00:00:00Hello people big news, I'm on tour in Australia
00:00:02But I couldn't wait to share the brand new studio and a brand new episode style with you. There's no rules. No structure
00:00:08It's just me hanging out and I'm bringing some friends with me
00:00:12Enjoy the episode. See ya
00:00:27What's that thing? There's a thing that people have where they hate the sound of like these ophonia. I have it real bad
00:00:33No way, dude, if I hear you eat cereal next to me, I'll try to break your neck. It's the world all women have this
00:00:40I saw this video of some guy that's got one of those big tubes and it makes up
00:00:53So that kills but it's worse dude like a like when people do the mukbangs with their microphones Oh
00:00:59the visceral rage
00:01:02You know that they're eating into a fucking JBL microphone
00:01:06That's crazy who was like the king mukbanger that sigh up to everyone Oh Nikato avocado. Yes. Thank you
00:01:13Joey chestnut. Yeah. Well, he ballooned. Yeah, and then and then and did it Wow, but he got like
00:01:23Peak fat and then had peak views on that one video of like yeah, and then what happened to my life
00:01:28But he was losing weight the whole time so the videos were old and he was like crashing out and crying and obese and then
00:01:36All of a sudden he just shows up. It just filled up a pound lighter and he's like hello
00:01:39I have changed it was the weirdest fucking video ever really like has on the back of your neck
00:01:44This guy's maybe a psychopath. Yeah, like they cloned him for something. It was crazy
00:01:50It was fucking wild. All right. What do you got? I want to hop straight in I do. Okay, show me what you got
00:01:55Um, let me I tell you I'll give a story. Let's tell you a story about the worst phone call of all time
00:02:02You have my interest. Okay, so it's
00:02:06Picture this we're gonna go back to
00:02:081970s Surrey in England. There's like a beautiful old farmhouse called old Croft and a musician has just moved in and
00:02:18He's in a band and they've just had their first like top 40 song. So
00:02:23it's at that point of a musician's career where either this is like we're about to take off or we had that like one blip on
00:02:29me that and he's just
00:02:31mortgage like the most insane house for like his wealth size like way above his income because he's betting on his future success and he's
00:02:38Like this is the childhood sweetheart dream. He met his wife when they were 11 years old in drama class
00:02:42And they got two kids together. So they've moved into this house together
00:02:45It's beautiful old farmhouse with the two kids and like he's managed to get the deal on it
00:02:51So it's slightly cheaper than he can afford but it's still way too expensive, but the whole thing needs a whole paint job
00:02:56It's like the whole building needs a load of different work kind of like this stuff here, right?
00:03:00And so he he has to go on tour
00:03:05Go try and crack America to see if he can pay for this house. So he's kind of leaving the house
00:03:10There's painters there doing everything up and he's kind of saying goodbye to his family and as he's saying goodbye
00:03:15He doesn't know if this is going to be the last time he sees this house
00:03:19Or if this is gonna be the new family home, so he goes on tour for a year. Um and
00:03:24surprisingly the tour goes really really well, so he's basically gonna pay for this mortgage and
00:03:30At the end of the tour. He's having a phone call of his wife and it's not going well and she
00:03:34Basically confesses whilst he's been away. She's been having an affair and
00:03:40Like his heart just drops. He's like who so he starts thinking over. It's like a singer or somebody else in the band
00:03:46The guy she was having the affair with was the painter. He was paying for the house
00:03:52So he like got he just lose his mind. He ends up flying back from the tour tries to win her back the
00:03:57Not only can he not win her back. She basically says I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving to Canada
00:04:04so he sits down the band and he says well, I
00:04:08Think the band's over. I've got to go. This is no remote work
00:04:11I've got to go and with a fly to Canada and try and put my marriage together
00:04:13So the band say hey, we'll just do a solo hiatus. We'll go solo and we'll get back together
00:04:17So he goes to Canada for three months
00:04:19Putting it putting the marriage back together
00:04:22Flies back three months later. It's completely failed
00:04:25and the only place he has to stay is he goes back to this old house and
00:04:29He says he walks in and he says the paint was still wet with the man who cuckolded me
00:04:35so he got he can't so he's just fuming so he leaves goes to his favorite restaurant orders a ravioli and
00:04:42He's just staring at this ravioli. He's starving cuz he's not in days and there's ravioli staring at him staring back at the ravioli
00:04:47He just can't eat. He goes back to the house
00:04:49It's just his old derelict house that he's made all this money and paid for but his family are no longer there
00:04:54So he starts drinking he's calling her and she's ignoring his calls in Canada. He starts drinking. He's calling her finally
00:05:01He goes well, I've got to start channeling this thing. So he decides he looks at the
00:05:07Master bedroom that she slept with the guy who was on his payroll whilst he's on tour and goes well
00:05:13You know what? This is gonna become my new music studio. So he starts like channeling all the energy that's coming up and
00:05:19As he's like in the moment
00:05:22He grabs the invoice from the painting and decorating company that slept with his wife and he writes a song on it
00:05:30Okay, so should I play I've got on my phone. I'll play the song. You ready? This is the song that he writes
00:05:34You're shitting me so that's how Phil Collins wrote in the air tonight
00:05:51It's on the invoice of the painter that slept with his wife. And what's interesting? What's fun? Did you know this story?
00:05:58What's so what's funny about this? Um, this story is
00:06:02But he well anyway, so whilst he's in this house or in this new music studio that he's created
00:06:18He then is in a fugue state writes against all odds which goes on to win a Grammy
00:06:22So he makes that song then against all odds the next day. What's interesting about the story? The funny part is um
00:06:27What he makes against all odds
00:06:29Obviously becomes a smash here on the radio and there's a guy in Manchester
00:06:32Who's listening to the song on loop because he split up with his partner five years ago his girlfriend five years ago
00:06:38So he's listening to this song thinking about her sees her a bus station
00:06:42Um, and they end up going out on a date spend all night till 6 a.m. They get back together
00:06:47Within six months are engaged. They have three children second child was me
00:06:51So the whole wall so the whole thing
00:06:57Oh
00:06:59Yeah, yeah with the toothpick yeah, yeah the second child was me
00:07:04So, yeah, so when you so what's beautiful when you relisten to that Phil Collins
00:07:10My dad basically love that song when he stood up with my mom, okay, okay
00:07:26You know which room that was
00:07:28So, yeah, what's crazy is when you relisten to that so I think that song is incredible anyway
00:07:37It still holds up 50 60 years later
00:07:39But when you now re-picture him in that old master bedroom where it all happened and the lyrics often when you go back
00:07:45Yeah, what is he saying? Is he saying something that's like direct or coded?
00:07:49What was that part in there?
00:07:49Like if you gave me if you was drowning I would not lend a hand
00:07:53And it talks about you've been smiling or wipe that grin off your face, right?
00:07:57It's all about him falling doesn't sound like a breakup song on first listen
00:08:02But it is yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Dude. I fucking yeah, that's such a fantastic one
00:08:08What was it that we found out the other day that Dolly Parton wrote?
00:08:12Two of her fucking biggest Google what two songs did Dolly Parton
00:08:21Jolene Jolene and
00:08:23Fucking like working nine-to-five or something in the in the same day
00:08:29She wrote them in the same day fucking out raise. Yeah Wow
00:08:33There's a bunch of those examples of these bursts these bursts were like I think the Beatles famously did this where they recorded like a fucking
00:08:40Album in a day or they did like they had like this insane burst of their greatest hits in a very short about five
00:08:46What was Jolene and I will always love you. Yeah. Wow in the same day
00:08:51She mentioned in interviews that she wrote them during the same songwriting session and later joked. That was a good writing day
00:08:56Wow, so nonchalant. Hey, I think Bobby Darien's Splish Splash was wrote written in 20 minutes or something like that
00:09:03Have you guys heard the full rocky story the Sylvester Stallone rocky backstory? No. Oh, this is what I'm saying
00:09:09you know this one so Sylvester Stallone wants to be an actor and
00:09:13You know, but he's got this like birth defect. So when he was born, I think the doctors they did something
00:09:20That's why he has that crooked smile
00:09:21So he had like a medical almost like malpractice issue when he was born that messed up his face, but he wants to be an actor
00:09:27He's a talks kind of funny faces kind of funny. So he's not getting any roles keeps going to casting auditions. No role. No role
00:09:33No role. So he says alright if I can't get casted in somebody else's movie
00:09:36I'll write my own so he goes to his house and again like sort of in that fuse state
00:09:41He basically does two things. He paints all the windows black. He's like, I'm not leaving this house
00:09:46I don't even want to know if it's night or day until I finish the script. He hates writing
00:09:50So he's like I just got to do this fast because I hate writing
00:09:53So in three days, he writes the script for rocky and he has in the story of rocky
00:09:58Which is like this average guy wants to be a boxer, but it's not really happening for him
00:10:02This is the story of him wanting to be an actor, but he just shows boxing because it's more like physical like knockout punch
00:10:08It's easier for the audience to understand but it's his story
00:10:10And so then he goes and he pitches the script and people like actually the script is pretty good
00:10:14He's like awesome and they're like, well buy it. It's great. He's like and I'm rocky and they're like, no, no, you're not rocky
00:10:19Well buy the script, but you're not rocky. And so he has an offer
00:10:21I think for a million dollars or something like that, which at the time was a lot of money and he
00:10:25Turns it down. He ends up taking I think
00:10:2925 grand or some ridiculously low amount of money for the script, but he gets to be rocky and
00:10:35He's struggling to make ends meet. He literally he's like eating like canned beans
00:10:41He ends up selling his dog because he can't feed his dog
00:10:44So he's like his dog was his only companion in the world
00:10:47He goes he sells it to a guy and gets like a couple hundred bucks for his dog
00:10:52And then it's just like fuck. He's just literally rock bottom to film rocky
00:10:56He basically films the whole movie on like a million dollar budget handheld camera. No permit sneaking into things
00:11:01They film rocky that way. Okay, rocky becomes this huge hit. He basically gets this money
00:11:06He goes and he first thing he does he goes back and buys back his dog. The guy doesn't want to sell it to him
00:11:11He's like I love this dog and he ends up paying 25 grand to get his dog back
00:11:15And then that was basically the the start of Sylvester Stallone's story was this like three-day bender
00:11:20He had to write the story of rocky. How insane is that guy in the film as well, right?
00:11:25And that was part of the deal
00:11:26It was like I'll give you 25 grand and you get to be a cameo in the movie and he's in the movie rocky the guy
00:11:31He's like by the liquor store is the guy who he sold his dog to I didn't know
00:11:35Shit, I didn't know that so isn't it better than the actual story. It was George
00:11:39Sylvester Stallone is George's dad
00:11:44You've got the nose for it
00:11:50So
00:11:58In prep for this episode when you told me what the the theme was of adult show and tell I got on X
00:12:03For the first time in I don't know a year. I never use that platform goldmine. What the
00:12:08What are you about to show us Twitter?
00:12:11I found this beautiful new app was bought by a prominent billionaire
00:12:16I think no it I don't know how but the algorithm was so curated to me despite me not using it because of I think the
00:12:22one-off articles that my friends send me and one of the articles he sent me was I
00:12:27Think I think I've got it in there under
00:12:30GLP ones nuke the ability to love have you guys heard about this? I saw this
00:12:34You guys see this super interest. This is great
00:12:36Okay, so we initially thought GLP ones like Ozymptotic and red a true tide just reduced food cravings now
00:12:43We know they work for alcohol cocaine gambling and other addictions, too
00:12:46But do you know what runs on exactly the same circuit falling in love?
00:12:50GLP one receptors sit in the exact same brain regions that light up when you're in love
00:12:54The insane thing about them is that they don't just suppress appetite
00:12:57They suppress wanting in general including romantic craving another person
00:13:02Something like 60 million people are now on anti desire drugs and it happened in the blink of an eye
00:13:08I predict in the coming years. We will see people on these drugs be less able to fall in love
00:13:12We will also see them fall out of love or be unable to feel it in
00:13:16Relationships that were previously great if your girlfriend or boyfriend started taking GLP's and your relationship started failing. There's a good chance
00:13:23That's why this sparked. I went back to what was his name. Can you scroll up a bit? Dr. Shin? Young Shin Young Yang
00:13:30This story of trying to pronounce that just now
00:13:33You're the courageous
00:13:39But he said it's instantly what is courage with taking action
00:13:43I think the this I went back to his Twitter today to find this. Holy shit
00:13:50He created a storm in his mentions of people coming after him for this cuz is he a I look at this profile picture. Oh
00:13:57Perhaps I didn't look that deep. Why does he have a golden?
00:14:01He might be after that tweet his big pharma got him now, I'm kidding running a plastic surgery clinic in Busan, Korea
00:14:09I bet he is busy as fuck
00:14:11Think about how many Koreans get plastic surgery dude. I know it's crazy. Oh, he's just anti
00:14:17So he's back. He's very anti GLP's he's been hammering this for days
00:14:21And he said that a bunch of physicians that sell GLP's came after him because they're shareholders and it's all part of the big scheme
00:14:27But there's basically I think this is rooted in theory and it makes sense theoretically if it acts on the same dopaminergic pathways
00:14:34But the very concept of the fact that it doesn't just kill your appetite. It just kills your drive in general
00:14:39It just gives you the dopamine fill
00:14:41Works for more stuff than just food, which is pretty interesting
00:14:44Yeah, it seems to work on weed. It seems to work on behavioral addictions alcoholism
00:14:48Gambling. Yeah gambling. So the fact that like what is limerence? What is attraction, you know, it's the same thing
00:14:55It's this dropping of serotonin. It's massive increase in epinephrine norepinephrine dopamine. It's just rush rush rush rush rush like a very obsessed crush phase
00:15:03There's a really interesting thing. That's similar to that
00:15:06pssd post SSRI sexual dysfunction, so
00:15:12When people are on SSR eyes the sex drive can go down
00:15:15But if you take them for a long enough period or if you take them especially during puberty and increasingly more young people are getting them
00:15:21prescribed when they're young
00:15:23This can lock in for the rest of time
00:15:25You can get genital numbing but the pathways that just allow you to feel what's going on during sex
00:15:32They get muted your drive get so there's all of these groups of people who are trying to re ignite re kickstart
00:15:39There are they're probably the ones that watching the fucking BDSM port. They need to escalate
00:15:43but yeah the
00:15:45between that and hormonal birth control for women
00:15:48driving down the sex drive and making them choose guys that they wouldn't be attracted to if they weren't on it and
00:15:53GLP's and SSRI like it is the sex recession is just no one's having sex at all
00:15:58it's just not a surprise if you're having sex you're in the minority if
00:16:02Kissed armor calls you up and says we're gonna make you
00:16:07Chief sex officer. What what do you do to what do you do to improve the situation?
00:16:11Well, you can't pull people off SSR eyes because some of them need it and even if they don't need it
00:16:16they're gonna rebel so that wouldn't be good couple people off GLP ones because
00:16:19It's also gonna be pretty bad. And maybe they were gonna die soon, too. I think
00:16:24Coed spaces dating should be allowed at work. Obviously. There's always gonna be some blast radius of side effects that happen
00:16:32You're gonna get in trouble because there's gonna be some guy that doesn't take no for an answer and is blowing through boundaries in a wrong
00:16:37Way, but I think a big part of it is making guys braver because guys were already pretty timid and approaching women now post
00:16:45Me too. Everyone's terrified
00:16:47so
00:16:48trying to
00:16:50Reencourage men. I mean you've heard me do this before but like
00:16:53The me to instruction of men. Don't be pushy with women
00:16:59only landed with guys that were already nervous with women the dudes that were blowing through boundaries and
00:17:04Really needed to have the me to revolution like hit them. They just didn't take any
00:17:09Take took no heat of it. These are advice hyper responders, right?
00:17:13That's one my favorite ideas of yours the advice hyper responder
00:17:16So advice doesn't land evenly it sort of distributes more like alcohol than it does medicine the people who really need to take it
00:17:23Unchanged while the people that are already overdosing on it take too much. So
00:17:29Think about the advice to just work harder the lazy person who spends all of their time on the couch
00:17:33They they're unchanged. They don't even see it apply to them
00:17:37Whereas the person who already believes like they're not working hard enough that pushes them to work even more
00:17:43Take more responsibility the the girl who believes that everything is already her fault
00:17:49Decides that she needs to bear even more of the burden and carry bags that aren't hers
00:17:54when the person who points the finger elsewhere just again coasts past it unchanged the
00:18:00instruction for men to open up and be more sensitive the existing sensitive guys who are already kind of
00:18:06Opening their hearts far too much and crying at things that they shouldn't do
00:18:10They take that as an indication that they're already emotionally insufficient
00:18:14Whereas the stoic boomer just you know, no impact at all. So
00:18:19It's one of the problems with giving blanket coverage advice
00:18:23It's why on the show and with everything that I write now
00:18:26I'm so much more hesitant about saying this works for everyone
00:18:29It's almost always caveated with if this sounds like it applies to you. It probably does
00:18:33But then you've got the advice hyper responder thing, which is maybe just confirms your fears
00:18:38Maybe it already pushes you in the direction that you were going previously. So yeah, it's a
00:18:44It's a difficult world to navigate when there's a lot. What's that naval line? If you take enough self advice take enough
00:18:51Personal development advisor all just nets out to zero. Right? It's just for every every maxim has it
00:18:56I actually think that's useful in a way because when you have two people that you deeply respect the
00:19:02Completely the opposite you almost go you kind of it's like two things pulling you in that direction
00:19:07You kind of stay still as a result like one of my favorite stories of all time was
00:19:12No, it's the greatest tennis match of all time as where it's called and it's Novak Djokovic versus Rafael Nadal
00:19:19It goes on for five sets. I think it's about seven and a half hours. There's a rain break in between
00:19:25I think Nadal takes the lead Djokovic takes it back Nadal takes the lead. There's a tie break
00:19:32That's about 70 minutes long. Well one tie break is 70 minutes long
00:19:35They finished the game and I think it's 140 a.m
00:19:39And Djokovic just collapses and there's a part is this amazing part in Djokovic's biography
00:19:44Where he's talking about discipline and he's talking about this is what it takes to win and he's describing how in the aftermath of the game
00:19:53He's sat in the dressing room
00:19:55Exhausted and he's not had any sugar because he's been so disciplined and so focused because this is what it takes
00:20:00He's not had any sugar in I think it's three years leading up to this
00:20:04So he allows himself like a tab of chocolate on his tongue and he lets it melts and he says I stopped then
00:20:13Immediately and I was back preparing for the next tournament. Well what I love about this story didn't even shoe it
00:20:17It didn't just let it melt just let it because this is shows you like what it takes that the discipline
00:20:22Meanwhile Australian Open three years later Roger Federer wins and eats ice cream every single night. Yeah, and it's like oh like there's
00:20:29Djokovic there's Federer and it's not that either of them were wrong. They kind of just did what worked for them
00:20:35And that's why I kind of like collecting
00:20:37Completely opposite piece of advice. It's so for example
00:20:41Stephen King wrote
00:20:43His entire novel or all his work just raw dog in it
00:20:48He would just turn up cup of coffee start a blank screen make it happen. JK Rowling used a spreadsheet for the whole of Harry Potter
00:20:53So it's just as a handwritten spreadsheet. I've seen yeah, there's a handwritten spreadsheet
00:20:57So there's like just different approaches and when you get to the top of any craft
00:21:00You'll notice that you'll have it's same with investing right Warren Buffett does almost only investing things
00:21:05He'll understand reads everything and who's the guy who does it all via algorithms?
00:21:10Like Jim Simons like Renaissance capital everything by our algorithms both billionaires multiple times over. It's really interesting going
00:21:16Oh now I have to pick my own way. Hmm. Well, it's so idiosyncratic, right?
00:21:20Like you don't know what you don't know what it is. That's going to work
00:21:22The only is the the way the one thing that they all have in common
00:21:27It often is that they have nothing in common is that they've kind of done what worked for them
00:21:30That's the one thing that they actually share
00:21:32I think the underlying principle is compliance that you have to find something that you can comply to and
00:21:39that is why it's so idiosyncratic like it has to be different because
00:21:42If you couldn't comply to it, you're not going to see the results like consistency is super important
00:21:47So if Djokovic had tried Nadal's approach or Nadal had tried Federer's approach that wouldn't have worked by design
00:21:53Yeah, but wasn't it Djokovic that said I just like hitting the ball
00:21:56Yeah, that seems like kind of counter to the robotic approach that doesn't seem that fun
00:22:02Well that my friend Billy has a an amazing story about this
00:22:06They're just like hitting a ball one was when he was he was about to quit
00:22:09He was like fifth in the world spoke to his coach and gets into the hole
00:22:13I just like winning the ball and then he goes on this terror and becomes number one
00:22:16but the actual like discipline when it came to his diet was
00:22:19Was specific to him whereas Federer ice cream every night. Well, I had one to show on the advice
00:22:25Self-help advice thing. Did you see the Tim Ferriss blog? He's posted I think today or yesterday the ouroboros of infinity
00:22:33yeah, exactly, so Tim Ferriss who's like
00:22:36Helped a lot of people and been a big distributor and receiver of self-help basically writes this post kind of
00:22:43essentially saying
00:22:46Gotta be careful with self-help and but but in a pretty personal way
00:22:50I thought was kind of an amazing post about like if you go through this loop that the type of person who wants self-help
00:22:55They want to be happy and so they try to fix a problem to make themselves happy
00:23:00But in order to fix the problem, they're constantly searching and trying to fix the problems got nuts. Yeah
00:23:06This post is amazing. It's basically just like the the act of self-improvement
00:23:13can lead to that's that sort of infinite cycle of
00:23:16Searching for problems to solve to improve and then you just sort of get addicted to the medicine in that way
00:23:22How do you solve the infinite problem? Well, he actually says it in this basically. He's like there's this
00:23:28like you need you need both if you just have radical acceptance of your situation you go nowhere and
00:23:33You will ultimately not be happy with your own like lack of progress in life
00:23:38But if you only chase progress and never take acceptance to either weaknesses flaws imperfections in your life and just be able to sit with them
00:23:46Yeah, then you'll constantly be moving and trying to make progress to make yourself happy
00:23:50But you won't be happy ever. And so that's such a scroll up Jared. That's such a fucking good line
00:23:54The older I get the more I think that self-help can be a trap. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease
00:23:59Yeah, I say this after around 20 years of writing self-help and a lifetime of consuming it, bro
00:24:05This is the fucking do you know there's two types of pivots that white podcasters make
00:24:09bless you one is the god pivot and the other one the other one is the
00:24:14renunciation of all
00:24:16Yeah, it's the turns out I was over optimizing
00:24:20The other one is turns out that I just needed to give it all the cheeses. Those are the only two to pick
00:24:24Pick your direction podcast man. That's it. I chose the second one
00:24:29Hey, I went to youth thing I heard the other night Keegan told me yeah, I was like I was praising man
00:24:36I know it was it was nice. It's crazy. What is this that?
00:24:40He went to a Tuesday night young adult service at a church at Austin Ridge Church
00:24:46Didn't sneak in I was permitted up until age 40. So yeah, you said you said I went to the kids thing
00:24:52I was like interesting. Well, I mean is it wrong?
00:24:55Yeah, I think everyone's our age
00:24:57Yeah, I mean I didn't ask for ID but fair. How old are you again? 23 correct 35
00:25:03You were right about what you said, by the way, I loved the I love that line of thought
00:25:08You just brought up about the choosing which works for you in self-development. One of my favorite quotes is from dr
00:25:14Stan efforting compliance is the science. It's the same way that people get jacked in the gym doing Mike mincer's low-volume approach
00:25:20Versus someone go to the gym six days a week and doing 20 sets if they just don't stop
00:25:24They're gonna get jacked
00:25:25The only thing the only path to success is the one you just don't leave find the one that you enjoy find the one that you
00:25:30Enjoy, so this is interesting. This is another I'll never get off X. What if I did this?
00:25:35This is exactly like must have been how my dad felt when he discovered Facebook reels
00:25:43And then I was like, why is dad still in the bathroom 45 minutes later?
00:25:47It's so funny AI banned from answering legal and health care questions. This is very interesting
00:25:56I don't I don't know what truth or validity that there is to this because this is on X but
00:26:00breaking New York bill would ban AI from answering questions related to medicine law dentistry nursing psychology social work engineering and
00:26:07more and so there's this narrative of I
00:26:12Wish I had the I had someone who captured the quote and basically said something
00:26:15where now we've gotten to the point where you can get for free with the experts are charging $400 an hour for and suddenly it's
00:26:21Restricted and controlled upon. I don't know where the breadth and depth of this regulation and this bill will go
00:26:26But it's an interesting thought that now
00:26:28Readily available information is completely free or at most
00:26:32What ten dollars a month for for Claude or chat GPT chat GPT and now suddenly there's this bill
00:26:38there was like hold on and it's someone someone commented like WebMD WebMD has been giving people dogshit advice for 25 years now and
00:26:44They didn't ever get banned. Why is this suddenly an issue? Do you think it's because it's kind of personified?
00:26:49It feels like a person's giving it to you
00:26:51I mean you'll have done this before that your AI gets it wrong and then you start like shouting at it
00:26:57You try and discipline it. How could you have done that? Okay, I just need to you never did that with Google, right?
00:27:02You never said to Google. How could you have done this?
00:27:04I think it's because it feels like you're talking to another human the first thing now
00:27:08I always recommend is kind of three-factor authentication. So I'll never just speak to one LLM. I'll speak to three of them
00:27:14I know it's if I go via three the odds of them making a mistake seems to go significantly lower
00:27:19Going back to that New York thing that it feels like what are you gonna do? You can't how are you gonna control stuff?
00:27:25It's just New York are always like crazy for regulation like this that never happens never passes or never actually actualizes
00:27:31Even if they do immediately people gonna VPN and we live in the world of the VPN
00:27:34Like these regulations just are gonna have absolutely no impact apart from headlines. There's a billion users using chat GPT
00:27:40What are you gonna it's like fist fighting the wind to be like no
00:27:44We say no garden hose to a forest fire
00:27:48Yeah
00:27:48What are you gonna do when when AI first kicked off it was all the talk about hallucinations and it's definitely gotten a lot better
00:27:53And like the original line was never like speak to an LLM about first speaking to your doctor or your lawyer
00:27:58And now my line is like that's true. But also never verse. Yeah, never speak to your doctor or your lawyer without first consulting
00:28:06right at the amount of people I know personally that have fixed health conditions that they've been working the doctor for 10 to 20 years that
00:28:13chat GPT is just
00:28:15One shot it in one is is incredible
00:28:17You see that speaking of poly market poly market tuck down the will and nuclear war break out this your bedding market
00:28:25Because there was way too much trading volume happening around what's going on in Iran. Oh, wow. What is poly market?
00:28:3014 years
00:28:3668 I don't know. I don't know what poly market is
00:28:40Do you want to describe it Sean? I don't even know how to fucking say what it is
00:28:44Yeah, it's basically a casino for everything so you can go bet that sounds dangerous. They call it a prediction market
00:28:50It's kind of like the aioli versus mayonnaise like situation. So it's like Oh sports betting not legal poly market betting on a sport event
00:28:58legal somehow and so basically you can go so you can bet on who's gonna become president you can bet on who's going to
00:29:04Win this this game this weekend, but you can also bet on anything like who's gonna win or like, you know
00:29:10Will there be a strike will this guy be the president in a month?
00:29:13And so you can bet on basically any outcome and the criticism of prediction markets early on was they become
00:29:19assassination markets because you create this huge incentive to just say
00:29:23Will this guy be around and if I want money it ends up becoming a bounty. This is becoming a Deadpool
00:29:30Yeah, exactly. So that's always been the criticism and it's like oh, there's plenty of other good things about it. Like
00:29:35If you want to know the truth about how likely is something to happen if you go to the New York Times or any like any
00:29:41Just traditional news outlet, you know
00:29:44The incentive of the writer is to write a juicy headline and then maybe have they have their opinion
00:29:48But poly market is basically only people with skin in the game betting on an outcome
00:29:52So if you're wrong consistently you will lose money if you're right consistently, you'll have a bigger bankroll on poly market
00:29:57So over time it becomes the closest thing to like accurate predictions. Did they get the election right in 24?
00:30:04Yep, did they and there's a cash payout for this like you're actually gambling. It's just gambling but it's gambling with a graph
00:30:10It's an exchange. It's very important. It's gambling but there's a graph on it, which makes it look a lot more like a market. Yeah
00:30:17What's your kind of take on it? Do you think how do you think it's gonna play out over the next few years?
00:30:21Unstoppable, like I think it's gonna be people love gambling people love predicting things people need the information
00:30:27And it's growing like crazy right now. I don't know if you saw there's actually a funny story
00:30:32I think I have it on my sheet if you don't pull it up
00:30:34But there was this man and woman apparently getting divorced
00:30:37This might be a fake news AI by the way, it's like the story is almost too good to be true
00:30:41But they're they're getting divorced the man worked part-time in a warehouse but suddenly started driving like a BMW and the wife
00:30:47was like
00:30:49Can you she asked her lawyer like can you just the other way to check like how could he afford this car?
00:30:53And basically he did like a forensic audit and subpoena like kind of subpoenaed his digital wallets
00:30:59And they basically found that this guy had made three million dollars over the last year with a pretty much
00:31:05100% hit rate on his poly market bets and what he had realized there
00:31:09And so she was now gonna be entitled to three million a half of three million dollars
00:31:12But the guy fighting it in the courtroom was like well, this is not an asset. It's a strategy
00:31:17I am running a strategy that's allowing me to win. So judge was like, okay, what's your strategy and he basically was like well
00:31:24I just realized that the Las Vegas sportsbooks would update and
00:31:28The market I was betting on wasn't updating fast enough
00:31:32And so I would just bet the new odds even if the thing didn't happen
00:31:36It was gonna always match the like new odds
00:31:38And so he's like I was just arbitraging that and so he had like they audited his bets and was just all green basically
00:31:44And so there's a lot of people that have found these little arbitrages like people are sending people to let's say a sporting event
00:31:50Because they can relay what happened faster than the broadcast and faster than the like the database updates
00:31:55This was happening in Asia with soccer matches. Yeah, I swear this was happening there and someone was going over and sending it back
00:32:01Yeah, it's like if you ever read flash boys
00:32:03There was like a whole
00:32:04Quant trading thing where if they put your server close to the New York Stock Exchange server
00:32:08You could get your trade in before the guy who was doing it through ascent like a normal server
00:32:13And they're like putting fiber through mountains to like shave off pennies off of every trade essentially
00:32:18Well, so do gambling laws apply then universally to poly market when it came out. It's a gambling affiliate
00:32:23So like we can't do it in Georgia. There's basically a loophole. So
00:32:26Prediction markets are not considered gambling. They're they're like commodities contracts
00:32:31So it's like it's like betting on the future price of like soybeans
00:32:34So they're they're they're regulated by the same people who do like the commodities markets. And so that's how they've been able to get around this
00:32:42Everything everything at world events. There is no it's so much smaller than world events
00:32:47Like what color is the Gatorade going to be that gets dunked over the head of the coach at the Super Bowl?
00:32:54Anything and we're calling this it's called poly market and it's it's market
00:32:59This is like when someone says what do you do for work? And they go I'm a sanitation engineer. He's a fucking trash guy
00:33:09Every bit of life essentially becomes insider trading if if you take it further enough Wow
00:33:14It's an interesting question during the halftime show. They were like, oh is he gonna play this song?
00:33:18Well, guess what?
00:33:19There's like 400 backup dancers
00:33:20And so it was very they're getting caught cuz it's like suddenly this wallet comes out puts 32 grand on this one obscure market
00:33:27And it's like guess what? He was a back. Did you see the guy who?
00:33:29Stood outside of the stadium in the days preceding it timing
00:33:35Yeah, how long the national national anthem was going to be and he was like out there with a stopwatch
00:33:41he videoed it himself with a side cuz they're rehearsing rehearsing rehearsing and then
00:33:45Puts the bed on and wins a fucking shit ton of money because he knew exactly that was legal cuz he was outside
00:33:51It was public information and he's one of those
00:33:54radio telescope listening device things like tuning in and
00:33:58Sure enough. We need a close-up of just his face during this discussion the whole discussion
00:34:03We take a picture-in-picture cam of his face. Okay, so
00:34:06Okay, so Polymarket yeah, did you guys see the Super Bowl streaker guy his his YouTube channel no
00:34:14He put meta Raybans on right? He did. Yes
00:34:17So this guy this video is incredible. I don't watch many YouTube videos, but I watch all 30 minutes of this video
00:34:24Hang on how many he's been training
00:34:30No, no, it's so funny though the length so so this guy did it before and he's like I'm gonna do it again 23 days
00:34:35And this is basically a training montage of like a bank heist, but it's just streaking at the Super Bowl Wow
00:34:41So he's doing agility drills and he shows pictures of the security cars, which you know
00:34:45They look like event security and he's like you think they could stop me as he's doing like a shuttle drill
00:34:49This is brilliant creating. Oh, this is like he's training for the combine. Yeah, exactly
00:34:53And so he and then if you skip forward he's like on SeatGeek looking at the like 3d images of which seat is optimal
00:35:00To jump up like how high is the rail? How deep is the fall and then he has a decoy
00:35:05So he has his friend do it with him. The friend jumps first
00:35:07Everybody goes to tackle him and then he jumps second and gets a free run
00:35:12This is the run. That's the friend. Oh
00:35:15So then he goes second while there
00:35:20Soldier and then this guy you think you could stop me shake and bake and then he's up in the meds get this like Madden, right?
00:35:27in the metas
00:35:30Taken down by by an actual player
00:35:35That's unreal. What's the penalty for something like that a ticket cuz it's a misdemeanor. No, he goes to jail
00:35:41So he goes to jail for the night, but he knew that cuz it happened last year
00:35:43So he's like I gotta remember to piss before I gotta eat because I don't want it
00:35:47You know, he's like planning for his jail visit and at the end he basically responds like it's GTA because the footage comes back when he's leaving
00:35:54the jail
00:35:56And all of this was to promote his like
00:35:59Stock tips platform or something, but he got like over a million views on this. You could have bet on yourself on poly market
00:36:05He did I did he did. Yeah, he knew what the fine was and then he bet on himself
00:36:09Yeah, and he did it odds of a streaker at the Super Bowl
00:36:12He didn't want to like confirm it, but they're like pretty sure Wow him and his made a crazy bag off this
00:36:17Isn't that great? Isn't it like just insane what YouTube will it's like show me your incentive. I'll show you your outcome
00:36:23It's like what you did was basically like do the craziest shit
00:36:25Yeah, so then people do exactly the craziest fact that you try and phrase unreal
00:36:29Did you guys see this you're on X but you're not on a yo tik-tok. Yes. Okay. He is tik-tok
00:36:34There is a tik-tok that I thought was just super funny. It's Tom Cruise
00:36:38There's this Tom Cruise impersonator. And what happens is this guy invites him over to his house
00:36:43He he basically hires the Tom Cruise impersonator, but not for a party or a corporate event. Just come over to my living room
00:36:49And so I don't know have you guys seen this? He's did. Yes put the sound on because the voice is amazing. This is so good
00:36:55So it's super awkward, right
00:37:08Oh
00:37:10Hey, good to see hey my dastard plot
00:37:16You don't know what it's like to be out here for you
00:37:19Is it hot with dawn pride swallowing seeds that I could never fully tell you about just help me help choose. Okay
00:37:25What are we talking about here? What have you done?
00:37:29It's an honor to meet you good
00:37:38Oh
00:37:40What are you working on Tom deep learning would be if I'm working on a ton of things all stuffs
00:37:47You know, you do flying inverted, you know, buzzing the tower all that stuff
00:37:51You ever had a new tonic I gotta I gotta read the ingredients first, yeah, I like all these sites
00:37:58Yeah, did you put ahead of me in this new time?
00:38:00Am I in a k-hole right now?
00:38:06Healthy me one of my fear. How's the church church is good. Just good really giving me everything I need. Oh shoot
00:38:11It happens sometimes
00:38:14Miscompose myself
00:38:22How far down the rabbit hole have we gone let's go deep, okay, I don't find where we gonna go
00:38:30I feel like I'm in a fucking fever dream
00:38:34By the way, if you'd been a mass shooter we would have all been dead
00:38:37Holy shit, it's high the security in this place. How did he get in here?
00:38:45Have you ever met the actual Tom? I did. Yeah. Yeah. How was that Tom? I'm on it was a very exciting
00:38:51He was going away. Well, you know, it was two in the morning
00:38:54I was with some friends having drinks and he was having dinner with like a big group of people and
00:38:59I wanted to buy him a bottle of champagne as like a way to commemorate after an impersonating for ten years at time
00:39:04Just you know meeting him for the first time and the waiter shot me down said have you been in the Chateau Marmont anyone?
00:39:11No, how many la iconic iconic landmark hotel?
00:39:14But now it's like different different kind of place like a special like so ass kind of membership club
00:39:19But tried to buy him a bottle of champagne the waiter shot me down said you'll be banned and I'm gonna be fired
00:39:25So I just couldn't approach Tom cruise, but my girlfriend at the time
00:39:29Said there's no way in hell you're leaving here tonight without meeting him. So she was really adamant about it
00:39:34So he leaves two in the morning. I'm having a drinks with my friend beginning more progressively more drunk, right and
00:39:40Everyone's gone. It's just Jimmy my friend Jimmy myself and Donna in the Garden of the Chateau. It's a restaurant and
00:39:47she ends up leaving to go to the bathroom and
00:39:51Jimmy gets a phone call from Donna saying Tom Cruise is waiting for me in the Delhi area
00:39:57Like literally waiting for me. I couldn't believe it. So I get up out of my chair
00:40:00The sprint through the whole lobby and the whole hotel I get there and he's there with Jeremy Rutter about to get on his motorcycle
00:40:07At 2 in the morning, and we have this really nice moment. We shook each other, you know, it's an honor privileged to meet you
00:40:12You complete wish your feet
00:40:14Close talker his hands, you know, yeah. Yeah. Well, it was very exciting. I didn't go to sleep that night. It was definitely a
00:40:21Wonderful experience. Yeah, Tom. We appreciate you being special. Yes. Oh, that's all episode
00:40:27If you need anything for me just let me know, you know, you need to learn about, you know logic and reasoning
00:40:32I'm here for you
00:40:34Each volleyball tomorrow at 8 a.m.
00:40:38Where do we go from here?
00:40:55How do you think audio listeners feel
00:40:57Get a studio they said it won't drive you insane they said
00:41:06The mass shooter line is spot-on had to do something. We were completely if that guy had had a side arm
00:41:11He was here in three seconds after the door open. Yeah, he moves fast. Hey, yeah, I was telling the guys
00:41:17I was like I was like I want to do this. I think it would be fun to see something different and they're like
00:41:20Like you don't wanna throw Chris off his vibe for the first episode. I was like, I don't know think I'm gonna do it
00:41:25We're gonna do it. Anyway, that's part of the vibe. Holy fucking
00:41:28It might work, but just don't touch Chris and he went straight for the handshake. I was like, oh fuck
00:41:31Rugby tackles me to the ground
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00:42:44That's a IG HT sleep comm slash modern wisdom and modern wisdom a check out to get you back for that Sean. What's your
00:42:52What's your heritage?
00:42:54Indian Indian interesting that you say that
00:42:56Seth Stevens Davidowitz ex data scientist at Google cat wrote a very famous book called everybody lies
00:43:07analyzed Google autocomplete search frequency data for phrases beginning with
00:43:14my husband wants
00:43:16Across the world queries are relatively common. My husband wants sex all the time
00:43:22My husband wants a divorce. My husband wants a threesome. I searched earlier on today
00:43:27My husband wants a gay cation for some reason turned up quite high
00:43:30But in India in India, the most common completion was my husband wants me to breastfeed him
00:43:38This pattern appeared far more frequently in India than any other country in India
00:43:44Searches about breastfeeding a husband appear roughly as often as searches about breastfeeding a baby Wow
00:43:51We make a comment Sean bring the three
00:44:08Bonnie come on down. I think the most shocking part about that was after you relayed that bomb drop of a statistic
00:44:14I look at Sean he goes. Yeah
00:44:16It makes a lot of sense the sky is blue
00:44:21So if you look at a map porn hub release all of that
00:44:24They've got a good data science team
00:44:25Which you might not expect actually but porn have got a great data science team
00:44:29If you look at the most popular types of porn across the world varies country to country
00:44:34The absolute outlier is India with breastfeeding porn and I'm fascinated to work out why I think maybe it's something to do with the sort
00:44:42Of overbearing mother thing redemption arc some fucking Freudian shit going on or something to do with cows and milk
00:44:50Sacred I don't know. Yeah, I like how you're like explain your people's behaviors
00:45:01It's basically our version of the step-sister genre right like that's basically the I think in America
00:45:06It's like it could be a man and woman hook it up. But what if she was his step-sister or stepmom?
00:45:11It's like there's always like a step whatever in India. We don't really get divorced. So there's not really a step
00:45:16There's not really a step thing. So you just go straight to the mom. That's my explanation right to the source, right?
00:45:22It's the closest thing that you can get to like isn't there like the Freudian thing like you
00:45:26The you know, there's like desire for the mom or whatever. Yeah in early childhood speak for yourself
00:45:31Sean not that I not that I have the experience but in early childhood the Freudian thing is that there's like that's your first
00:45:36Yeah traction
00:45:37I was reading I'm reading the Elon
00:45:39biography and they were talking about because Elon's had pretty like terrible choice in women or at least like for himself like the
00:45:45Relationships have not was I had quite a big sample size. He's the common denominator
00:45:48Yeah, fair enough. But like he was with Amber Heard and it was like a pretty toxic relationship, but they stayed together
00:45:54They got back together. He was with he was with I think Tallulah Riley
00:45:58They got married and said he proposed in seven days and then they got married divorced at the divorce proceeding
00:46:04They start making out and tell the judge they don't they're gonna do go ahead with the divorce
00:46:08But then they moved back in together
00:46:09so he's done some like questionable things and his one one of his wives basically said like he's attracted to
00:46:17Like the abuse because his father was so abusive and it's basically like he there's something about like love and the intensity of a
00:46:24Toxic-abusive relationship that like fuse somewhere in his body
00:46:27So when he meets a woman who's intense and they get into like a toxic relationship
00:46:31Like he has that anchor to love somehow parental love in some weird way. So I found out some interesting stuff this week about
00:46:38insecure attachment so
00:46:41Avoidant attachment fearful avoiding an anxious attachment
00:46:44There's different types of attachment styles and about 50% of the population securely attached
00:46:50about 20% are
00:46:53Anxiously attached about 20 20% are avoidant attached
00:46:56Sorry to 5% of fearful avoidant, which is both about 25% are anxious avoidant
00:47:00What do you think is most people that have an insecure attachment style? They're not happy with it. They want to change it
00:47:06they they would much sooner not be pushing people away that they want to get close to or worried that someone's going to leave them that
00:47:11Maybe they feel like they're overreacting to their absence too much
00:47:15So I was interested to work out what the evolutionary advantages are that are conferred on people by being
00:47:23Anxious or avoidant and you think well there have to be some
00:47:26Anxiously attached people they have much keener sense of paying attention to small differences changes in the moments changes in environment
00:47:34and there was a great study done where they brought people into a setting and
00:47:40They'd already done an attachment style quiz prior
00:47:43So they understood the different attachment styles in the room and then a computer would slowly blow a little bit of smoke out
00:47:50As if there was a fire that might be about to start
00:47:53What's fascinating is the anxiously attached people were the ones who noticed the smoke first?
00:47:58But the avoidant attach people were the first ones out the door
00:48:01every single time and
00:48:04The argument here is that the anxiously attached people are able to pay attention to small changes
00:48:09They're the ones that will be scrutinizing their hyper vigilant for stuff
00:48:12But they'll think should we do we leave that's high get like do we think it's getting closer?
00:48:17Is it the avoidant people like I'm fucking out of here and everybody then follows after them
00:48:22so one of the cool things that the avoidant the attached people have is an
00:48:25Competitive advantage they work better on their own. They're decisive, but they're really good at being in calamity
00:48:31Because they're able to actually partition a bit of their brain off
00:48:35So if you were an EMT if you were dealing with some horrendous car accident some car wreck
00:48:42And you just need to get the job done
00:48:43You almost need to sort of put one bit of your brain off to a side
00:48:47You need to be okay compassion. It's not it's not time for you now
00:48:50Whereas a more anxiously attached person would struggle somewhat more to do that and I think what's cool about it is
00:48:56We don't ever look we tend to not look so much at the advantages conferred by stuff that we feel are
00:49:04Shortcomings and this is a really good example here of sure
00:49:08Maybe you wish that you weren't worried that your partner's gonna leave you all the time
00:49:11But this is why you're amazing at marketing copy or at paying attention to to brand or you know, for instance if you were a
00:49:18police unit you would want the SWAT guys to be avoidant and the detectives to be anxious and
00:49:24It's just I think it's really interesting to think about how different
00:49:28Psychological makeups give you both benefits and costs. No, no, that's a cool study about it
00:49:34I like that the secure ones just stay stay
00:49:37The secure people are the worst yeah secure people by far the weather got the best relationships
00:49:41But they're the ones that don't notice the thing and would write be burned alive. Yeah, it's like a gossip, right?
00:49:46Like gossip is seen as a negative thing to do. That's like that's a that's a trait
00:49:51You should try to get rid of it's like well, why does why did gossip survive evolutionarily? It's well, it's actually incredibly important
00:49:57I can't vet 150 different people in a new tribe
00:50:00So we need gossip to quickly spread about each person's reputation for me to like survive in any large group
00:50:06So gossip is actually incredibly important if you're gonna be in any sort of social tribe
00:50:10But it's seen as this like really negative behavior that you should stop doing. You know, I mean, you know what venting is
00:50:16So it's somebody that is able to couch gossip under concern for another person
00:50:21So it's an effect in psychology called the bless her heart effect and it really only happens among women not so much among men
00:50:27so they brought
00:50:29women into a lab and they had
00:50:32Confederate as they're called so that the person that's a part of the study come in
00:50:36Although they didn't know it two versions first version
00:50:39The woman is dressed very provocatively and looks sort of well put together like quite sexy in the second version
00:50:44She looks like a mess like not a sexual rival at all. So how much of a sexual rival is this particular woman?
00:50:50That's what they were controlling for and in both versions this woman comes in and says I slept with two guys last night
00:50:56And I don't really know what's going on
00:50:57and like I'm not really too sure about this thing and then later on she would leave the room and
00:51:01What you find is that the woman that she said it to if she was dressed provocatively
00:51:06More likely saves tells somebody else they gossip about what's going on
00:51:11But the type of gossip is what calls they called it the bless her heart effect. The type of gossip is couched under concern. So
00:51:17George I'm just so worried. I'm really really worried about Christina
00:51:22She's just sleeping with all of these guys and I'm so worried that she's gonna get hurt
00:51:26And the reason that you do that is that if anybody ever pulls you up on it's like well look Christina
00:51:30I was just like I I'm sorry. I'm just worried about looking out for you
00:51:33I'm just so worried about you and implicitly it says me, right? I would never write
00:51:38No, I wouldn't that I could never that would never be what I would do
00:51:42Also, I'm pro social look at how much I'm looking out for but also she's up to two fucking guys by the way
00:51:47Yeah, it's just the bless her heart effect. Gossip thing is is pretty fucking and what do they say about the other woman?
00:51:53They were less likely to shared at all
00:51:56They were less likely yeah, because she looked like she was down on her luck
00:51:58She didn't look like a sexual right it's a enforcement mechanism for
00:52:02Intra-sexual competition among women
00:52:06And so it works didn't you have a lady on recently had a discussion about malicious nature within females a full two hours of it
00:52:13Yeah, Danny Solikowski. She's a beast but
00:52:15The fact that the internet hasn't got angry at that episode
00:52:20Just shows how much female privilege there is. Well, she can say all of that
00:52:24Everyone goes there and finds all of the problems with it. Yeah, it was a
00:52:28Fascinating do so and this is just a big promotion and masterclass on how to hang on to all your traumas and actually don't change
00:52:33No, stay avoided stay
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00:52:39It's very important you need to hang on to that thing that made you not have committed relationships so you don't die in a fire
00:52:45Yeah, of course naturally time has flown by
00:52:48During this podcast which brings me on to my point about time the king of transitions amazing Segway
00:52:55Bill Collins's grandson is on it, right?
00:52:58Stallone stepson, you're so perceptive of the environment. Are you anxious?
00:53:02Yeah, there needs to be an award for
00:53:05worst transition, um
00:53:07so there's a guy called Albert Hein in
00:53:10around about the 1880s and
00:53:13He is a geologist who's climbing
00:53:16Up a mountain and he falls 60 feet, right?
00:53:20So from the laws of physics a 60 feet fall is one two boom and you're dead
00:53:25So he but now he recalls what his experience was like a falling. So he falls and he immediately thinks is he's falling down
00:53:33he thinks should I take my glasses off or should I keep them on should I drop my cane or should I
00:53:39Basically cry for help because oh because I wonder what it's gonna be like when people realize that I'm on this trip with that
00:53:45I'm dead. Should I let them know like this is happening then he starts thinking about the lecture
00:53:50he's gonna give next week and how
00:53:52They're gonna all be there and go. Oh, he's dead. Then his entire life flashes before his eyes
00:53:58Two seconds and he can't what would be interesting about the story you'd immediately go. Well, this is quackery
00:54:04This is like him potentially making this thing up post hoc
00:54:06But he then spent his entire life like chatting to other people that have had this experience of falling off things from builders to different
00:54:13Climbers and lots of them mirror the exact same thing that just as you're about to die your dilation of time
00:54:19Slows down so much. It's one big thing. I've been writing about of late around
00:54:23How do we go about slowing down the speed of time or changing time? And if you could find it on my
00:54:31Twitter jarred if you search George Mac Janet's law about how time compresses with age and it's kind of this idea that you've experienced
00:54:39According to this theory, which I don't think is necessarily true
00:54:42But according to this area you've lived half of your wife by around about the age of 20 and experientially
00:54:48experientially
00:54:50Particularly because children the reason why time for slope so slow as a child is everything is new
00:54:54So that's one of the arguments of how you slow down time is for example, also been here time is slowed down
00:54:58To some extent because we've been doing something new or you're in a new environment
00:55:02But by the time you've been doing it 300 times things go so much faster
00:55:06but I'm interested if you guys actually thought through it like
00:55:08How as you get older do you go about slowing down time and not just waking up 85?
00:55:15Yeah, I have shit everything went what do you do? Well get back to talking in just one second
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00:56:45I mean this sounds incredibly rudimentary, and it's such a cliche take, but I think it's cliche because it's true
00:56:52Yeah, there's a reason that cliches exist is
00:56:54I think things feel slower when you make an intention to over romanticize them like how
00:57:00One of the things I heard a friend say is is how good can it get how good God can it get like the cup?
00:57:06Of coffee how damn good is this cup of coffee and it forces you into the present over something?
00:57:10Seemingly minuscule, but if that coffee was bad you notice it right because you want a decent cup of coffee
00:57:15And then if it's horrendous you get pissed off, so why not notice wow this is the perfect temperature
00:57:20It's just bitter enough
00:57:21But a little sweet and then you look up you go wow and the sun's out this morning
00:57:25and it feels warm and I find that when I bring perceptive or a
00:57:28Sensory experience into the present moment and just romanticize your life as the cliche would call
00:57:34Everything feels more novel yes, we were having cheeseburgers the other night
00:57:38I'm just like how fun is this you know you got we got to watch
00:57:41I got to watch my friend work out materially so excited about and now we're eating a damn good cheeseburger
00:57:46Yes, how good can it guess so so my that literally what I wrote about was three things so like the the original story
00:57:52That's part of it is it comes at it from a different angle, but it's essentially this boy called Henry
00:57:56Which I think I've told on the Christmas show, but just for people who haven't heard it before
00:58:01Henry is like five years old he's playing outside on the streets of Connecticut and a cyclist doesn't see him
00:58:06Clatters into Henry knocks him unconscious and his life becomes a bit strange
00:58:11He starts having seizures, but by the age of 27. He's having 20 seizures per day
00:58:14And he's desperate to fix. He's trying everything that he can and this is during like peak experimental brain surgery
00:58:21So he goes forward volunteers and wakes up
00:58:24And he basically gets delivered some good news some bad news some awful news by life
00:58:28So the good news is that the surgery's largely fixed his epilepsy the bad news is
00:58:32That he won't remember the good news because of the awful news and the awful news is that he's destroyed his ability to form new
00:58:37Memories so Henry lives from the age of 27 to 82 the same day
00:58:42I say because he only can remember things in two minutes increments, and then it disappears
00:58:45So he meets his psychiatrist for the first time every day
00:58:47but the most disturbing thing about Henry was he would look in the mirror each day and
00:58:52Be confused why the reflection looks so old
00:58:57Because he's just forgotten every always thought he was 27, but now I'm 65, but now I'm at 70 some long-term memories like
00:59:04Exactly before 27 so it basically begs the question you have like all the Brian Johnson's of the world
00:59:10Which I think are great like the longevity people
00:59:12But very few people talk about time longevity because in theory Henry lived a long life
00:59:15He lived till 82 or did he die at 27?
00:59:18And it's such an important part of memory and the three the three things that I concluded when I was looking at the research for it
00:59:23There's a great book called time expansion dilution, I believe
00:59:27That goes into this more in depth. But number one is novel experiences. So doing new things
00:59:35number two is
00:59:37around
00:59:38Both two and three are kind of what you said rolled into two different things. So two is like trying to create stories
00:59:45So what's interesting is you don't remember your social media feed from yesterday
00:59:48You can barely remember a tweet from yesterday despite the fact you scroll past so many novel things
00:59:52But you can remember a movie from two years ago because we like character arcs. We like purpose. We like emotion
01:00:00We like a build-up
01:00:01so thinking about your kind of day or life into a story like what would the hero do next and then the third one was
01:00:06Very closely tied to what you said to which is like this Japanese concept, which I'm gonna butcher but called like ichigo
01:00:13Itchy, which is essentially this idea that every moment even if it is a recurring moment because you don't be able to novel max every single
01:00:20day
01:00:20But even right now we're all this exact age that we are in the studio for the first time
01:00:26So whenever you look for the specific details exactly like you did there time itself does begin to slow down
01:00:32It's amazing. The novelty thing is such a huge part
01:00:35I mean I wrote about this seven years ago badly and then again 18 months ago slightly better and
01:00:40the two things novelty and intensity were what I sort of landed on and
01:00:46You're right. It is really really important and people don't want to miss their lives and objectively arrive
01:00:51But subjectively not feel it and this thing this sort of sense of stuff rushing past
01:00:55I think it's something that's particularly felt by people that are
01:00:58Optimizes because by virtue of optimizing you find what works and then you rinse and repeat it. That's what routine is
01:01:05The problem with that is it actually compresses time together. My best my favorite example of this is
01:01:11Your drive to work. Yeah, your drive to work is something that you've done 500 a thousand two thousand times throughout your life
01:01:18Throughout that one job that one office
01:01:20Can you tell me anything unique about that drive?
01:01:23It's compressed into basically a single memory except for that one day when it was icy and the car skidded backward
01:01:30Well, what's that? That's novelty and intensity. It's also called the holiday effect. Why is it the holidays seem to stretch out?
01:01:36I think about this trip. I took to Africa
01:01:39needed a decade ago with an ex-girlfriend and I can remember the squeak of the leather shoes of the porter and the
01:01:46Ornithology book this weathered ornithology book that he was carrying and the steps down the steps were rickety
01:01:53And he the bellboy offered to carry my bag, but I felt bad
01:01:56So I took I can't remember the fucking 16-digit number on the front of my credit card that I've had for fucking three years
01:02:02Why well because novelty and intensity and um, the more that I think people can just try and ratchet that
01:02:09into their lives right and it's strange because if you have too much novelty you end up with chaos and
01:02:13You don't actually gain any of the benefits of consistency and reliability
01:02:17Yeah, there's no compounding because the the environment changes so quickly that you can't get any in there, right?
01:02:22But yeah that you've hit on something I think super important
01:02:26Well, it's cool cuz like who lives it because I you know, I see all this advice, right?
01:02:30Whether it's on X or it's in podcasts and it's like, you know, here's a study or here's a here's a quote I love
01:02:37but
01:02:39It's like okay. What are you doing this? How are you? Are you doing that? What do you do?
01:02:43Like I like your burger example, and then if you could find somebody in your life that actually lives that way
01:02:47it's like a game show because super contagious once you just notice the Delta like if I sit next to you and
01:02:52I noticed that you sit differently or that you eat differently when we go in order
01:02:56It's very apparent to me when my peers do something different than me
01:03:00and so for me like my my trainer is a guy who basically is like
01:03:04Imagine never having listened to any of the podcasts and self-help at all, but you just did all those things
01:03:10That's basically him. These guys like I've seen him probably five days a week for the last five years
01:03:15And it shows and also he I've never seen him have a bad day like not even like in a bad mood
01:03:22I could be late he can get an offender bender never never seen this guy rocked
01:03:26And so that's kind of like seeing a billionaire but for mood. It's like what I don't know what that is, but that's incredible
01:03:32You have a lot of good mood. How do you do this shit and he tells me?
01:03:36Because I'm noticing like what does he do differently? He's always playing little mind games little minigames
01:03:41So I've told the story once before on our podcast
01:03:42But people have come up to me like years later mentioning like I love that story about your trainer and it's this DMV story
01:03:48I don't know if I never told you but he had to go to the DMV
01:03:51So he comes to my house and he's like he's like dude. He's like today's the day. I'm like, what's what's today?
01:03:56He goes I've been driving for the last two years with a expired license and it's been this low
01:04:01Underlying anxiety every time I drive of what if I get pulled over? I've got this expired license
01:04:06He's like I've just been avoiding going to the DMV because DMV is terrible here
01:04:09So today I did something different basically he went on Yelp and he went to go look where's the DMV and it you know
01:04:15It has like Google has like star ratings or Yelp has like ratings
01:04:18So DMV is basically like the lowest rated venue on Yelp. And so it was like one and a half stars and he goes
01:04:25How do I have a five star DMV experience?
01:04:28So he just asked himself a new question creates a game out of it. And so he's like, okay
01:04:32He's like I can't go there and expect them to give me five star hospitality
01:04:36He's like I'm gonna go as a five star customer
01:04:38So he just changes minds like I will go as a five star customer and I think I'll have a five star experience
01:04:43So he goes he parks he walks in with a little pep in his step. He holds the door
01:04:48He's not trying to rush in line. He's like you guys all go. Yeah. Yeah go
01:04:51I'll be behind you and one of the women that he let in actually she was working there
01:04:55She was just doing a shift change. He's joking around with her sort of flirting with her on the way in
01:04:59This sort of like big old lady at the DMV
01:05:01And so she's like, what are you here for honey? And he's like I gotta get my license
01:05:05I've been driving without it, you know expired for two years and like today's the day
01:05:08It's gonna be amazing when I get this license
01:05:10I'm gonna feel so good and she goes you know what come with me
01:05:12Takes him front of the line gets him the thing he's supposed to do a driving test
01:05:15She just signs off on it gets him his license
01:05:19He ends up having this five star experience at the DMV
01:05:22Which was kind of like running the four-minute mile or something
01:05:25It's like this like if you can have a great experience of the DMV you can have a great experience in any condition
01:05:30Right, like I don't need to achieve X to have great experience
01:05:33And so his five-star DMV has stuck with me because now you can play that game pretty much any I'm going through TSA right now
01:05:39How do I like how do I have five-star?
01:05:42what if I was James Bond and how I kind of smoothly went through this versus just
01:05:45Dragging ass like I normally do and I found that that's like novelty without being like today
01:05:51I need to go on this new hike new vacation news because that's hard to do and most people can't do it
01:05:55What I like is he brought the novelty into like the everyday and you become sort of invincible when you do that
01:06:02He romanticized his DMV experience, right? That's exactly what he did. It's different to you who tries to romance your DMV experience
01:06:09Yes, I hit on the lady who's giving me
01:06:16You know what that's a beautiful to make it practical that is a beautiful example of something you alluded to earlier
01:06:21Which I think some is a summation of what you so beautifully wrote about which is being childlike in the Bible
01:06:28God calls us multiple times to have childlike faith to be like children and everything that we do and somewhere along the way we grow
01:06:33up and we start taking everything so seriously and
01:06:36To say you said earlier you said, you know
01:06:38Just wait when you have a kid and everything's novel you can spin this and they're like, whoa
01:06:42Yeah, because everything is that was Disneyland right there exactly that that's like that's why I think it's so important in the Bible
01:06:48It's the ultimate self-help book. It's such good advice
01:06:50Just be childlike in everything that you do and that pulls you into the present moment
01:06:55Huberman did a minisode recently on the importance of play in
01:06:59Longevity and how as we get old we just stop playing and stop moving in that way and we die from that
01:07:06Yeah, and in my life lately, I've just been like the curious six-year-old inside of me again
01:07:10What did we do in the park the other day we played we threw the ball?
01:07:13We've walked past I know that you used to have a basketball in front of you on your plot
01:07:18We did a pod and he was just a mini bass mini leather always have this little ball
01:07:22He's just tossing it around so fun
01:07:23And we were walking through the park and some dog must have just left a relatively good condition tennis ball, right?
01:07:29Okay, we're turning around and spend 15 minutes just unloading on our rotator cuff. I'm still
01:07:41It was it was such a just little kid young boy moment because at the same time Chris and I are walking and we both see
01:07:47The ball and I've been down as I'm bending down Chris goes. Yep, and we didn't say anything
01:07:51Yep, and we immediately started playing toss. Yeah, I just burned 20 minutes. It was just so fun. I have this phrase
01:07:57Sorry, I had this phrase called
01:07:59dogs kids and dead people and
01:08:02What is that?
01:08:04It's basically that's why I want to spend time with and learn from because you want to learn about like unconditional love
01:08:09Be with a dog right a dog is like loyal. It's a great friend. It's a great pet, right?
01:08:13Then kids are just like childlike wonder about everything and the dead people is like rather than spending my time consuming
01:08:20Tweets and take talks that people put 20 seconds into it's like this guy put 20 years of his life into this book
01:08:26Like go go hang with the dead you'll you know, it'll be better for you
01:08:29And so just hanging changing who I hung with the kids dogs of dead people was like a pretty big game changer for you know
01:08:35Overall enjoyment. Who's your favorite dead person that you discovered?
01:08:39um
01:08:40Who's my favorite dead person discovered?
01:08:42Right now I'm hanging right now
01:08:46Like I told you I was reading this like stoicism book and so which is like whatever pretty cliche
01:08:50But there's a guy who wrote a book that basically
01:08:52Summarizes like here's what Aristotle was saying. Here's a Socrates is saying then this guy was all about suffering to prove himself
01:08:59So he kind of lived a pretty tough life
01:09:01This guy was doing this and they exiled him at this island
01:09:03It's basically like a walk through all the stoics and it's pretty good
01:09:06it's like it summarizes all of them and like the slight nuances of the different schools of thought that they had because they were basically all
01:09:12Influencers and so one guy had this school of thought he influenced
01:09:15He got all these people behind them and then this other guy branched out spun it off and was like yeah
01:09:19It's that but without the suffering it's way more fun over here
01:09:22And then they all got really popular and so on and so forth and so they're all dead now, but learning from there
01:09:28You know their philosophies obviously is so valuable a quick aside
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01:10:38Yeah, I we spoke about stoicism a few times where on some reverse reverse stoicism
01:10:44Yeah, where like so for example a lot of the time what I've noticed with people to get into stoicism
01:10:47They almost have like reverse stoicism. So when things go well
01:10:51They'll use the stoicism to keep it in and then when things go bad, they just lose the shit
01:10:56So it's like now you've like lost over all of the all of the downside and none of the upside. Yeah, correct, correct
01:11:01You've insulated yourself from getting too excited. Are you saying they're doing it wrong? Are you saying the philosophy?
01:11:05Yeah, I tells you to do that
01:11:07I think it's a little bit of both like my dad always gave me this great piece of advice
01:11:09which is whenever something goes well try and think how down you'd be if it didn't go well and at least
01:11:15Enjoy it that much
01:11:16So even if you are gonna have your downs at least have your ups and I guess my concern with stoicism at times
01:11:21It's a little bit. I don't know. It's a little bit dry or it's a it makes people a little bit more numb
01:11:26Which I don't particularly like there's a great speaking. I think he's dead now. He wrote this in the 50s. Have you heard of?
01:11:31masturbation
01:11:34Well, well not
01:11:36I'm assuming I say it a little differently as an Indian man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's when you're you watch a video of a mom with
01:11:42Bring in the mother
01:11:49So, um, basically it's it's a guy called Ellis and he had it's like rational emotive behavioral therapy
01:11:56So it's like it's like a spin-off of cognitive behavioral therapy and essentially his idea
01:12:00I think it's lovely is that he basically has like a very very small rule because everything's fair game
01:12:06Apart from you can never you use the word must to yourself or like this has to happen
01:12:11and what I've actually realized with a lot a lot of things of myself is you almost because
01:12:15You try so hard and you put so much pressure on yourself that you end up. There's two things
01:12:20there's either choking which is when you
01:12:22overthink when you think too much in the moment like an athlete that can't throw the basketball shot or there's um,
01:12:28What's the opposite of choking? It's um clutch like coming through in the clutch. No, there's um
01:12:34Panicking so panicking is when you don't think at all and you just do something reckless
01:12:39So like scuba divers that will just grab the oxygen when they know they shouldn't do it
01:12:43They can see themselves, but they do it overthink and under exactly. So, um
01:12:47Our EBT essentially this must abation idea
01:12:51He essentially has this concept which you can basically say anything about yourself desire anything but never say
01:12:57Oh this podcast has to go
01:12:59Well to it has to go well today or else
01:13:01Because as soon as you do that you activate the fight or fight response, right?
01:13:05And you know, it's like a lot of people that are type a people that probably listen to this sort of shit
01:13:09It's often like an extreme statement. So you can still say I really want this to go
01:13:15Well, it's not like stoicism where it's like whatever happens happens
01:13:17None of it matters because you kind of lose a little bit of the edge
01:13:20but you just I really want this to go well today and even if it doesn't I'll be okay and it's just that little bit at
01:13:26The edge that just gets it in that perfect like Goldilocks own between the two which I think some which I think's missed by stoicism
01:13:32It's almost it's almost a degree of surrender behind the intention
01:13:37Surrendering to the experience of being fully open to whatever comes up
01:13:40But hoping it goes a certain way my friend Nick comadina has this great quote
01:13:43We live in a universe that what we run from chases us and what we chase runs from us
01:13:48Yeah, so if you're constantly if we sit down like god, this has to be a banger
01:13:51It has to be a profound conversation. It would be the opposite of all of those things and Tom Cruise probably never would have walked in
01:13:57Yeah, but we just sat down here to shoot the shit. That's been a blast
01:14:00It's a degree of surrender with an intention or hope that it goes a certain way but also giving into the experience
01:14:05I did this emotions retreat with Joe Hudson in September and it was 12 hours a day for seven days and a flower farm in
01:14:12Santa Rosa of just very very deep very difficult emotional work and you had to write an intention
01:14:18before you went in and
01:14:20This intention would go on this huge piece of paper and we'd be writing loads of stuff and it was on the wall and everybody
01:14:25could see what it was that you'd written throughout the throughout the week and
01:14:28Some people's intentions were really big and really grand and I felt so my felt really stupid
01:14:33I was kind of ashamed of Mike's it felt so small and it felt so silly
01:14:36And by the end of the week, I just completely fallen in love with it
01:14:40It was my favorite definition of safety now with emotional safety of feeling like you're enough of feeling like you belong
01:14:46They're feeling like you're supposed to be there and it was I'm okay
01:14:50No matter what happens and that sense of this goes well, this goes badly the power goes out
01:14:55It doesn't Tom Cruise comes in Bonnie blue like whatever goes on. I'm okay
01:14:59No matter what happens and just that it's again that sort of sense of relaxing
01:15:04It's a little bit of Jana the meditation technique that me and George are playing with at the moment
01:15:07But on the the good luck bad luck thing
01:15:10I came across a quote that I'd already seen a bunch and I wrote about it this week
01:15:14Cormac McCarthy, you never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from
01:15:19Mmm, and there's this line
01:15:23I told this story to George this week and he was able to work out who it was, but it's fucking fantastic
01:15:28So in the mid 90s, there was a single mother living in near poverty in Edinburgh when she left her first marriage
01:15:34It wasn't a quiet parting. She's described the relationship as abusive
01:15:38She's fled to Portugal with her baby daughter and a suitcase that contained the early chapters of a book that she was working on at one
01:15:44Point her ex-husband hid the manuscript trying to prevent her from leaving with it. She was clinically depressed and contemplating suicide
01:15:50She couldn't afford to heat her flat properly
01:15:53So she pushed a pram to cafes to write while her daughter slept the manuscript was rejected by 12 publishers
01:15:59That's 12 people telling her in different ways that it wasn't good enough. The rejection wasn't abstract
01:16:04It was survival level if the book failed. So did her last attempt at building a life the humiliation of those refusals became momentum
01:16:11JK Rowling went on to sell 500 million copies in the Harry Potter series globally and became richer than the Queen
01:16:19You never know. What was lucky or bad luck has saved you from fucking money, dude
01:16:23That's why she has a great line where she goes
01:16:25Rock bottom is the most solid foundation to build from mmm Arthur Brooks has got this line where he says psychology is biology and
01:16:34basically you
01:16:36Can't try and trick what's your thing about? I'm trying to think your way out of overthinking is like trying to sniff your way out of
01:16:41cocaine addiction
01:16:48Have you guys seen the you probably all seen this you've seen the McDonald's CEO thing that's been going viral
01:16:53It's it's pretty have you been following this?
01:16:55so so the CEO of McDonald's tries to do a
01:17:00Promotional event for the new big arch which kind of worked because it went viral but not for the right reason
01:17:06So I don't you see let's check this out with you've heard about it. Here. It is the big arch first
01:17:12Oh, is this what you thought you'd look like tested all three in Portugal Germany, Canada. I love this product
01:17:19It is so good. We're gonna do a tasting right now, but I'm gonna eat this for my lunch. Just so you know, so
01:17:24Holy cow. God that is a big burger. We've got a very unique kind of sesame
01:17:32Poppy sort of bun on it. We've got two
01:17:37Quarter pound patties a delicious big art sauce and of course some lettuce
01:17:42So, oh, there's so much going on with this. First of all, let's try to get this thing
01:17:47Even though it's like me trying to unhook a bra for the first time
01:17:50If you had my narration
01:17:55Alright the moment of truth
01:17:58Barely gone. Yeah, that is so good. That's a big bite for a bit
01:18:05It's distinctively
01:18:07McDonald's only McDonald's could be this type of burger, but it also is unlike anything else on our menu. It's a delicious product
01:18:15You know, you've got sort of cheeses and the gooey this but those crispy onions as well gives a nice texture
01:18:20Of course, we've got the pickles. So
01:18:22I'm gonna enjoy the rest of my lunch, but big arch
01:18:26Trying when you can get it
01:18:28Sort of cheeses. It's a great way to describe whatever
01:18:31You know, he's basically like lying when he's like I'm gonna eat this later off-camera, but I'm definitely gonna eat this
01:18:38Yeah, totally. I want to be clear. I'm gonna finish this. I do this all the time
01:18:41That made me feel physically ill that made me feel physically uncomfortable to watch that
01:18:47It's like watching an Android try to be a human. It was very strange. How did that get out?
01:18:51Like from the lab like a lab leak what I mean like that wasn't him that wasn't him catching something
01:19:01Oh
01:19:03That's good Ben look at the tie length on Ben
01:19:09Show the length of the tie
01:19:15That's your Kenmore his son's tie. Do we all try the the big arch with a Donald CEO bite?
01:19:20Are you passing? Can you just reenact?
01:19:23Reenact the CEO. Yeah. Well, it's yeah. What was it like he was picking up an act first?
01:19:32Calls the red wire to the big arch enjoy the product Michael the product. This is a great product Wow. This is mechanically engineered
01:19:40It's so we all got big arches. It's so wet. It is unbelievable. All right, I'm gonna take a big bite for a big guy
01:19:47You know that scene in spongebob Scrabby patty crabby the tiniest little bit of
01:19:53Wow
01:19:57Mm-hmm. Oh, it's a medium rare. That's good. That's good. I want my McDonald's beef to be medium rare
01:20:03Did it maintain the perfect good product on this is it still maintain its perfect circular shape? That's a unique poppy see
01:20:09I've never seen a bun like that. He said we have sort of a sesame pot. What do you mean sort of sesame seed?
01:20:14I'm really fuck
01:20:15I love the way he used the word product that a good rule of thumb is no consumer uses the word product or consumer. Yeah
01:20:21I shall now consume products everybody
01:20:25Hello fellow kids. Would you like to consume product?
01:20:28It's good
01:20:31Yeah, how is it how is the bigger?
01:20:33That's what he should have done if he made me want to eat it. But luckily I already love a double quarter pounder
01:20:39So this is this is great. It's not that special. But yeah, basically the CEO decided that he was gonna fucking torpedo himself
01:20:46Yeah, it's so funny to think how did that get out as if as if that wasn't meant to be for public consumption
01:20:52Yes, well, I wonder if they it's be maybe a Machiavellian thing from the social media manager
01:20:56You think it's you think it's an accidental? Hi. I thought that was a promo everyone smart
01:21:01Jerry throw up the the meme I have on the dock of the McDonald's thing. It's so funny
01:21:06I like it when when Ben was looking for his McDonald's uniform. He went on Facebook marketplace
01:21:13This is the CEO of McDonald's right now
01:21:17Jesus fucking Christ the
01:21:22He goes on Facebook marketplace and he found somebody who has who was selling a uniform and she goes like oh, yeah
01:21:28Sure, like you need it for work and Ben was like, yeah, I need it for work. That's the actual uniform
01:21:32And then well the woman you were messaging was you're trying to get the uniform and then she looked him up and was like
01:21:38It doesn't look like you work at McDonald's
01:21:40She got creeped out and did not give him the McDonald's uniform. So he had to make his own you made that
01:21:48That's unbelievable. She ironed on the M. Did she make the tie too? Or did you get that a baby gap?
01:21:54It's a perfect length man, I think Ben's been in uniform waiting for the big arch moment with Tom Cruise wouldn't in the green room
01:22:04In Tom Cruise
01:22:09This is this is might be like the completely original scenario. This doesn't exist in any other timelines or realities
01:22:15Thousand a thousand universes. There's only one where Ben was dressed as a McDonald's guy next to a Tom Cruise impersonator
01:22:20Waiting to give us the food during the break. I said, oh, can I get a napkin Tom Cruise spilled new tonic on the table?
01:22:26That's never been said before the first of your bloodline to ever do that I
01:22:32Give that
01:22:35Out of ten on three. So you're reading ready?
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01:23:58Check out I think there's an upper bound for McDonald's
01:24:03Yeah, I think if it breaks a seven it's not coming from McDonald's
01:24:07Except for the filet-o-fish. I will die on that hill best sandwich in fast food
01:24:10What do you think they're trying to is this just every company CEO now needs to do self-branding
01:24:18Just build a personal. Yeah. Yeah, everybody needs to have a personal brand
01:24:22Yeah, I don't know. He's been basically only in front of shareholders
01:24:25You can tell and this was like this big coming-out party and only in front of reptilian people
01:24:32Freaking lizard man, dude, if I was ever on the fence about that conspiracy, he just proved it
01:24:37Yeah, but like if Zuck it took 20 years for Zuck to do this transformation, right? Do you remember when he was?
01:24:41Also, no, you're right. He literally had like a thing where you could find this where he was like, I was a human
01:24:49I'm human. I I am I am a human right? He literally was doing that the sweet baby rays
01:24:54Yep, and now he's just like swagged out and awesome and then based. Yeah, that's what happens
01:24:59You get four figure testosterone and everything goes well. All right. Um, how about I tell you about this?
01:25:03Have you heard of the be a mile the beer mile? Yes
01:25:06Last year. Yes, you want to be a mile beat Devin Levesque in the beer mile. I want to explain what it is
01:25:12So we guess it's yeah George. What is your guess? What is the beer mile?
01:25:16You drink beer and run during before
01:25:20directionally accurate
01:25:22during
01:25:23so the beer mile is
01:25:25I'm I wish I was being facetious when I said this I think it's more painful than any marathon or ultra
01:25:30I've run because it's such an acute pain for such a short time
01:25:33So the goal of the beer mile is simple you run one mile and every quarter mile you have a beer
01:25:40So over the course of one mile you drink four beers. So the gun goes off beer one
01:25:44Quarter lap beer to quarter lap three quarter lap four. There's a great photo. I wish I'd known you bringing it up of me
01:25:50We'll call it an action shot immediately after crossing the finish line on all fours. Just oh just exiting all of the beer that I had
01:25:58So that's the should we create the big arch mile. I would do that interesting that you talk about the beam
01:26:03I'll how about the two beers two cigs to Rubik's Cube speed run? Yeah
01:26:07Jared
01:26:12this is if you were to look at your
01:26:16Kind of elementary version of a physical challenge feels like it now, you know, let's he's got Ben's tie
01:26:22My time to beat is three minutes thirty three seconds
01:26:25I can't remember the war record, but it's around a minute thirty. You can see up here
01:26:30Well, I need that coming out of us, but I'm hoping for under two minutes. Also. The top camera is dead
01:26:36So hopefully this guy's just on his patio. Yes, and he's got the special
01:26:42I mean that first beer is what for gulps
01:26:46Nice, watch him rip this thing. Watch him rip this thing. It is absolutely absurd. How do you even speed smoke? I see that like that
01:26:55That's I think technically sprint smoking a thing
01:27:00It's a holy shit. It's working is you saying faulting that motherfucker. That's it is
01:27:05Unbelievable the hair the suit. It's really Scott Adams his talent stock in its purest form. Yeah
01:27:12bears interesting a unicycle is interesting, but a bear on a unicycle is fucking fascinating and
01:27:17Then you choose six. So there's got to be a strategy here, right? He starts off with the beer
01:27:22It's the Joey chestnut double dip. This makes I don't think you can do
01:27:26But look at his look at his Cuban. Oh, but see he's doing this
01:27:30He's gonna be dried up from the SIG. So he'll want beer after the second. I think that's the way it goes
01:27:35Yeah, I wish they had a shot of his dad crying inside watch
01:27:39Does he have like a warp on we need like a live tracker? What's his strain after this?
01:27:44This is he's on track for a world record here, right? And he's he must be thinking the prep
01:27:49Well, I guess you got a lot of nicotine in you but he needs to down the beer quickly
01:27:52This is a world record. This is the world. This is the new world record. Was he creating the world record?
01:27:59It was no way he was trying to beat it. It was a one thirty something. I
01:28:03Like your idea. We need to get this guy in touch with with some on it. Whoo. Yeah
01:28:08Hands down George. There's tens of them out there doing this one twenty eight three, dude
01:28:12Wow
01:28:16Imagine if you realize the camera wasn't rolling the pain. Who is this small Asian kid? He just showed
01:28:24That was the former champion we know well
01:28:31Jesus Christ, that was something
01:28:33Well, yeah, I mean that's what you've got to do next the to be as to six to Rubik's Cube speed run
01:28:38I did get challenged to do because I talked about the beer modeling content
01:28:42I got challenged to do the filet-o-fish mile because I'm convicted on the fact that I think the filet-o-fish is the ultimate fast-food sandwich
01:28:48Okay, and so I think what I'll do is I'll run a quarter mile and every quarter mile
01:28:52Swim to Alcatraz. Oh down a filet-o-fish swim down another filet-o-fish mentally. I'll already be an Alcatraz. Does it matter?
01:29:01That's what Ross Edgley is great at so Ross was the first guy to swim around the UK
01:29:05He did it in nine months something like that and he swam six hours on six hours off for nine months
01:29:11He was just by phasic sleeping six hours on six hours off and uh, I
01:29:16Had him on the show 18 months ago. That's trying to work out. Like what the fuck is it with this guy? He's jacked
01:29:22He's got this sort of never unhappy fucking mentality, which is kind of crazy
01:29:28but what is it really that causes him to be so good and I realize it's a fact his
01:29:33Digestion system like his capacity to digest food for instance. He swam the longest river in Canada
01:29:41I think he's done the longest river swim on
01:29:43Unbroken 50 hours that he swam for without touching land without stopping 50 hours of swimming. Yeah, it's a delirious
01:29:50He tried to do it in Italy and got high
01:29:53Thermia then tried to do it in
01:29:58America and got hypothermia and then tried to do it in Canada and did it
01:30:02He was so cold that the best way that he could heat his body was with piping hot porridge
01:30:06Like burning scalding hot porridge that he just ate and it warmed him from the inside like wearing a hot water bottle
01:30:13And uh, I realized he's a I don't know about you if I eat something
01:30:17I have to be upright if I try and lie down. It's so fucking uncomfortable. I want to burp. It's awful
01:30:23He's able to do it while swimming. Not only is he fucking horizontal motherfuckers swimming. So yeah, he's actively eating while striding in the water
01:30:31No, he'll stop and tread water and they'll throw like a banana on a bucket. No, you know just fucking force a banana down in poor
01:30:38Protein shakes and porridge and she's a video of this guy
01:30:42Like the entire coastline of Iceland or some shit the circumnavigated Iceland. Yeah ice swimming for this
01:30:49It's I mean, it's the the mad thing about it is he makes it look so effortless like lots of people that do crazy things
01:30:54Yeah, it's not that Rubik's Cube thing
01:30:57that is
01:30:59Hilarious, right watching Ross do it. It's just business as usual if you've done it twice a day
01:31:04For nine months just business as usual. He's a fucking freak. It's crazy. Whoa
01:31:09Well, you know the only thing I was gonna do we've had like a lot of America chat and not much British chat
01:31:16You two Yanks dominating things
01:31:19Yeah, we do. Let's go, baby. That's such a difference in reaction
01:31:22The European mind could never come
01:31:26We don't know either okay, we don't use it so I've got one of my favorite accounts called a mental UK headlines
01:31:34So it's just different like mental shit that's happening UK
01:31:37But it's like it's a specific type of mentalness that would only happen in the UK. So, um, I was thinking can you give me like the
01:31:42Gong, you know like the new station dong
01:31:48Grandfather banned from US holiday after accidentally taking terrorist box on visa form
01:31:53Rescuers learned that the exotic bird that they found was actually a seagull covered in curry
01:32:03Have you ever googled your birthday and Florida man? Oh
01:32:15Yeah, no fucking what's your birthday April 25th, April 25th, Florida man in Google, please
01:32:22How do you know that why do you know that it's not a Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster
01:32:29Wow, Oh 25th or 20th. I love it
01:32:32No, that's right. That's right. Oh, it's 20. It's not Hillers. No, I know. Okay good. There we go. Open that up
01:32:38Try to ride an inflatable balloon to the Bermuda Triangle. Nice hamster ball to the Bahamas Wow
01:32:45Florida man go back Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster. I'll see that's respectable ball to the Bahamas
01:32:51Ride a hamster was definitely exciting but in a different way. Yeah
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01:33:07Yeah, - Florida man arrested after dumping heaps of dirt on girlfriend's car heaps is an interesting word
01:33:15Ah
01:33:17How much is constitutes the arrest
01:33:19Heaps to my jail. There's a hilarious reddit post on angry girlfriends
01:33:24This girlfriend went and posted in the am I the asshole subreddit about her boyfriend
01:33:30Jersey if you could pull this up. It's uh
01:33:32Yeah, am I the asshole he's been rating every meal
01:33:36She cooked for him for like secretly for over a year and she got a claim
01:33:40She got a glimpse of the spreadsheet and took a secret photo and posted on reddit. Like am I overreacting basically to this spreadsheet?
01:33:47And so it'd be like, you know spaghetti and meatballs
01:33:517.7 and
01:33:53Yeah, this is the screenshot. So she took this man. Yeah, you got a zoom in that's where the magic is
01:33:58There's really two incredible things in this screenshot. The first is the rating system and the count so she's made spaghetti and meatballs
01:34:06182 times the rating is 7.7. The average rating 7.5
01:34:10So, you know, she did a little above average this time, but the trend three arrows up like the stock market
01:34:15Spaghetti and meatballs is doing well
01:34:17But then all the women in the comment section are just ripping them because he also got like AI open asking how to grow his calves
01:34:23All the women are like well tell that little bird calf bitch that he needs to do this
01:34:33This is to increase your calf size. You must combine training the targets both the gastroc and the soleus the deeper flatter muscle in daily life
01:34:39They're normally fatigue resistant specializing techniques
01:34:42Fucking hell. What was the what was the lowest rating average overall?
01:34:47Chicken tacos 6.9 chicken stir-fry six
01:34:51They are the average six and a half there. That's not good. That's a tough dish though
01:34:56It has to like work an audit at Ernst & Young or something. This is insane
01:35:00That's fucking fantastic. So glad you brought up Excel spreadsheets because I
01:35:04Found something on how dogs can't get pregnant because of underwear and I am terrified of this
01:35:11Have you guys ever given any attention to this the whole underwear thing cotton clothing and how it's a big part of the health and wellness
01:35:17World Austin Floyd's massive on it. He won't shut up about it. Okay, do you do do you pay attention bamboo cotton?
01:35:22I listen to him. I listen to stuff. Oh, this is microplastics. That's the issue or wells
01:35:27I think we're all effectively as we sit here nuking our nuts. That's what I've gathered from this study
01:35:32So a study on Twitter from from the never controversial account carnivore Aurelius
01:35:37Says ladies you need to be wearing cotton underwear now
01:35:40This is targeted at women, but there's evidence for males as well polyester underwear on dogs tanked their progesterone
01:35:4590% which earlier we called out the ethics of studies and how we can't do them anymore
01:35:50Do we draw the line at making dogs infertile through human underwear?
01:35:54Polyester underwear on dogs tanked progesterone 90% from 50 nanograms per milliliter to five and 75% of them
01:36:01Couldn't get pregnant
01:36:03Polyester creates an electrostatic field that disrupts hormone production
01:36:06100% cotton only if you want babies I
01:36:09Have never paid any attention to this now and I don't think I own a single pair of cotton underwear
01:36:14I thought this was fascinating. I'm doing the opposite. I'm gonna do this as a form of birth control
01:36:19I think I think I'm rather than a vasectomy. I'm just gonna start polyester
01:36:22I think I'm speedrunning infertility and I didn't even realize it from my underwear and not anything else in my lifestyle
01:36:28So maybe a good in St. George. What's your concern level?
01:36:31You constantly tell me about the sauna as well right the saunas. That's why we've got nutsicles in the freezer
01:36:36Yeah, you have nutsicles at the house nutsicles in the freezer. It's a Brian Johnson move right there
01:36:40Yeah, I've been doing it since that a branded thing or you know calling it that no no no nutsicles
01:36:45They are purpose-built search. Just Google nutsicles for me, please
01:36:50Nutsicles the drop shimmers are like popsicles, but nutsicles and yeah, they just Brian made this really great point
01:36:57which is my
01:36:59sperm count went up a lot by me going in the sauna like
01:37:02But it only happened when I iced my they were there on the top left. Look at those. So they're special pants
01:37:08I don't wear the pants because the pants are polyester, but I do just use the irony of that. I know
01:37:12But I just pop those on the outside
01:37:16Oh, I don't want to see the fucking person don't show me the demo. Oh
01:37:20Okay
01:37:22Is he drinking a beer?
01:37:24It's supposed to be for vasectomy recovery or something bring him through. Yeah
01:37:29Honestly if Ben comes in with a fucking hair of nutsicles
01:37:37I think we found a hook for the show everything bring him through the viral person shows up
01:37:44Yeah, basically Brian couldn't work out whether or not his sperm count went up because sauna is great for his body or
01:37:51Because he was icing his balls for 40 minutes a day
01:37:54So it might actually have just been the fact that he was putting them in a really cool
01:37:59Environment that was helping to foster fucking. Well, that's why they're in the sack in the first place, right? Right. I have like we've taken them
01:38:07You take some of this come out of the fucking freezer. Like this is a little bit
01:38:10I have a friend who does the face plunge you mentioned earlier to change his physiology to his nuts every single morning
01:38:15Oh like the nut dunk. Wait, why didn't you say this when I mentioned the face? Well, we had you held a secret
01:38:20Talking about panic attacks. It's yeah, I wouldn't have thought ah testicles. Yes. He every morning for many years now
01:38:27He has dunked his nuts in a and I was like, but how do you I didn't ask for the demo
01:38:33but he literally just
01:38:35Sits down into an ice bowl every morning for about two minutes and he said he's noticed difference in
01:38:40the way it hangs if you will and
01:38:42His sperm count also went up and his member appears healthier and fuller now. Mmm pretty interesting stuff
01:38:49So honestly, I mean between that and sunning the fucking butthole
01:38:53I guess it's you can go from one to the other you could that's basically contrast therapy, but just for your fucking groin a
01:38:59Yeah boys, I appreciate you being here first one in the new studio some technical issues and all the rest of it
01:39:06I hope everyone enjoyed Tom Cruise and
01:39:08Everything else. I'm really excited. Thank you for being this feels like a
01:39:11like a real special moment to be able to do this for the first one, so
01:39:15Go to McDonald's get yourself a big arch. I know we'll see you next time
01:39:19Right. Oh, yes. We did it amazing. It's fucking go. All right dinner late for dinner dinner