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00:00:00Let me tell you a story about the worst phone call of all time.
00:00:04You have my interest.
00:00:05OK.
00:00:06So it's-- picture this.
00:00:09We're going to go back to 1970s Surrey in England.
00:00:13There's like a beautiful old farmhouse called Old Croft.
00:00:16And a musician has just moved in.
00:00:19And he's in a band.
00:00:21And they've just had their first top 40 song.
00:00:24So it's at that point of a musician's career
00:00:26where either this is like, we're about to take off,
00:00:29or we had that one blip on me there.
00:00:32And he's just mortgaged the most insane house
00:00:35for his wealth size, way above his income,
00:00:37because he's betting on his future success.
00:00:39And he's-- this is the childhood sweetheart dream.
00:00:41He met his wife when they were 11 years old in drama class.
00:00:44And they've got two kids together.
00:00:46So they've moved into this house together,
00:00:47this beautiful old farmhouse with their two kids.
00:00:51And he's managed to get the deal on it.
00:00:53So it's slightly cheaper than he can afford,
00:00:55but it's still way too expensive.
00:00:56But the whole thing needs a whole paint job.
00:00:58Like, the whole building needs a load of different work.
00:01:00Kind of like this stuff here, right?
00:01:03Shots fired.
00:01:04So he has to go on tour, go try and crack America to see
00:01:09if he can pay for this house.
00:01:10So he's kind of leaving the house.
00:01:12There's painters there that are doing everything up.
00:01:14And he's kind of saying goodbye to his family.
00:01:15And as he's saying goodbye, he doesn't
00:01:17know if this is going to be the last time he sees this house
00:01:22or if this is going to be the new family home.
00:01:24So he goes on tour for a year.
00:01:26And surprisingly, the tour goes really, really well.
00:01:29So he's basically going to pay for this mortgage.
00:01:32And at the end of the tour, he's having
00:01:33a phone call with his wife.
00:01:35And it's not going well.
00:01:36And she basically confesses, whilst he's been away,
00:01:39she's been having an affair.
00:01:42And his heart just drops.
00:01:44He's like, who?
00:01:45So he starts thinking of a singer or somebody else in the band.
00:01:48The guy she was having the affair with was the painter.
00:01:52He was paying for the house.
00:01:54So he just loses his mind.
00:01:55He ends up flying back from the tour, tries to win her back.
00:02:00Not only can he not win her back, she basically
00:02:03says, I'm taking the kids.
00:02:05And I'm leaving to Canada.
00:02:06So he sits down in the band.
00:02:07And he says, well, I think the band's over.
00:02:11I've got to go.
00:02:11He says, no remote work.
00:02:12I've got to go.
00:02:13I'm going to fly to Canada and try and put my marriage together.
00:02:15So the band say, hey, we'll just do a solo hiatus.
00:02:17We'll all go on solo.
00:02:18And we'll get back together.
00:02:19So he goes to Canada for three months,
00:02:22putting the marriage back together,
00:02:24flies back three months later.
00:02:26It's completely failed.
00:02:27And the only place he has to stay
00:02:28is he goes back to this old house.
00:02:31And he says, he walks in.
00:02:33And he says, the paint was still wet
00:02:34with the man who cuckolded me.
00:02:37So he can't-- so he's just fuming.
00:02:40So he leaves, goes to his favorite restaurant,
00:02:42orders a ravioli.
00:02:43And he's just staring at this ravioli.
00:02:45He's starving because he's not having days.
00:02:46And this ravioli's staring at him.
00:02:47He's staring back at the ravioli.
00:02:49He just can't eat.
00:02:50He goes back to the house.
00:02:51It's just this old derelict house that he's
00:02:53made all this money and paid for.
00:02:54But his family are no longer there.
00:02:57So he starts drinking.
00:02:58He's calling her.
00:02:58And she's ignoring his calls in Canada.
00:03:00Starts drinking.
00:03:01He's calling her.
00:03:02And finally, he goes, well, I've got
00:03:04to start channeling this thing.
00:03:05So he decides.
00:03:07He looks at the master bedroom that she
00:03:10slept with the guy who was on his payroll whilst he's on tour.
00:03:13And he goes, well, you know what?
00:03:15This is going to become my new music studio.
00:03:17So he starts channeling all the energy that's coming up.
00:03:21And as he's like in the moment, he
00:03:24gramps the invoice from the painting and decorating company
00:03:28that slept with his wife.
00:03:30And he writes a song on it.
00:03:31OK?
00:03:32So should I play?
00:03:32I've got it on my phone.
00:03:33I'll play the song.
00:03:34You ready?
00:03:35This is the song that he writes.
00:03:38[MUSIC PLAYING]
00:03:40You're shitting me.
00:03:50So that's how Phil Collins wrote "In the Air Tonight."
00:03:53It's on the invoice of the painter
00:03:55that slept with his wife.
00:03:56And what's interesting, what's funny about this--
00:03:58Did you know this story?
00:04:00What's funny about this story is--
00:04:04Nothing?
00:04:05Wallis--
00:04:05[LAUGHTER]
00:04:08Look.
00:04:11It's the saddest story ever.
00:04:12We got a banger out of it.
00:04:14But he-- well, anyway, so Wallis, he's
00:04:16in this house or in this new music studio that he's created.
00:04:19And he then is in a fugue state, writes "Against All Odds,"
00:04:22which goes on to win a Grammy.
00:04:23So he makes that song then, "Against All Odds,"
00:04:25the next day.
00:04:26What's interesting about the story, the funny part is,
00:04:29what he makes "Against All Odds" obviously
00:04:31becomes a smash hit on the radio.
00:04:33And there's a guy in Manchester who's
00:04:34listening to the song on loop because he split up
00:04:37with his partner five years ago, his girlfriend five years ago.
00:04:39So he's listening to this song, thinking about her.
00:04:41Sees her at a bus station.
00:04:44And they end up going out on a date,
00:04:46spend all night till 6 AM.
00:04:48They get back together.
00:04:49Within six months, we're engaged.
00:04:51They have three children, second child was me.
00:04:54So the whole--
00:04:54What?
00:04:55Whoa.
00:04:55So the whole thing--
00:04:56What?
00:04:57[LAUGHTER]
00:04:59He goes, yeah, yeah, with the toothpick?
00:05:03Yeah, yeah, the second child was me.
00:05:07Are you-- hold on a second.
00:05:08So when you-- so what's beautiful--
00:05:09That was involuntary.
00:05:10When you re-listen to that Phil Collins--
00:05:12Wait, are you Phil Collins' son?
00:05:13Yeah, what-- did you--
00:05:15No.
00:05:15No, no, no.
00:05:16Wait, I got lost there for a second.
00:05:17No, no, no.
00:05:17My dad-- my dad basically loved that song.
00:05:20When he split it with my mom, basically.
00:05:21OK.
00:05:22OK.
00:05:22[INTERPOSING VOICES]
00:05:23I was like, this is how I--
00:05:24That's what you get.
00:05:25No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:05:26Boom.
00:05:27Dad!
00:05:28You know which room that was?
00:05:29This room.
00:05:30[LAUGHTER]
00:05:32That's why--
00:05:32That room became a podcast studio.
00:05:34OK, still crazy.
00:05:35So yeah.
00:05:36Fucking inception.
00:05:36But what's crazy is when you re-listen to that--
00:05:38I think that song's incredible anyway.
00:05:39It still holds up 50, 60 years later.
00:05:41But when you now re-picture him in that old master bedroom,
00:05:45where it all happened.
00:05:46And the lyrics often, when you go back and listen to those--
00:05:47What does he say?
00:05:48Is he saying something that's like, direct or coded?
00:05:50Well, there's a part in there like, if you gave me--
00:05:52if you was drowning, I would not lend a hand.
00:05:55And it talks about you've been smiling,
00:05:57or wiped that grin off your face.
00:05:59Right.
00:06:00It's all about him falling--
00:06:01Doesn't sound like a breakup song on first listen.
00:06:04But it is.
00:06:05Yeah.
00:06:06Yeah, that's crazy.
00:06:07Dude, I fucking-- it's such a fantastic one.
00:06:10What was it that we found out the other day,
00:06:12that Dolly Parton wrote two of her fucking biggest--
00:06:19Google, what two songs did Dolly Parton--
00:06:22Jolene.
00:06:23Jolene.
00:06:24And fucking, like, working 9 to 5 or something in the same day.
00:06:32She wrote them in the same day.
00:06:33Fucking hell.
00:06:34That's crazy.
00:06:34Wow.
00:06:35There's a bunch of those examples of these bursts.
00:06:37These bursts where like, I think the Beatles famously
00:06:39did this, where they recorded like, a fucking album in a day.
00:06:42They did like-- they had like, this insane burst
00:06:45of their greatest hits in a very short--
00:06:46About five-- what was it, Jolene and I Will Always Love You.
00:06:50Wow.
00:06:51In the same day, she mentioned in interviews
00:06:53that she wrote them during the same songwriting session,
00:06:55and later joked, that was a good writing day.
00:06:58Wow.
00:06:59So nonchalant.
00:07:01I think Bobby Darien's Splish Splash
00:07:02was written in 20 minutes or something like that.
00:07:05Have you guys heard the full Rocky story,
00:07:08the Sylvester Stallone Rocky backstory?
00:07:09No.
00:07:10Oh, this is insane.
00:07:11You know this one.
00:07:12So Sylvester Stallone wants to be an actor.
00:07:15And you know, but he's got this like, birth defect.
00:07:18So when he was born, I think the doctors, they did something.
00:07:21That's why he has that crooked smile.
00:07:23So he had like, a medical, almost like malpractice issue
00:07:26when he was born that messed up his face.
00:07:27But he wants to be an actor.
00:07:29He talks kind of funny, faces kind of funny.
00:07:31So he's not getting any roles.
00:07:32Keeps going to casting auditions.
00:07:33No role, no role, no role.
00:07:35So he says, all right, if I can't get casted in somebody
00:07:38else's movie, I'll write my own.
00:07:39So he goes to his house.
00:07:41And again, like sort of in that fuge state,
00:07:42he basically does two things.
00:07:44He paints all the windows black.
00:07:46And he's like, I'm not leaving this house.
00:07:48I don't even want to know if it's night or day
00:07:50until I finish the script.
00:07:51He hates writing.
00:07:52So he's like, I just got to do this fast,
00:07:54because I hate writing.
00:07:55So in three days, he writes the script for Rocky.
00:07:58And he has-- and the story of Rocky,
00:07:59which is like, this average guy wants to be a boxer,
00:08:02but it's not really happening for him.
00:08:04It's a story of him wanting to be an actor.
00:08:05But he just shows boxing, because it's
00:08:07more like physical knockout punch.
00:08:09It's easier for the audience to understand.
00:08:11But it's his story.
00:08:12And so then he goes, and he pitches the script.
00:08:14And people are like, actually, the script is pretty good.
00:08:15He's like, awesome.
00:08:16And they're like, well, buy it.
00:08:17He's like, great.
00:08:18He's like, and I'm Rocky.
00:08:19And they're like, no, no, you're not Rocky.
00:08:20Well, buy the script, but you're not Rocky.
00:08:22And so he has an offer, I think for a million dollars
00:08:24or something like that, which at the time was a lot of money.
00:08:26And he turns it down.
00:08:29He ends up taking, I think, 25 grand or some ridiculously
00:08:34low amount of money for the script.
00:08:35But he gets to be Rocky.
00:08:37And he's struggling to make ends meet.
00:08:39He literally-- he's eating canned beans.
00:08:43He ends up selling his dog, because he can't feed his dog.
00:08:46So his dog was his only companion in the world.
00:08:48He goes, he sells it to a guy, and gets a couple hundred
00:08:52bucks for his dog.
00:08:54And then it's just like, fuck, he's just literally rock bottom.
00:08:57To film Rocky, he basically films the whole movie
00:08:59on like a million dollar budget, handheld camera, no permit,
00:09:02sneaking into things.
00:09:03They film Rocky that way.
00:09:04OK, Rocky becomes this huge hit.
00:09:06He basically gets this money, he goes, and he--
00:09:09first thing he does, he goes back and buys back his dog.
00:09:11The guy doesn't want to sell it to him.
00:09:12He's like, I love this dog.
00:09:14And he ends up paying 25 grand to get his dog back.
00:09:17And then that was basically the start of Sylvester Stallone's
00:09:19story, was this like three day bender
00:09:22he had to write the story of Rocky.
00:09:24How insane is that?
00:09:25Isn't the guy in the film as well, right?
00:09:26And that was part of the deal.
00:09:27It was like, I'll give you 25 grand,
00:09:29and you get to be a cameo in the movie.
00:09:31And he's in the movie Rocky.
00:09:32The guy, he's like, buy the liquor store,
00:09:34is the guy who sold this dog to you.
00:09:35I didn't know any of that.
00:09:36Holy fucking shit.
00:09:37I didn't know that Sylvester--
00:09:38Isn't it better than the actual story of Rocky?
00:09:39And that dog was George.
00:09:40[LAUGHTER]
00:09:44Sylvester Stallone is George's dad.
00:09:45[LAUGHTER]
00:09:48Oh, it does.
00:09:50You've got the nose for it.
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Key Takeaway

Iconic cultural works like 'In the Air Tonight' and 'Rocky' emerged from intense, high-stakes personal crises where creators channeled raw emotion and financial desperation into rapid bursts of productivity.

Highlights

Phil Collins wrote the lyrics to "In the Air Tonight" on the back of a painting and decorating invoice from the man who had an affair with his wife.

Sylvester Stallone wrote the entire script for Rocky in just three days after painting his windows black to lose track of time.

Dolly Parton wrote two of her biggest hits, "Jolene" and "I Will Always Love You," during the same single songwriting session.

Stallone turned down a $1 million offer for his script to ensure he was cast as the lead, eventually accepting only $25,000 for the role.

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Timeline

The Origin of In the Air Tonight

  • Phil Collins mortgaged an expensive farmhouse in Surrey called Old Croft while betting on his band's future success.
  • While on a year-long tour to pay for the house, his wife confessed to an affair with the painter hired to renovate the building.
  • Collins converted the master bedroom where the affair occurred into a recording studio to channel his grief.

After a failed three-month attempt to reconcile in Canada, Collins returned to find the paint still wet from the man who had cuckolded him. He wrote the lyrics to 'In the Air Tonight' directly onto the painter's invoice. The song features aggressive lyrics like 'if you was drowning, I would not lend a hand' which refer directly to this betrayal.

Creative Bursts and Musical Success

  • Phil Collins wrote the Grammy-winning 'Against All Odds' the day after 'In the Air Tonight' in a similar fugue state.
  • Dolly Parton composed 'Jolene' and 'I Will Always Love You' within the same afternoon session.
  • Bobby Darin reportedly wrote the hit song 'Splish Splash' in approximately 20 minutes.

The success of 'Against All Odds' had a tangible impact on listeners, including a man in Manchester who used the song to reconnect with an ex-girlfriend, leading to a marriage and three children. These examples demonstrate how the most enduring art often comes from short, uninhibited bursts of creativity rather than prolonged labor. The Beatles also famously utilized this method by recording entire albums or multiple hits in singular, intense sessions.

The Making of Rocky and Sylvester Stallone

  • Sylvester Stallone wrote Rocky to create a role for himself because casting directors rejected him due to a birth defect that affected his speech and smile.
  • Stallone sold his dog for several hundred dollars because he could no longer afford to feed it during his period of financial ruin.
  • The production of Rocky utilized a $1 million budget, handheld cameras, and no filming permits to achieve its gritty aesthetic.

Stallone isolated himself by blacking out his windows to write the script in three days, viewing boxing as a metaphor for his struggle to become an actor. He refused a life-changing $1 million buyout for the script to ensure he remained the star, opting for a meager $25,000 payout instead. After the film became a massive hit, he spent $25,000 to buy back his dog from the person he sold it to and gave that person a cameo in the movie.

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