00:00:00And I want to try one more thing with you.
00:00:01- Okay.
00:00:02- I'll leave you on a high note.
00:00:03- All right.
00:00:04- I walked in here, beautiful studio.
00:00:06- Thanks.
00:00:07- We shook hands.
00:00:07You hit me up with some delicious drinks, by the way.
00:00:09- That's good.
00:00:10- And I said to you that the same way,
00:00:12I asked you how many podcasts, I want to go through this.
00:00:15How many episodes have you had in this podcast?
00:00:17- 1,100.
00:00:18- So 1,100 moments that hopefully
00:00:20have given people modern wisdom.
00:00:22That was the name of it, right?
00:00:24Successful, interesting people,
00:00:26find out what makes them tick.
00:00:27All of that sum total has gotten you to be here
00:00:31from February 23rd, 1988 to today.
00:00:34So I want you to close your eyes, okay?
00:00:37And I want you to imagine
00:00:39that you could hop into a time machine,
00:00:42but the time machine is to go through your own life
00:00:44as if you could rewind the same way people say
00:00:46in their last moments, they get to see their life.
00:00:48And if I were to say to you to zip back in time
00:00:51and look into the face of someone who for whatever reason,
00:00:57and this is only in the eye of the beholder,
00:00:59impacted you in some way.
00:01:01This could be great, this could be small,
00:01:02this could be recent, this could be years ago.
00:01:05I prefer, I would say not this year because it's too poignant.
00:01:08There's a recency bias.
00:01:09If you just pick a recent guest and you say,
00:01:11"Oh, I spoke to Sam Harris or Tristan Harris."
00:01:14No good, I don't like that.
00:01:15I want you, this is more of a right brain exercise at first
00:01:20to see if you can visualize that person's face.
00:01:22Can you see?
00:01:23- You want someone from the show?
00:01:24- No, no, I'm so sorry.
00:01:25I had nothing to do with the show.
00:01:26That's not the way, no, I want to make sure.
00:01:28It's someone that had an impact on you
00:01:30that I don't know why, what, or how.
00:01:33Open your eyes.
00:01:34Now, when I did this, right?
00:01:40And I had you think of someone's name
00:01:42and now I had you think of their face.
00:01:44Someone popped in your head initially, I know.
00:01:49And you go, "Mm, I don't know whether you said to yourself
00:01:51"that's too obvious of a choice or I don't know what."
00:01:53But always you think of someone
00:01:55and there's a hesitation.
00:01:56And you go, "Should I do that person?"
00:01:58Just that, "Should I?"
00:01:59And then you switched.
00:02:01I believe, this is very funny because I can't explain why,
00:02:04but it's the difference in body language.
00:02:06I think you switched genders.
00:02:07I think you started with a female
00:02:09and went to a guy, am I correct?
00:02:11- Yes. - Oh, I could tell.
00:02:12I could tell because if it was two women or two guys,
00:02:14the reactions are similar.
00:02:16You asked me about lie detection.
00:02:17I can tell when things are different
00:02:20rather than knowing if they're true or false,
00:02:21but true and false are different.
00:02:22All right, let's try this, the female.
00:02:26The female.
00:02:27I'm gonna get something, you know what,
00:02:28I'm gonna get severe right on.
00:02:29Think back in time and I'm gonna put you on the spot here.
00:02:37Rewind, rewind to, I don't know when this was.
00:02:40So if you were to put a timestamp, if we had a pin.
00:02:43Now, if I asked you an anniversary,
00:02:45you'd know the day, month, and year.
00:02:47If it's more wishy-washy, like I played cricket
00:02:50and it was like a few years.
00:02:52Is this a month, day, and year?
00:02:54A year, a month, and year?
00:02:56Like give me some sort of categorization.
00:02:58- With the female?
00:03:00- Whatever it was, yeah, I don't.
00:03:01- Yeah, with the first person.
00:03:03It would be a year.
00:03:04- A year. - Yeah.
00:03:05- So one's a year.
00:03:06The fact that you even said that means with the female
00:03:09means that it's different with the male.
00:03:10With the male, what would it have been?
00:03:12- Month and year. - Month and year.
00:03:13That's more details, let's go with that.
00:03:15- Yep. - That sounds fun.
00:03:16Think back in time.
00:03:18So it's 2026, I know you're born in '88.
00:03:20So we'll go back from the time machine 40.
00:03:22You probably don't remember the first 10 years of your life
00:03:24as vividly, maybe you do.
00:03:26So 90s, the aughts or the zeros, we don't have to call them.
00:03:29The teens, you laughed, it's in the aughts.
00:03:31Come on, that was too easy.
00:03:32Think odd or even, odd or even, odd or even, odd or even.
00:03:36Now you get confused if it was 2000 or 2010
00:03:39'cause you don't know if zero's even or odd.
00:03:41So I'm like torn.
00:03:42I think it was an odd number.
00:03:43Was it an odd number? - Yeah.
00:03:44- Yeah, 2007, wasn't it?
00:03:47Am I right? - Yeah.
00:03:48- I wanna make sure that the person watching this now
00:03:51who's skeptical, who says, "Oh, he must have researched this."
00:03:55Now here's what I would say to that.
00:03:56If I had asked you to think of your third grade teacher,
00:04:01then maybe I could have found out
00:04:02your third grade teacher in advance, right?
00:04:04Let's be skeptical.
00:04:05But I wanna make sure you understand,
00:04:06there's no way to research real-time thoughts
00:04:09because you could have thought of anything.
00:04:11I didn't tell you.
00:04:12You completely decided where you would go.
00:04:14Are we in agreement? - Yeah.
00:04:15- And you even changed your mind.
00:04:17I didn't tell you, you changed your mind.
00:04:18Think beginning, middle, end.
00:04:20I'm gonna go, you can't see the camera behind me, right?
00:04:23Let me ask you a question.
00:04:29Why do you know the month?
00:04:30Why do you know the month?
00:04:31- Because when I met this person,
00:04:35I remember where I'd moved into.
00:04:37- Yes, that's why I thought, that's why I went with this
00:04:39because I thought it was something to do.
00:04:41Okay, what month was it?
00:04:42- September. - September's what I thought.
00:04:43That's exactly right.
00:04:44It was in the fall.
00:04:48Fuck, the woman strikes me as somebody
00:04:53where could you have done your mother?
00:04:54Of course, but that's too impactful.
00:04:56Versus, I think it was a teacher.
00:05:00It's a teacher, am I right?
00:05:01And now when I said third grade teacher,
00:05:02you got kind of tense about it.
00:05:03I don't know which year it's for,
00:05:05but was this a favorite teacher or not so favorite?
00:05:10- Favorite. - Favorite.
00:05:14The guy that you're thinking of, think of his first name.
00:05:17Think of any letter in his first name, right?
00:05:20All of the alphabet, think of that one letter right now.
00:05:23You didn't do the first letter, did you?
00:05:24- No.
00:05:25- You were like, I don't wanna do that.
00:05:26That's gonna be a giveaway.
00:05:28And then most people will avoid vowels in names
00:05:32because they just think every name has a vowel.
00:05:34So I'm kind of limiting myself,
00:05:36but I don't know if you did that.
00:05:38I think you probably, did you think of a vowel?
00:05:39- Yeah. - Yeah.
00:05:40So you kind of knew that and you went against me.
00:05:43You think of the letter A?
00:05:44- Yes, fuck, I feel like.
00:05:49- Think of his last name.
00:05:50Are you thinking of it?
00:05:53- Mm-hmm.
00:05:53- There's some sort of, there's some sort of judgment here.
00:05:59The last name is, is it hyphenated?
00:06:05That's why, you thought of two different people.
00:06:07Oh my goodness.
00:06:08- It's hyphenated.
00:06:09- It's hyphenated, yeah, you're like,
00:06:10yeah, you didn't take the mom's, dad's name.
00:06:12You know, I'm gonna go with this.
00:06:13(laughing)
00:06:15I can't tell you anything.
00:06:19I might not have spelled this right there.
00:06:20Ask yourself this question.
00:06:22Tell your audience right now.
00:06:23Before I walked in this room, had we ever spoken?
00:06:25Had we ever set up?
00:06:27Is this, have you written this down
00:06:29on a piece of paper somewhere?
00:06:30Is this, in your phone, is there any way in the world
00:06:33I could have gone on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,
00:06:35and found this out, 1% or 0%?
00:06:38- 0%.
00:06:38- Who'd you think of?
00:06:42What's this guy's name?
00:06:43- Dave Gardner-Chan.
00:06:43- Dave Gardner-Chan.
00:06:45- Fuck you, dude.
00:06:46No!
00:06:47(laughing)
00:06:55You need to be locked up.
00:06:56Oh my God.
00:06:59- And then the best part, the best part is the alley-oop.
00:07:03It's right at the end, which is, come on over.
00:07:05I always like to do this.
00:07:06You changed your mind.
00:07:07That is the gold standard for this.
00:07:10The gold standard is you think of something,
00:07:11and at the last moment you go, I'm gonna change my mind.
00:07:13Right? Because that shows it's real.
00:07:15That's the moment.
00:07:16If you change your mind, shake my hand, go back in time.
00:07:18How old were you, this teacher?
00:07:19Give me a guess.
00:07:20How old were you roughly?
00:07:21Give me a guess.
00:07:22Mrs. Wilkinson, right?
00:07:23- Fuck you.
00:07:24- Wow.
00:07:25(laughing)
00:07:42(laughing)
00:07:44- I feel like, I feel like prey in water.
00:07:49I feel like prey in water and you're a shark.
00:07:53- I don't know if you knew this.
00:07:54I couldn't do any of this before I arrived here.
00:07:55It's just because I've been drinking Nutonic.
00:07:57That's the only way.
00:07:58- Bingo. I knew there was an ad read.
00:08:01That's the triple hitter.
00:08:02Forget guessing the names, dude.
00:08:03It's the fucking ad read at the end.
00:08:05Bro, you're amazing.
00:08:06This is, this is-
00:08:07- Appreciate you. Long time coming, my friend.
00:08:09I'm super psyched.
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