Modern Masculinity Looks Suspiciously Feminine

CChris Williamson
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00:00:00I was gonna ask whether or not you have an intention
00:00:02of maybe looking at the world of Luxmaxing in future.
00:00:06- Clericula, as they said, like after,
00:00:08'cause we finished filming our documentary,
00:00:11which by the way is on Netflix.
00:00:13I'm gonna do a brazen plug.
00:00:14That's off, I don't know if it's--
00:00:16- It'll be out, yes, it's out now, it's out now.
00:00:18It's out now.
00:00:19- And which is exciting 'cause I've made stuff
00:00:21mainly for the BBC and this is my first foray
00:00:25as a Netflix, as maker of a Netflix original.
00:00:28It's crazy to think how many like,
00:00:31well, I don't know how many people are gonna stream it,
00:00:33but it's available worldwide.
00:00:35But we filmed it until about late last year,
00:00:39like maybe August, September,
00:00:42having started earlier in the year, like January, February.
00:00:44And then in the following few months,
00:00:46I remember one of my kids came down and was like,
00:00:48dad, check this out.
00:00:49And it was some piece of Clericula content.
00:00:52And I did not think he was gonna blow up the way he did.
00:00:56I just thought, oh, well, he's kind of very good looking guy
00:01:00who he seemed, I don't know,
00:01:02like he was just doing what he was doing.
00:01:04But, and then Ed Matthews' comment was like,
00:01:06oh, he would have been in the documentary,
00:01:07but he spawned into the game too late.
00:01:10I just like the-- - It's true, it's true.
00:01:13- It's kind of true, it's kind of true.
00:01:14They're all avatars of some sort of social media game.
00:01:18- The Clericula thing is, I think, different.
00:01:21And the reason that I think that,
00:01:24and I actually think that we're seeing the,
00:01:26what could be if it takes hold,
00:01:28the beginning of sort of the new phase of the Manosphere.
00:01:33So I had this conception, I'll see if you agree with it,
00:01:37that the Manosphere kind of had three waves,
00:01:38kind of like feminism.
00:01:39So the first one was pickup artistry,
00:01:41and that was Neil Strauss in the game, it was Negging.
00:01:44And it was basically completely whitewashed
00:01:48when Me Too came along,
00:01:49because there was no way that this sort of brazen,
00:01:53we just want to have casual sex with women,
00:01:55use them and discard them thing,
00:01:57could have survived Harvey Weinstein.
00:01:59It just, it straight up couldn't have existed anymore.
00:02:02It was seen as too unsanitary.
00:02:04So then what comes out next is more Red Pill.
00:02:07And that's Alphas and Betas and Cucks and Soy Boys.
00:02:10And that's kind of the world that you inhabited.
00:02:14And then it seems to me that the next one
00:02:19that might be coming online
00:02:21is actually a disregarding of women.
00:02:24Like if you listen to what Clavicula talks about,
00:02:26he's not bothered about women.
00:02:28It's actually much closer to the Black Pill
00:02:31than it is to the Red Pill.
00:02:33It's not about, maybe to some degree,
00:02:35it's about gaining money,
00:02:36but I don't even hear that as a stated goal.
00:02:40It's literally about male-male intra-sexual competition.
00:02:44That's what mocking is, right?
00:02:45It's about I am the most formidable looking,
00:02:49even if I'm not the most formidable,
00:02:50I'm not seeing people talking about
00:02:52actually becoming fighters,
00:02:54actually becoming sort of hard men,
00:02:57but just looking like hard men.
00:02:59It's actually a really feminized way
00:03:00of becoming super masculine, right?
00:03:02It's using cosmetic surgery.
00:03:05It's using beautification and enhancement.
00:03:08It's using different clothing.
00:03:09It's spending a lot of time thinking about
00:03:11sort of the way that you look,
00:03:13not necessarily what you can do.
00:03:14So to focus on appearance rather than competence.
00:03:17And it's not in any way concerned with women,
00:03:21the approval of women.
00:03:22There is a world in which you could have said
00:03:26that the Red Pill was the romantic pill,
00:03:28because regardless of whether or not
00:03:29it was particularly typically romantic,
00:03:31it was still very much concerned with the approval of women,
00:03:34even if it was in their disregard,
00:03:36the relationship between women.
00:03:39And I don't think that we're seeing that.
00:03:41I don't think we're seeing that with women.
00:03:42- That's interesting.
00:03:42Yeah, it's reminding me a bit of mug towel,
00:03:44men going their own way.
00:03:46And which is, as you say, like the ultimate black pill,
00:03:49where you sort of think, you know what,
00:03:51women, I can't deal with them.
00:03:53You know what, I was also thinking about,
00:03:54because I think in addition to the message,
00:03:57you have to think about the means of delivery.
00:04:00And so much of this, as I said earlier,
00:04:02with like Iceberg Slim versus Andrew Tate,
00:04:05the message might be similar,
00:04:07but the means of delivery makes it something else.
00:04:10Like I think Andrew Tate in many respects
00:04:12was a side effect of kind of the TikTok algorithm.
00:04:15You mentioned PUA, the pickup artistry community
00:04:18were communicating largely through books and seminars.
00:04:21Like come to Las Vegas for a three-day immersive
00:04:24in how to pick up women.
00:04:25You think about the red pill,
00:04:26that was communicated in podcasts and YouTube.
00:04:30But whereas this new iteration
00:04:32is a live streaming phenomenon,
00:04:33and specifically Clavicula,
00:04:36he's not the first looks maxer at all,
00:04:38but he's the first looks maxer that live streams
00:04:41that I'm aware of.
00:04:44And in that live streaming environment,
00:04:46you're not really convey,
00:04:47it's not like a how to as such.
00:04:50It's a much more fluid experience
00:04:52of kind of forming an attachment to someone
00:04:55and seeing them exploring the world
00:04:56and getting into scrapes.
00:04:57So he sort of has the luxury of not really needing a message.
00:05:01His message seems to be,
00:05:02other than the fact that if you're really good looking,
00:05:06you can kind of hack the system, right?
00:05:08That's, there's not, you know,
00:05:10he seems politically ambiguous.
00:05:12He seems to say almost anything.
00:05:15I mean, he was hesitant with almost anything,
00:05:17but you know, his whole thing,
00:05:18like he supports Gavin Newsom over JD Vance
00:05:21because Newsom's better looking
00:05:22and Vance looks like a hobbit, right?
00:05:24- Subhuman.
00:05:25- And everyone, and all the red pill community.
00:05:27It was kind of a, you know, weird way,
00:05:29a genius move as a way of distinguishing himself
00:05:32from the red pill, right?
00:05:34He's like, I don't really care about, I'm so empty.
00:05:37I'm so utterly amoral
00:05:41that I'm gonna endorse the person who embodies
00:05:45a sort of a kind of California progressive mentality, right?
00:05:50And everyone's like, what the actual,
00:05:52like that was the most outrageous thing
00:05:54he could do at that point.
00:05:55You know what I mean? - Yeah, but he's better looking.
00:05:57- Yeah.
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Key Takeaway

Modern masculinity is shifting toward a 'feminized' focus on aesthetic perfection and male-to-male competition, moving away from seeking female validation or traditional competence.

Highlights

The evolution of the 'Manosphere' is categorized into three distinct waves: Pickup Artistry, the Red Pill, and the current 'Black Pill' or Looksmaxing phase.

Modern masculinity is increasingly focused on 'intra-sexual competition,' where men compete with other men for aesthetic dominance rather than focusing on women's approval.

The 'Looksmaxing' trend utilizes traditionally feminized methods such as cosmetic surgery, beautification, and fashion to project an image of a 'hard man.'

Social media delivery methods have shifted from books and seminars to podcasts, and finally to the current era of real-time live streaming represented by figures like Clavicula.

A shift from competence to appearance is noted, where 'hacking the system' through good looks is prioritized over developing actual skills or physical combat abilities.

New influencers like Clavicula maintain political ambiguity and amoral stances, prioritizing aesthetic appeal over traditional ideological or moral consistency.

Timeline

Introduction and the Rise of Clavicula

The speakers begin by discussing a recent Netflix documentary and the sudden rise of the social media personality known as Clavicula. They reflect on how Clavicula 'spawned into the game' just as their filming concluded, missing the chance to be featured in the project. The discussion highlights how influencers are now viewed as avatars within a larger social media game. The speaker admits they initially underestimated Clavicula's potential to explode in popularity. This section sets the stage for a deeper analysis of how social media creates new archetypes of masculinity.

The Three Waves of the Manosphere

The dialogue outlines a historical progression of male-centric online subcultures, starting with the first wave of pickup artistry and 'negging' popularized by Neil Strauss. This was followed by the Red Pill wave, which introduced terms like Alphas, Betas, and Soy Boys, focusing heavily on gender dynamics and the Me Too movement's impact. The third and current wave is identified as 'Looksmaxing' or a form of the Black Pill, where the focus shifts entirely to male-male intra-sexual competition. Interestingly, this new phase is described as 'feminized' because it prioritizes cosmetic enhancement, surgery, and appearance over actual competence or fighting ability. The speakers argue that while previous waves were still concerned with women’s approval, this new iteration is almost entirely indifferent to it.

Shifting Platforms and the Power of Live Streaming

The conversation shifts to how the medium of delivery defines the message, comparing the eras of books, podcasts, and TikTok. While the Red Pill community thrived on YouTube and podcasts, this new iteration of masculinity is characterized by live streaming. Clavicula is noted as the first 'looksmaxer' to successfully utilize live streaming to build a fluid, attachment-based connection with an audience. This format allows the influencer to exist without a rigid 'how-to' guide or a specific moral message. Instead, the focus is on the raw experience of a good-looking individual navigating the world and 'hacking the system' through their appearance. This section emphasizes that the algorithm and the platform are just as influential as the content itself.

Amoral Aesthetics and Political Ambiguity

The speakers analyze the political and moral vacuum that characterizes the new wave of influencers. They use Clavicula's preference for Gavin Newsom over JD Vance as a prime example, noting that the choice was based solely on Newsom being 'better looking' rather than policy. This amoral stance is described as a 'genius move' to distinguish himself from the traditional Red Pill community. By embracing a 'California progressive' aesthetic for superficial reasons, these influencers subvert the expectations of the typical right-leaning Manosphere. This highlights a shift toward a world where 'subhuman' appearance is the ultimate sin, regardless of ideology. It marks a transition from political conviction to a pure obsession with visual dominance.

Bio-Optimization and Conclusion

The final segment transitions into a discussion about physical optimization, specifically focusing on mitochondrial health and cellular renewal. The speaker shares personal experiences with supplements like Timeline, which are designed to improve energy levels as one ages. This mirrors the earlier themes of the video by focusing on 'hacking' biology and maintaining peak physical condition. The promotion emphasizes clinical trials and patents, appealing to a desire for scientific 'beautification' and longevity. The video concludes with a playful remark about the viewer's attention span in the age of TikTok. This wrap-up reinforces the overall theme of constant self-improvement through external and internal biological means.

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