets pretty tolerable.
00:10:52If she goes to 4.2 top end,
00:10:54'cause basically it's a total energy per area.
00:10:57- I think I had it at around about three point,
00:11:00I think she had it at 3.6, 3.7, so I was being a weenie.
00:11:03- Okay, yeah, so if you have the 4.2,
00:11:05where it basically like it cuts down the number of pulses
00:11:07by 30%, if you want to like zip through it,
00:11:09God damn that, that is so painful.
00:11:11- No, thank you.
00:11:12- Oh man, it does, it just feels like a red, hot iron.
00:11:17- I'm all right, I'm all right, no more, thank you.
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