00:00:00So we have, basically, the most sexually permissive culture in history
00:00:04that is also having the least amount of sex.
00:00:06Yeah, which is wild.
00:00:08It's crazy when you think about, like, I was thinking about social media
00:00:12and even something as subtle as that. Like, everyone's on social media.
00:00:15But I do think even that is changing the way that people view potential partners,
00:00:19how they view their own partners.
00:00:21How so?
00:00:22A study that I cited in Sextinction showing that roughly 1 in 10 men
00:00:26actually loses interest in having sex with his own partner
00:00:28after looking at influencers.
00:00:30And that women also feel less sexually desirable after being on social media.
00:00:341 in 10 men lose interest for a brief window of time?
00:00:41They didn't specify.
00:00:43So they're less interested in having real sex with their partner
00:00:48when they've been looking at influencers on the internet.
00:00:52Yeah.
00:00:53So I do remember at uni, this is so fucking bad.
00:00:56That was an English study, too, actually.
00:00:58Good. Well, it was probably the people that I used to employ.
00:01:01It was probably the lads that used to work for me.
00:01:03I do remember there was two guys that were going to go on first dates
00:01:10with these two chicks two nights in a row.
00:01:13On the first one, he turned up, and he ended up going back with her and having sex.
00:01:18But he said she looked nothing like her Instagram. It was gutting.
00:01:22She was so hot on the Instagram, kind of like a catfish type thing.
00:01:25And he had this joke about he wondered if he could have just
00:01:28sellotaped her Instagram to her forehead, so he could have looked at that.
00:01:31And then the next night, the guy went out on one,
00:01:35and she was really lovely and great.
00:01:38And then I don't think they'd slept with each other that night.
00:01:41And he came back and looked at her Instagram and got turned off
00:01:44because she wasn't able to present herself in the marketplace.
00:01:48That's a good thing, no?
00:01:50I said that. That's what I said.
00:01:53I was like, "Dude, you found a barn find. That's a diamond in the rough.
00:01:56You found somebody that's really fantastic,
00:01:59shows up, wonderful in person, that the marketplace
00:02:03where most other people are going to be competing with you for her,
00:02:09she's just not present."
00:02:12I don't know what it was. I didn't do my research.
00:02:16So what is it he didn't like about the fact that,
00:02:18so he can't send people to her profile to look at her?
00:02:21No, I think that it wasn't even as deep as that.
00:02:25Sorry, it was significantly more deep than that.
00:02:27Not that he couldn't show off this girl
00:02:30that could potentially become his girlfriend
00:02:31or whatever to other people on Instagram.
00:02:34I think what I believed it to be was
00:02:38he was so conditioned to judging a woman's attractiveness
00:02:45through her social media profile,
00:02:47and especially given that it's the most extreme version of you.
00:02:50And for men too, the most extreme wealth or whatever,
00:02:56that he got the ick by her having a bad Instagram account.
00:03:03Ickstagram.
00:03:06I don't know.
00:03:09The club promotion industry is a weird and wonderful place,
00:03:12but I'll never forget it.
00:03:13Two nights in a row, one guy saying,
00:03:15"I wish I could have strapped her Instagram to her forehead."
00:03:17And the next night, the guy going,
00:03:18"She was amazing, but I went and looked at her social media profile
00:03:21after we'd been on the date, and it was a turn-off, dude.
00:03:24I got the ick because her Instagram wasn't hot."
00:03:26So he wants a hot Instagram lady who's just as hot in real life?
00:03:30Yes, I think so.
00:03:33Look, these guys were 19.
00:03:35They had no prefrontal cortex.
00:03:36I don't even think that that's that uncommon, though.
00:03:38I think that social media has done something like that
00:03:41more subtly, though, to the general population.
00:03:44You think?
00:03:45Why?
00:03:48Guys are less likely to want to have sex
00:03:49after they looked at influencers,
00:03:51and girls are less likely to feel attractive?
00:03:54Yeah.
00:03:55They feel less attractive.
00:03:56Okay, so it's a comparison game.
00:03:57Yeah.
00:03:58Right.
00:03:59Why?
00:04:00What do you think's going on?
00:04:01What's the mechanism?
00:04:02Well, I wrote a chapter about plastic surgery,
00:04:04and when you look at this trend of, especially really young,
00:04:07in some cases, girls getting procedures done,
00:04:10I do think social media has done something
00:04:12to make them feel that they need to do this to compete
00:04:15and to get a partner or to at least be found attractive,
00:04:18and there has to be something with just like
00:04:20constantly being inundated with these images on social media.
00:04:23They have found in, say, adolescent girls
00:04:25that girls who are less popular
00:04:27are girls who tend to do upward comparisons
00:04:29or tend to compare themselves to, say, more attractive women
00:04:32or more popular girls tend to fall prey to this a little bit more.
00:04:37In an attempt to try and clamber up
00:04:40this felt imbalance of a hierarchy that they're comparing themselves to.
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